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Joseph Prince Ministries [JP]

with comments by biblestudymanuals.net [BSM]

[JP] TRUE GRACE VS COUNTERFEIT GRACE

Grace is not a teaching or a Bible school subject. Grace is a Person, the beautiful Person of our Lord Jesus Christ.

[BSM]

Numerous ways including "unmerited favor" which is most applicable to the means by which one is saved unto eternal life, according to the Bible properly interpreted via the normative rules of reading: properly following the rules of reading that we all learned from grammar school on: the proper use of  language, context and logic . So grace can be a teaching and it can be a Bible school subject and it can be a subject in many other contexts in the Word and throughout the world.

On the other hand, I understand that you are presenting your point of view perhaps in a figurative manner revolving around Who you think Jesus Christ is - Who you make Him out to be - and your own concept of the word grace. But according to the dictionary which reflects how words are used and according to a proper reading of the bible, the word grace means "unmerited favor" such as expressed by Eph 2:8-9 quoted below. The word grace cannot be limited to the Person of Jesus Christ, nor can Jesus Christ be solely limited to being gracious or Grace as you put it. For He is God and Man and His actions include those which are characterized as being God, Man, just, judge, vengeful, sovereign, omnipotent, unfathomable, infinite, unlimited, love, omnipresent, the Way, the Truth, the Life, the Word, and grace as well, etc., etc. - all the attributes of God and how He - the infinite God, second Person of the Trinity operates.

Compare Ephesians 2:8-9 (NASB).
"For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;
9  not as a result of works, so that no one may boast."

Notice that it is by grace = "unmerited favor" by which one is saved unto eternal life which is not of one's doing, but it is a gift which signifies that one does NOTHING to receive it. Note that by definition expressing a moment of faith is not proactive / contributory toward the end of being saved unto eternal life, nor does one have to lead a life of supernatural events or victorious living for Christ in order to be or verified that one is saved unto eternal life. It is simply a moment of accepting as true all that has been done for you relative to having eternal life - in accordance with the proper rules of reading .

So I understand that you are Personifying the word grace as a Person: the Lord Jesus Christ which you must realize that He is not limited to being gracious - for He is God and Man. Nor can the word grace be limited to only Who Jesus Christ is. The dictionary includes the definition of grace to be "unmerited favor" which best fits the Bible when the context is about Salvation unto eternal life for example. So grace indeed is a teaching and should be a Bible school subject as well - in accordance with the normative rules of language, context and logic as the key description of how an individual is saved unto eternal life throughout the Bible, God's Word: grace = "unmerited favor."

[JP]

And because an encounter with Him is so glorious, so liberating, and so powerful in changing precious lives, the enemy has thrown up so many controversies and misconceptions around the gospel of grace. This has caused many to be afraid of grace and kept them away from precisely what they need to draw close to God and lead a victorious, God-glorifying life.

[BSM]

According to Scripture encounters with the Lord Jesus Christ may not always be glorious, liberating or powerful in changing precious lives to an individual - whether believers or not. There is NO guarantee that a believer will view his as you say it "encounter" with God, nor change his life in a godly way, nor experience victorious living even once. This is why the bible has the letters / epistles which instruct believers in how to act in godly ways. There are no guarantees that believers will be faithful at all as you seem to suggest. Just check Scripture - especially the letters / epistles. Most of the time, believers' encounters with Jesus written about in Scripture throughout the ages reveal that very few experience "glorious, liberating or powerful changes in their precious lives," while in their mortal bodies - even the disciples as they walked with Jesus. For no one can claim in their mortal lives to lead a victorious, God-glorifying life under their own auspices, NO ONE - not even a single born again believer - including the disciples and apostles! . It takes the grace of God to credit any mortal who has always been unfaithful to some extent all the time - even believers - with even a moment of blameless, glorious perfection . Even the apostle Paul spoke of constantly losing out to the sin nature within himself instead of following the inner man. Just read Ro 7:11ff and read it properly - the context is AFTER PAUL BECAME A BELIEVER, .

On the matter of what you have written: "the enemy has thrown up so many controversies and misconceptions around the gospel of grace" which word "enemy" the Bible defines as the Devil, but notably the idea of throwing up controversies and misconceptions also includes people when they do evil things, i.e., the world. You seem to be saying that the enemy is the sole source of the believer's failure to draw close to God and have glorifying moments in their lives. Now these are contributory but not the only source of these failures. The major source is the sin nature within each believer. I must also say that your unscriptural idea of what the gospel of grace is also contributes to the believer's failure to draw close to God and lead a victorious, God-glorifying life because it demands that the believer be close to God and have a victorious, God-glorifying life in order to prove out that that individual is truly saved. But there are no guarantees, yet without these things, one can still make it to heaven. According to Scripture the gospel of grace does not include drawing closer to God or experiencing a victorious, God-glorifying life. This may come in moments in the believer's life after one is saved unto eternal life, via the gospel of God in the Christian life. If having such encounters with Jesus and having a victorious, God-glorifying victorious life are required in order to be a Christian, then no one would be saved. We are saved by grace through faith and that salvation is not of ourselves, it is the gift of God, not as a result of works, (Eph 2:8-9).

JP stated "This has caused many to be afraid of grace and kept them away from precisely what they need to draw close to God and lead a victorious, God-glorifying life."

The phrase "afraid of grace" is not in Scripture and I cannot figure out what this means. Why would a believer be afraid of God's grace, His unmerited favor / blessings exercised toward him? Nevertheless, being afraid of grace - whatever you think that is supposed to mean - is not what keeps believers from drawing close to God and leading a victorious, God-glorifying life. It is the sin nature which remains within all individuals including believers during the temporal life which believers mistakenly continuouly follow which thwarts the believer from drawing close to God, and from leading a God-glorifying life - and that's scriptural. So because of the sin nature within, no believer will choose to live a temporal life that consistently draws him close to God, and consistently leads to a victorious, God-glorifying life under his own auspices with his sin nature still intact. That will happen in the next life when he receives his resurrection, glorified body without the sin nature. Although Christians are indeed equipped with the Holy Spirit within, when the believer follows the leading of the Holy Spirit albeit imperfectly, God graciously credits the believer with his imperfect righteous actions with His perfect Righteouness for which that believer receives an eternal reward for each time he does this. And when the believer confesses known sins, God graciously provides temporal forgiveness of that believer of those known sins and purifies him from all unrighteousness up to the moment of confession, i.e., he is viewed as blameless, i.e., without sin from that moment in his temporal life until he sins again. Note that this is not about eternal forgiveness which the believer received at the moment of faith alone in Christ alone forever. So he is restored to temporal fellowship with God when he confesses until he sins again which will be ongoing in his temporal life, (1 Jn 1:8, 10) at which time he is to confess and move on again under the grace and fellowship of God. This is based on His Son's propitiation for the sins of all mankind - a gracious act by God for all  mankind, (1 Jn 1:1-10, especially 1 Jn 1:7 ). That's the way the temporal life of the believer works.

Note that 1 Jn 1:1-10 is about believers' temporal lives. It is not about gnostics' or unbelievers' salvation as you contend later on in this article. For chapter one says that fellowship of believers ("my dear little children," 1 Jn 2:2) with God, not salvation is the purpose of this chapter and book :

(1 Jn 1:1-4) WHAT JOHN AND FELLOW APOSTLES HAVE SEEN AND HEARD THEY PROCLAIM ALSO TO JOHN'S READERS / AND ALL C HILDREN OF GOD, BORN OF GOD SO THAT THEY TOO MAY HAVE FELLOWSHIP WITH THE APOSTLES AND INDEED THE APOSTLES' FELLOWSHIP IS WITH THE FATHER AND WITH HIS SON JESUS CHRIST, WHICH FELLOWSHIP READERS / AND ALL CHILDREN OF GOD, BORN OF GOD MAY HAVE AS WELL - THIS IS THE STATED PURPOSE OF THE EPISTLE:

(1 Jn 1:1 YLT) "That which was from the beginning, that which we have heard, that which we have seen with our eyes, that which we did behold [in the sense of gazed intently upon], and our hands did handle, concerning the Word of ... Life - (1 Jn 1:2 NASB) and [indeed] the Life was manifested, and we have seen and testify and proclaim to you the Eternal Life, which was with the Father and was manifested to us - (1 Jn 1:3 NASB) "what we have seen and heard we proclaim to you *also, so that you too may have fellowship with us; and indeed our fellowship is with the Father, and with His Son Jesus Christ. (1 Jn 1:4 NASB) These things we write, so that our joy may be made complete."

Gnostics and unbelievers cannot have temporal fellowship with God until they believe in Christ for eternal life first . By the way, confession which is a work / an operative and contributive activity is not the same thing as believing which is not a work, but a mental assent / acceptance - not contributive. For expressing faith is non-contributory, and not proactive; it is a passive acceptiance of what Jesus Christ did for him on the cross. Furthermore Christ's work on the cross is complete and needs no contribution from an individual, nor some kind of action that is supposed to verify that they did believe in Jesus for salvation unto eternal life.

[JP] Yet, grace is not the dangerous doctrine—promoting the license to sin—that many have claimed it to be. And it is my prayer that this article will unveil to you what true grace is, and how the Person of Jesus and His grace IS the power of God unto your salvation in every area of life.

[BSM]

Since all sins have been paid for, for all of mankind - even the worst of us, (1 Jn 2:2) - past, present and future; a believer remains saved even if he continues in sin, (Ro 6:1). Relative to the forever possession of eternal life, sin is not the issue; and an individual who has trusted alone in Christ alone for payment for his sins is forever forgiven and forever saved unto eternal life, no matter what - because eternal life is eternal / forever once received. But there will be other consequences when he does sin / but not the loss of eternal life.  Click on the following to read about God's discipline of the believer who continues to sin .

[Compare 1 John 2:1-2 (NASB)]

1  My little children, [believers are in view] I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the Righteous;

2  and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world.

So no one is going to be held accountable for his sins relative to having eternal life - NO ONE. All of mankind's sins are paid for including the worst of humanity. Whether or not one is righteous enough to enter heaven, now that is the question. And all that takes is a moment of faith alone in Christ alone

Therefore Christians are afforded the latitude to sin without losing their possession of eternal life because all of their sins, even those yet to be committed in the future of their mortal lives have been paid for (1 Jn 2:2)!!!!!! And they have been personally forgiven of all sins past, present
and future at the point of faith alone in Christ alone; and they have eternal, forever possession of eternal life and many other blessings at their moment of faith alone in Christ alone .
Nevertheless, there will be consequences, even dire ones , if believers choose to sin in their temporal lives depending upon the severity of their sins. For all believers continually sin, (1 Jn 1:8, 10 ). But there will never be loss of salvation unto eternal life. On the other hand, believers when they sin disrupt their fellowship with God which may result in loss of temporal blessings; and discipline which may be quite substantial, even to the extent of sickness and pain, even premature physical death, as well as the devastating loss of eternal rewards when they do inevitably get to heaven and have to spend the rest of eternity in far more lowly positions and enjoyment capacity for the rest of eternity than what they could have enjoyed had they been more faithful, .

Nevertheless, as Joseph Prince stated, "the Person of Jesus and His grace IS the power of God unto your salvation in every area of life."

But Jesus Christ isn't the power of God, He is God - He Himself is omnipotent, and many, many other things . So Jesus, being God, is / has the power over your salvation which is solely by His grace through a moment of faith alone in Christ alone. BTW, the grace of Jesus is not the power of God unto your salvation. The word grace means "unmerited favor" relative to your salvation unto eternal life which salvation is provided for one as a free gift without having to do anything to merit / earn your salvation when you believe in Him providing it for you without doing anything to receive it.

[JP] BEWARE OF THE DANGERS OF COUNTERFEIT GRACE

[BSM]

I still do not know what counterfeit grace means. The phrase does not appear in the Bible????? And the explanation which follows does not make sense. Perhaps because you have not clearly explained yourself.

[JP]

We live in exciting times. Our Lord Jesus is truly restoring the gospel of grace that was first given to the Apostle Paul. Over the last decade, I have had the great privilege of reading a constant stream of praise reports and testimonies sent to our ministry office from precious people set free from all kinds of addictions, including smoking, drugs, alcohol, and especially pornography.

Beyond being unshackled from the heavy yoke of guilt and condemnation, real lives, real marriages, and real families are being transformed and these people are living for the glory of Jesus through the power of His amazing grace. Grace is not a movement, teaching, or subject to be studied. It is all about a person. His name is Jesus. What one believes about our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, and what He has done at the cross, makes all the difference.

[BSM]

There is nothing in Scripture that indicates that the gospel was ever in need of being restored. And in this time and age, how is the Lord Jesus truly restoring the gospel of grace? History does not show that the gospel was ever in need of being restored. Furthermore, a restoration of the gospel of grace would not be characterized by a constant stream of praise reports and testimonies about people set free from all kinds of addictions, including smoking, drugs, alcohol, and especially pornography, as you seem to indicate has been happening. But the gospel of grace is about how one receives eternal life, i.e., without having to merit it. This has not changed since Adam and Eve. Salvation unto eternal life - the gospel of grace - is not about what Christians do with their lives after they are saved by the gospel of grace. That comes after one is saved unto eternal life and is not part of the gospel of grace, but all about Christian living as especially delineated and stipulated in the epistles. Instructions about Christian behavior are given in the epistles once one becomes through that gospel of grace via a moment of faith and that salvation is not of yourself, it is a gift of God, not by works. This has always been the gospel of grace since Adam and Eve through Noah, Abraham, Israel, the church age without ever having been modified.

Nor is the gospel of grace to be characterized as "Beyond being unshackled from the heavy yoke of guilt and condemnation, real lives, real marriages, and real families are being transformed and these people are living for the glory of Jesus through the power of His amazing grace." This statement is not in Scripture and does not apply to the gospel of grace which is for salvation and not for Christian living. Other passages apply to the latter.

Romans 1:16 (NASB)
16  For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.

 Notice that the gospel is the power of God for salvation [unto eternal life] to everyone who believes... notice that it does not include "for victorious living to everyone who believes." That's another story. You cannot mix the two as if living victoriously is necessary to be saved unto eternal life or in order to verify that one is saved.

It makes little sense especially if it is happening on a large scale as you indicate with no evidence that it is connected with Christian living circumstances today. How is some new movement of Christianity unshackling a heavy yoke of guilt and condemnation, where real lives, real marriages, and real families - real as opposed to unreal ???? - are being  transformed and these people are living for the glory of Jesus through the power of His amazing grace???? The gospel of grace is not about Christian living, but about salvation unto eternal life. This is not to say that God operates graciously in believers in their Christian lives. But that is another thing.                        

Christian living is not the gospel of grace which the latter is the good news that a moment of faith alone in Christ alone provides eternal life; but about believers making progress with issuses in their daily lives, especially addictive behavior; and "being unshackled from guilt and condemnation, or issues with ones life, marriage, family and living for the glory of Jesus." The word gospel means here the good news about salvation unto eternal life not about how to overcome addictions in one's life, or anything to do with how a believer conducts his Christian life. That is another doctrine that depends upon the diligence of the believer, the leading of the Holy Spirit, and the grace of God. The word grace means unmerited favor; and the gospel of grace is the means by which one receives eternal life: by grace you have been saved through faith and that salvation is not of yourself, it is the gift of God, not by works, i.e., it is by unmerited favor, (Eph 2:8-9) - it is all of God. The message of the gospel of grace has not changed, nor been lost, nor needed restoration throughout the ages. So historically speaking the gospel of grace has never needed to be restored. It has always been presented accurately according to God's Word, albeit most of the time from the beginning the majority of messages on this issue are not in conformity with the gospel of grace. That's the way it has been from the beginning, even from the time of Adam and Eve.

On the other hand, after salvation, God's grace operates in the lives of believers as well but that is a different subject from the gospel of grace. The epistles are written to believers of this age in order for them to learn how to conduct their Christian lives so they can be blessed via the grace of God. For there are no guarantees that a believer's temporal life will be faithful, much less be victorious over sin.

[JP]

REIGNING OVER SIN THROUGH GRACE

[BSM]

This statement or something similar does not appear in Scripture. Christian's will not reign over sin in their temporal lives all the time, perhaps some of the time, but never perfectly - there is always the grace of God in this. They will however be blameless in their resurrection bodies in eternity, where there will be no sin. This is when there will be no sin. So the issue of reigning over sin in the believer in his resurrection body is nonsensical, he will be without sin. And there will there be no sin in eternity. So this phrase 'reigning over sin is nonsensical.' There will be no sin in eternity!!!! In their temporal lives however believers constantly fall short of the glory of God, His Righteousness moment to moment. Reigning over sin in the temporal life will not happen. Confession of sins is constantly needed and temporal forgiveness and purification is what is required and given by the grace of God, (1 Jn 1:1-10 ).

[JP]

To understand the grace of God, it is essential we understand the difference between the old covenant of law and the new covenant of grace.

[BSM]

The phrase "new covenant of grace" does not appear in Scripture. The old covenant is exclusively between God and Israel and so is the New covenant. The church benefits from the New Covenant with Israel but is not a party to the New Covenant . The life of the believer is best studied in the Epistles in the last 37 books of the Bible. Note that the words "New Testament" which refers to the last 37 books of the Bible is not in the original text and is not an accurate description of those books. The publishers added these titles - Old and New Testament - to their work. These are not part of the original text.


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(Jer 31:31 NASB) 'Behold, days are coming,' declares the LORD, 'when I will make a New Covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah, [crefs Jer 32:40; 33:14; Ezek 37:26] (Jer 31:32 NASB) not like the covenant which I made with their fathers in the day [of My taking] them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, although I was a husband to them,' declares the LORD. (Jer 31:33 NASB) But this [is] the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days,' [Jer 32:40] declares the LORD, 'I will put My law within them [in the sense of within their minds] and on their heart I will write it; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people [Jer 24:7; 30:22; 32:38]. (Jer 31:34 NASB) They will not teach again, each man his neighbor and each man his brother, saying, 'Know the LORD,' for they will all know Me [Isa 11:9; 54:13; Jer 24:7; Hab 2:14], from the least of them to the greatest of them,' declares the LORD, 'for I will forgive their iniquity [Jer 33:8; 50:20; Ezek 36:22-27 ], and their sin I will remember no more [Isa 43:25]."

[Believers in the Church Age and the New Covenant]:

2) [2 Cor 3:6]:

(2 Cor 3:6 NASB) "... [God] Who also made us [able] [= competent, empowered] as servants of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life."

Paul, his entourage, those believers of the Church in Corinth and all believers in Jesus Christ in the Church Age period by virture of the context of 2 Corinthians are declared to be able ["hikanōsen" = competent, empowered] servants of a New Covenant, i.e., the New Covenant of Jer 31:31-34 . The passage in 2 Corinthinians does not indicate that the "us" in v. 3:6 are parties to that New Covenant but "servants" of it - as a matter of fact they are not parties to it:

Since the New Covenant of Jer 31:31-34, et. al. is in view in the passage by virture of the comparisons of "a covenant" in v. 6 with the Old (Mosaic Law) Covenant, (v. 14); the comparison of the ministry of the Spirit and of righteousness with the ministry of death and letters engraved on stone referring to the Old Covenant, (vv. 6-18), and multiple other comparisons, (vv. 6-18);

and since Jer 31:31-34 and other passages clearly stipulate that the parties of the New Covenant are only God and all of a future generation of Israel restored to the Promised Land, ;

then the servants are not parties to the New Covenant of this passage - but they are competent, empowered servants of it.

On the other hand, one could simply be a competent, empowered servant / messenger to others of what the New Covenant is and what it does for mankind, as Moses and the prophets were, and not necessarily be a party to it. As a matter of fact, according to Scripture, the New Covenant will benefit all of mankind through faith in the One Who is the Personification of the fulfillment of the New Covenant exclusively with a future generation of Israel via His substitutionary atonement, Who is the Servant of the LORD, Jesus Christ; which sacrifice He made not only for a future generation of Israel; but, out of the grace of God, for all of the nations of the earth - throughout history, (Isa 52:1-53:12 ). So just as Moses, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Isaiah, Hosea, Amos, etc. were all fully competent, empowered by the Holy Spirit servants of the New Covenant by virtue of their writings and ministry to people of their generation and for all generations thereafter; yet none were a party to the New Covenant; so those of the Church Age, those in view in 2 Cor 3:6, are likewise competent and empowered servants of the New Covenant, but not a party to it. Yet all are beneficiaries of it through Christ by faith. Those benefits for each individual are in accordance with the stipulations in Scripture for his / her circumstances such as time period, whether Jew or Gentile, etc.

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[JP]

John 1:17 tells us, “For the Law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ."

The law was given through a servant; grace and truth came through the Son. The law talks about what man ought to be; grace reveals who God is. The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life (see 2 Cor. 3:6). Under the law, God demands righteousness from sinfully bankrupt man. But under grace, God provides righteousness as a gift. All who believe in Jesus and acknowledge Him as their Lord and Savior are under the new covenant of grace.

Yet, many believers today are still living in confusion. They get law and grace all mixed up by holding to some aspects of the law and some aspects of grace in their Christian walk. As such, they continue in defeat, rather than reign over the power of sin through the abundance of grace and the gift of righteousness.

[BSM]

So far in this study Joseph Prince has not provided sufficient information from God's Word to explain what the sentence, "The law was given through a servant; grace and truth came through the Son," signifies? For he says next, "The law talks about what man ought to be; grace reveals who God is," without going very far into what this passage says. There is far more to it than this!!!! And it has bearing on the grace gospel of eternal life.  

The only way to convey and verify what you are trying to say is to take a careful look at verses 16 and 17 keeping in mind the context of John chapter one that came before these verses. When you do you will find out how far off you are. There are no short cuts to God's Word:

[Jn 1:16]:

(Jn 1:16 YLT) "and out of His fullness did we all receive, [even] grace [in place of] grace"

(Jn 1:16) OUT OF THE FULLNESS OF THE WORD - FROM HIS FULLNESS OF THE GRACE AND TRUTH OF GOD - DID ALL MANKIND RECEIVE TIME AFTER TIME, LIKE THE WAVES OF THE OCEAN; NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH ARE THOSE GRACIOUS AND DAILY UNMERITED BLESSINGS WHICH SUSTAIN ONES TEMPORAL LIFE; AND THE EVER COMING MESSAGES OF THE TRUTH ABOUT THE AVAILABILITY THROUGH THE WORD, THE LIGHT OF MEN OF AN ETERNAL LIFE FAMILIAL RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD BY GRACE THROUGH A MOMENT OF FAITH ALONE IN HIS NAME ALONE

(Jn 1:1 YLT) "In [the] beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. (Jn 1:2 YLT) He [lit., This One] was in [the] beginning with God; (Jn 1:3 NAS) All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. (Jn 1:4 NAS) In Him was life, and the Life was the Light of men. (Jn 1:5 NKJV) And the Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it. (Jn 1:6 YLT) There came [into being, (cf. NASB)] a man - having been sent from God - whose name is John. (Jn 1:9 NIV) The true Light that gives light to every man was coming into the world. (Jn 1:10 YLT) in the world He was, and the world through Him was made, and the world did not know Him: (Jn 1:12 YLT) But as many [individuals of His own creation, (Jn 1:11a)] as did receive Him to them He gave authority to become sons [lit., children] of God - to those believing in His name: (Jn 1:14 NKJV) And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the [One and only from] the Father, full of grace and truth... (Jn 1:16 YLT) and out of His fullness did we all receive, [even] grace [in place of] grace" =

 (Jn 1:16 Greek) "Kai .ek tou plErOmatos autou hEmeis pantes .elabomen kai ............charin anti .......................charitos."

............................."And of .the fullness .......His ...we ........all ........received, .even ..........grace .upon [in place of] grace"

Jn 1:14 indicates that the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we - those who observed Him in His Perfect Humanity, beheld His glory as that Perfect Human, the glory as of the One and only from Father God, full of grace and truth. The word grace is defined as unmerited favor, or undeserved blessing. Grace is the principle upon which life from God comes - both temporal and eternal; and the Word is God Who gave life to all living beings, (Jn 1:1-4). Furthermore, there is nothing of merit that one has an opportunity to express in order to be born in temporal or eternal life. Grace therefore is the principle by which the Word created and sustains all things, and provides an eternal life familial relationship with God. Hence the Word, Who is Creator of all things, (Jn 1:3), is full of grace. He is the Life, (Jn 1:4), the source of eternal life; and the Light of men Who from the beginning of time and Creation has and continues to graciously illuminate the world as to Who God is, despite being rejected by men who deliberately have remained in darkness - alienated and at enmity with God, (Jn 1:4-6, 9-10). He has continuously declared to all mankind, who deserve nothing but condemnation, that He is, because He has made Himself to be, the sole Means by which an individual can be born of God as a child of God into an eternal life familial relationship with God by grace through a moment of faith alone in His name alone, (Jn 1:12-13). This is grand evidence that the Word was indeed full of grace.

From verses 1-3, it is evident that the Word is God and Creator Who has created all things which includes truth, hence the Word is full of truth. And from verses 1-13 it is evident that the Word Who is God is the Life, (eternal and temporal). He was from the beginning of time and Creation and continues to be the Light of men that gives light (the truth of God) to every man, (Jn 1:9); Who from the beginning of time and Creation has and continues to graciously illuminate the world as to the truth of Who God is, despite being rejected by men who deliberately have remained in darkness - alienated and at enmity with God, (Jn 1:5). He has continuously declared to men that He is, because He has made Himself to be, the sole Means by which an individual can be born of God as a child of God into an eternal life familial relationship with God by grace through a moment of faith alone in His name alone, (Jn 1:12-13).

So when it says in Jn 1:16, "And out of His fullness [the fullness of His grace and truth, (Jn 1:14)] did we all receive, [even] grace [in place of] grace" the statement is referring to the unmerited blessings that mankind receives time after time, like the waves of the ocean, from the fullness of the grace and truth of the Word; not the least of which are temporal life and that which sustains that life, and the truth that He has made Himself to be the sole Means by which an individual can be born of God as a child of God into an eternal life familial relationship with God by grace through a moment of faith alone in His name alone, (Jn 1:12-13).

A literal translation of the last phrase of verse 16, rendered "And out of His fullness did we all receive, [even] grace over-against grace," in the YLT should read: "[even] grace in place of grace" because the Greek word "kai" in this context is best rendered "even" as it describes the action in the previous phrase; and the Greek word transliterated "anti" is correctly rendered "in place of." Most translations including the NAS translate this as something on the order of "grace upon grace." The NIV renders this: "we have all received one blessing after another." The KJV renders the entire verse: "And of his fulness have all we received, [even] grace for grace." In the final analysis, author John is putting an emphasis on the concept of grace, [unmerited favor] as it is received by mankind: From the fullness of the Word continuously come the unmerited blessings from the grace of God to mankind like the waves of the ocean come one after another.

[Jn 1:17]:

(Jn 1:17) "For the Law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ'''

(Jn 1:17) OUT OF THE FULLNESS OF THE WORD DID ALL MANKIND RECEIVE, EVEN GRACE IN PLACE OF GRACE: THE LAW, A GRACE GIFT OF THE STATUTES OF GOD'S RIGHTEOUSNESS FOR TEMPORAL BLESSING THROUGH MOSES TO HIS PEOPLE AND INDIRECTLY TO ALL MANKIND, WAS REPLACED BY THE GRACE AND TRUTH OF GOD THROUGH JESUS CHRIST, THE WORD BECOME FLESH, TO FULLFILL THE LAW AND BY BEING A SACRIFICE FOR SINS, BECOME THE MEANS BY WHICH AN INDIVIDUAL COULD BE BORN OF GOD AS A CHILD OF GOD INTO AN ETERNAL LIFE FAMILIAL RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD BY GRACE ALONE THROUGH A MOMENT OF FAITH ALONE IN HIS NAME ALONE 

(Jn 1:4 NAS) "In Him was life, and the Life was the Light of men. (Jn 1:5 NKJV) And the Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it. (Jn 1:14 NKJV) And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the [One and only from] the Father, full of grace and truth..... (Jn 1:15 YLT) John [lit., witnesses] concerning Him, and [lit., cried out], saying, "This was He of Whom I said, 'He Who after me is coming, has come before me, for He was before me' (Jn 1:16 YLT) and out of His fullness did we all receive, [even] grace [in place of] grace: (Jn 1:17) For [because] the Law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ''' =

Verse 14 stipulates that the Word become flesh and made His dwelling among mankind. It goes on to say "we have seen His glory, as of the one and only Who came from the Father full of grace and truth." Hence what was seen by author John and others when the Word became flesh was a demonstration of God's fullness of grace and truth in His Perfect Humanity. So the phrase "full of grace and truth" describes the Word, named as Jesus Christ in verse 17. Verses 16-17 then stipulate "And of His fullness we have all received, [even] grace in place of grace. The Law was given through Moses, grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. The "grace and truth which came through Jesus Christ" thus replaced the previous act of grace providing the Law through Moses.

So in order to complete the thought of verse 16 which states, "and out of His fullness did we all receive, [even] grace in place of grace," Jn 1:17a goes on to say, "For [=because] the Law was given through Moses," evidently as a grace gift out of the fullness of the Word, (Jn 1:15, 16), which was followed by the next wave of God's grace which replaced the Law: the grace and truth of God which came through the Perfect Humanity of Jesus Christ, Who, by fulfilling the Law Himself and being a sacrifice for sins, became the means by which an individual could be born of God as a child of God into an eternal life familial relationship with God by grace alone through a moment of faith alone in His name alone, (Jn 1:17b).

The Law by definition is a set of statutes. It was given through Moses to his people and indirectly to all mankind, by the grace and truth of the Word - the Light of men Who has been shining the truth of God into the darkness of humanity from the beginning, (Jn 1:4-5). So the statutes of the Law were to be kept by the Israelites to receive the temporal blessings of God. Being God's standard of behavior, it represented the righteousness of God for Israel and indirectly all mankind to know and emulate; hence it was for all peoples of the world to follow the principles contained therein and be blessed, not the least of which is to express a moment of faith alone in His Son alone in order to receive the gift of His Perfect Righteousness to provide for them the gift of eternal life.

B) (Jn 1:17) FOR THE FIRST TIME, AUTHOR JOHN PROVIDES THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, (= MESSIAH / = HEBREW: HAMASHIOCH) TO IDENTIFY BUT NOT BE LIMITED IN SCOPE TO THE PERFECT HUMANITY OF THE WORD, THE LIFE, THE LIGHT OF MEN, THE SON OF GOD HAVING COME INTO THE WORLD; FOR THE WORD, JESUS CHRIST IS ETERNAL, HE WAS IN THE BEGINNING AND FOREVER WILL BE JESUS CHRIST

(Jn 1:14 NKJV) '''And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the [One and only from] the Father, full of grace and truth. (Jn 1:15 YLT) John [lit., witnesses] concerning Him, and [lit., cried out], saying, "This was He of Whom I said, 'He Who after me is coming, has come before me, for He was before me' (Jn 1:16 YLT) and out of His fullness did we all receive, [even] grace [in place of] grace: (Jn 1:17) For [because] the Law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ''' =

For the first time, author John provides the name of Jesus Christ, (= Messiah / = Hebrew: Hamashioch) to identify but not be limited in scope to the Perfect Humanity of the Word, the Life, the Light of men, the Son of God having come into the world; for the Word, Jesus Christ, is eternal, He was in the beginning and forever will be.

[JP]

All who believe in Jesus and acknowledge Him as their Lord and Savior are under the new covenant of grace.

[BSM]

This is not the means to have eternal life according to God's Word. No passage stipulates believing in Jesus AND acknowledging Him as their Lord and Savior together in order to have eternal life. For example, Jn 3:16 says "For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son [context: to pay for the sins of the whole world, i.e., all mankind who will ever live] that whoever believes - literally whoever is the believing one] in Him [paying for ones sins] should never perish [in hell] but have eternal life.

Notice no mention of "acknowledging Jesus as their Lord and Savior" which indicates human doing, i.e., works to do that including the proper / godly behavior to authenticate that that acknowledgment is true in ones life in order to acknowledge that.

This is adding to Scripture and cancels God's grace basis for receiving eternal life:

Romans 11:6 (NASB)
"But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works, otherwise grace is no longer grace."

Recall that salvation unto eternal life is as follows:

Ephesians 2:8-9 (NASB)
8  For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;
9  not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.

Furthermore, the phrase, "covenant of grace" is not anywhere in the Bible, nor does the phrase "the new covenant of Grace" to which you refer to later elsewhere in this article of yours appear in Scripture.

As I wrote above the phrase "new covenant of grace" does not appear in Scripture. The old covenant is exclusively between God and Israel and so is the New covenant. The church benefits from the New Covenant with Israel but is not a party to the New Covenant - see excerpt on this above or goto for the full study on the New Covenant. The life of the believer is best studied in the Epistles in the last 37 books of the Bible. Note that the words "New Testament" which refers to the last 37 books of the Bible is not in the original text and is not an accurate description of those books but was added by publishers of the Bible.

[JP]

The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life (see 2 Cor. 3:6). Under the law, God demands righteousness from sinfully bankrupt man. But under grace, God provides righteousness as a gift. All who believe in Jesus and acknowledge Him as their Lord and Savior are under the new covenant of grace.

[BSM]

On the matter of "The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life (see 2 Cor 3:6). Again JP does not do an adequate job in reading the Bible.

Here is an excerpt from the study of God's New Covenant with Israel relative to believers in the church age as mentioned in 2 Cor 3:6:

[2 Cor 3:6]:

(2 Cor 3:6 NASB) "... [God] Who also made us [able] [= competent, empowered] as servants of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life."

Paul, his entourage, those believers of the Church in Corinth and all believers in Jesus Christ in the Church Age period by virture of the context of 2 Corinthians are declared to be able ["hikanōsen" = competent, empowered] servants of a New Covenant, i.e., the New Covenant of Jer 31:31-34 . The passage in 2 Corinthinians does not indicate that the "us" in v. 3:6 are parties to that New Covenant but "servants" of it - as a matter of fact they are not parties to it:

Since the New Covenant of Jer 31:31-34, et. al. is in view in the passage by virture of the comparisons of "a covenant" in v. 6 with the Old (Mosaic Law) Covenant, (v. 14); the comparison of the ministry of the Spirit and of righteousness with the ministry of death and letters engraved on stone referring to the Old Covenant, (vv. 6-18), and multiple other comparisons, (vv. 6-18);

and since Jer 31:31-34 and other passages clearly stipulate that the parties of the New Covenant are only God and all of a future generation of Israel restored to the Promised Land;

then the servants are not parties to the New Covenant of this passage - but they are competent, empowered servants of it.

On the other hand, one could simply be a competent, empowered servant / messenger to others of what the New Covenant is and what it does for mankind, as Moses and the prophets were, and not necessarily be a party to it. As a matter of fact, according to Scripture, the New Covenant will benefit all of mankind through faith in the One Who is the Personification of the fulfillment of the New Covenant exclusively with a future generation of Israel via His substitutionary atonement, Who is the Servant of the LORD, Jesus Christ; which sacrifice He made not only for a future generation of Israel; but, out of the grace of God, for all of the nations of the earth - throughout history, (Isa 52:1-53:12 ). So just as Moses, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Isaiah, Hosea, Amos, etc. were all fully competent, empowered by the Holy Spirit servants of the New Covenant by virtue of their writings and ministry to people of their generation and for all generations thereafter; yet none were a party to the New Covenant; so those of the Church Age, those in view in 2 Cor 3:6, are likewise competent and empowered servants of the New Covenant, but not a party to it. Yet all are beneficiaries of it through Christ by faith. Those benefits for each individual are in accordance with the stipulations in Scripture for his / her circumstances such as time period, whether Jew or Gentile, etc.

[JP]

The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life (see 2 Cor. 3:6). Under the law, God demands righteousness from sinfully bankrupt man. But under grace, God provides righteousness as a gift. All who believe in Jesus and acknowledge Him as their Lord and Savior are under the new covenant of grace.

[BSM]

Let's investigate some more in order to provide a better understanding of 2 Cor 3:6:

This commentary comes from the Bible Knowledge Commentary, An Exposition of the Scriptures by Dallas Seminary Faculty:

3:4-6. Paul's confidence was founded not on human resources but on divine ones. He was confident in the Corinthians because the Holy Spirit had worked in them. Their faith rested on God's power (1 Cor. 2:1-5). Likewise his own sufficiency and competence in the ministry was derived wholly from God (cf. 1 Tim. 1:12).

Paul's emphasis on the New Covenant implies that his opponents were ministers of the Old Covenant. The Mosaic Covenant was a written revelation of the righteousness God asked of Israel (e.g., Ex. 19-23). It was accepted with an oath of obedience and a blood sacrifice (Ex. 24). When Israel proved unable and unwilling to remain faithful to that covenant, God graciously intervened and promised a New Covenant (Jer. 31:31-34; 32:40), new (kainēs) both in time and in quality. It was inaugurated by Christ in His sacrifice on the cross (Luke 22:20), and is entered into by faith (Phil. 3:9) and lived out in dependence on the Spirit (Rom. 7:6; 8:4). (However, the physical and national aspects of the New Covenant which pertain to Israel have not been appropriated to the church. Those are yet to be fulfilled in the Millennium. The church today shares in the soteriological aspects of that covenant, established by Christ's blood for all believers [cf. Heb. 8:7-13].)

Reliance on human rather than divine authority in letters of commendation was shortsighted and dangerous (2 Cor. 3:1-3). Even more so was the attempt to fulfill God's righteousness apart from divine enablement. Those who did so found that the letter kills (cf. Rom. 7:10-11). But those who trust in Christ find that the Spirit gives life (cf. Rom. 8:2).

[JP]

Yet, many believers today are still living in confusion. They get law and grace all mixed up by holding to some aspects of the law and some aspects of grace in their Christian walk. As such, they continue in defeat, rather than reign over the power of sin through the abundance of grace and the gift of righteousness.

[BSM]

The statement written by JP, "Yet, many believers today are still living in confusion. They get law and grace all mixed up by holding to some aspects of the law and some aspects of grace in their Christian walk" confuses the believer's real problem which is in overcoming his sin nature with mixing up law and grace. It is the sin nature that causes this action, not being confused by law and grace. You only have to study the epistles in the "New Testament" which lead to all parts of the Bible and with the leading of the Holy Spirit and circumstances that God graciously provides for you in your daily life you will be given proper directions moment to moment on how to lead a more faithful Christian life without having to measure your own life against the impossible standard of Joseph Prince: "draw close to God and lead a victorious, God-glorifying life." That's his standard by which you measure yourself, not God's. Let God do the measuring, you do the study, your own walking and confession and moving on all via the forgiving grace of God without Joseph Prince's measuring stick to tear you down in failure. We always fail, so confess and move on, (1 Jn 1:9). Actually law and grace work together within those epistles in directing the path of the believer one point at a time. Start with Ephesians perhaps at the beginning and just study it verse by verse by verse. When you find yourself becoming aware of your shortcomings confess them, (1 Jn 1:9) and move on until you finish that book and move on to say, Romans. Confess and move on moment by moment, letting the Holy Spirit direct you and not you direct you. Take detailed notes in a manner where you can add additional notes as the Holy Spirit leads you. Your study will bring to mind your progress. You won't have to make up your own epistle about law and grace, or follow someone else's point of view that does not measure up to God's Word. God has already prepared your lessons verse by verse by verse - all 66 books.

[JP]

Romans 5:17 tells us clearly that “those who receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness will reign in life.” When we reign in life, we reign over sin, addictions, and all forms of evil.

[BSM]

Nothing like taking a careful look at the passage in Romans 5:17 and you will discover how wrong Joseph Prince is. THERE IS NO REIGNING IN LIFE, REIGNING OVER SIN, ADDICTIONS, AND ALL FORMS OF EVIL IN VIEW IN THIS PASSAGE: 

1) BY THE ONE OFFENSE OF ADAM, DEATH REIGNED IN LIFE FOR ALL MANKIND, SO MUCH THE MORE, BY THE ONE RIGHTEOUS ACT OF JESUS CHRIST THE ABUNDANCE OF GOD'S GRACE AND THE ABUNDANCE OF THE GIFT OF A RIGHTEOUSNESS FROM GOD WILL REIGN IN LIFE FOR THE ONES RECEIVING THEM BY FAITH

(v. 3:21) But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. (v. 3:22) This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, (v. 3:23) for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, (v. 3:24) and are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. (v. 5:14 NAS) but the death did reign from Adam till Moses, even upon those not having sinned in the likeness of Adam's transgression, who is a type of Him Who is coming. (v. 5:15 ASV) But not as the trespass, so also is the free gift? For if by the trespass of the one the many died, much more did the grace of God, and the gift by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, abound unto the many. (v. 5:16 ASV) And not as through one that sinned, so is the gift? For the judgment came of one unto condemnation, but the free gift came of many trespasses unto justification. (v. 5:17 NAS) For if by the transgression of the one, death reigned through the one, much more those who receive the abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness [these abundances] will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ." =

- By the transgresion of the one man Adam, (v. 5:14), death reigned in life for all mankind, (v. 5:12, 15b)

so much the more

- By the redemptive act of the one Man Jesus Christ for all mankind an abundance of God's grace and an abundance of the gift of His righteousness reigns in temporal life for those that receive them by faith in Jesus Christ, (cf. Ro 3:21-24).

(v. 5:17b GREEK) " .hoi .ten .b .tes .....charitos .kai tes ......dOrEas
................................"*the .the .abundance .of the .grace ....and of the .gift

tes ....dikaiosunEs ...............lambanontEs ..........En .ZOe basileusin

of the righteousness [*the] .receiving [ones] .....in ...life ..will reign

dia ........tou henos Iesou Christou"

through the One ...Jesus Christ"

By the one offense of Adam, (5:14) death reigned in life for all mankind, (5:12).

By the one righteous act of Jesus Christ, (v. 5:18, the abundance of God's grace and the abundance of the gift of a righteousness from God will reign in life for the ones receiving them by faith, (3:21-24).

Much more than eternal and temporal death reigning in the lives of all mankind by the trespass of the one man Adam is the abundance of God's grace and the gift of His righteousness reigning in the temporal lives by those who receive it by a moment of faith alone in the one act of redemption for all mankind by the one Man Jesus Christ. It is not the believer who reigns here but the abundances of God's grace and His gift of righteousness that reigns in life the temporal life for the believer. This parallels the first part of the verse wherein death reigns in life for all mankind.

Notice that by the one offense of Adam, death reigned. Death is portrayed as having ruled from the time of Adam's offense over life for all mankind. In other words, every individual who was ever born as an ancestor of Adam - which is all mankind except Jesus Christ - is born spiritually dead and dies physically. This is contrasted with the one redemptive act of Jesus Christ whereby an abundance of God's grace and an abundance of the gift of a righteousness from God will reign in life, i.e., in the lives of the ones receiving such abundances by a moment of faith alone in Christ alone, (Ro 3:21-24).

Note that the verb, "basileusin" rendered "will reign" refers to the abundance of grace and the abundance of the gift of righteousness which will reign in life" for the ones receiving them. The phrase "En zoe" rendered "in life" is without the definite article "the," hence the quality of life for the believer relative to his temporal existence is in view.

The future tense in the phrase "will reign in life" in 5:17b is immediate future, (not eternity future), beginning the reign in life of these abundances for the individual at the point of that individual's becoming the receiving one of both abundances by a moment of faith alone in Christ alone. This must be so in order to be in parallel contrast to the immediate reign of death in the life of all mankind at the point of Adam's one offense.

Furthermore, verse 5:16 has already stipulated that the free gift of righteousness came of many trespasses unto justification unto eternal life.

The abundance of grace which begins to "reign in life" for the ones receiving it by faith, (cf. Ro 3:21-24), is the grace of God, His unmerited favor in life for the "receiving ones." i.e., believers. Evidently, God provides undeserved blessings to reign in life for the ones receiving them by a moment of faith alone in Christ alone so that their lives may be directed by God toward righteousness in their temporal experience. Note that this is in contrast to the rest of mankind - those who have not yet believed - for whom death reigns in life.

The abundance of the gift of righteousness which begins to "reign in life for the ones receiving it at the moment of faith alone in Christ alone, (cf. Ro 3:21-24), indicates that the believer's life is ruled by the righteousness of God. Relative to the abundance of the gift of righteousness reigning in the believer's life, it is not the believer's experience that is in view, as some maintain; for a believer to behave in an abundantly righteous manner would not qualify as a gift; rather the abundance of the gift of a righteousness from God would be an ongoing crediting to the believer of righteousness in lieu of the believer's lack of it in his experience. This comes as a result of God's reign of righteousness in life for the believer's life. The fact that it is a gift makes it clear that it is all part of the reign of the abundant grace of God in life for the believer.

Note that the word "ebasileusen" in 5:17a, rendered "reigned" in the phrase "death reigned in life" is not restricted by any modifying words or context; hence all mankind is in view. On the other hand, the phrase, "pollO mallon hoi tEn perisseian tEs charitos kain tEs dOreas tEs dikaiosunEs lambanontes." rendered in the ASV "much more that they that receive the abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life, through the One, even Jesus Christ" does restrict the population of mankind in view to all those "that receive the gift of righteousness", i.e., to we who have believed and been justified, (v. 5:1).

Notice that the restricted group of individuals who receive the gift of God's righteousness is nevertheless a part of all mankind over which sin and death reigns universally, (v.5:17a); yet all mankind has available to them the abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness in life through a moment of faith alone in Christ alone, (vv. 3:21-24).

[JP]

Thankfully, our Lord Jesus is restoring the purity of the gospel of grace today and many are finding freedom from long-term addictions and other bondages. They share with great joy how the Lord has supernaturally delivered them from decades of substance abuse and sexual addictions, frequent panic attacks, and even long-term clinical depression. Others write in, brimming with thanksgiving, because He has restored their marriages and their relationships with their estranged children, and healed their bodies when doctors had given them no hope. One common denominator took these precious people from defeat to victory, from breakdowns to breakthroughs: they all had an encounter with our Lord Jesus and caught a revelation of His amazing grace.

[BSM]

The purity of the gospel of salvation unto eternal life in God's Word has remained pure from Adam and Eve throughout the ages. I don't know what you mean by the "gospel of grace," and I don't think it's scriptural.

Consider what you wrote as follows "finding freedom from long-term addictions and other bondages. They share with great joy how the Lord has supernaturally delivered them from decades of substance abuse and sexual addictions, frequent panic attacks, and even long-term clinical depression. Others write in, brimming with thanksgiving, because He has restored their marriages and their relationships with their estranged children, and healed their bodies when doctors had given them no hope. One common denominator took these precious people from defeat to victory, from breakdowns to breakthroughs: they all had an encounter with our Lord Jesus and caught a revelation of His amazing grace."

All of this has to do with the temporal life not eternal life. The gospel - the good news about how to have eternal life as a free gift is about eternal life. The Christian life is not always about good news, sometimes it is not so good news depending upon circumstances in the Christian life. Ever consider that believers are appointed to suffer in their Christian lives? Is that to be considered something to look forward to - good news, or persevere through for the sake of maturing in the faith and eternal rewards in the afterlife??? Now that will be good news, but not now in this life. After one becomes a believer, then what you wrote about has to do with the Christian life, wherein the grace of God operates as directed to the believer in this age especially through the epistles, the leading of the Holy Spirit within and circumstances provided for the believer by God to respond to in order to mature in the faith and overcome life's difficulties. But it is not always good news to look forward to. Now if circumstances provide salvation / deliverance from difficulties, not that will be good news then for the moment until perhaps there will be other difficulties to persevere through - relying on God to get you through each difficult circumstance and even provide blessing, purification / credit for Righteousness and good circumstances by His grace adding to what the believer has faithfully done albeit imperfectly.

For there is another kind of salvation which is addressed in Scripture which has to do with the definition of salvation in the original Greek text of the word "sozo" which is defined in the dictionary as deliverance, as well as salvation meaning eternal life, and a number of meanings depending upon context. In the case of what you wrote the context of "sozo" that you offer includes temporal deliverance from things such as addictions, other bondages, substance abuse, sexual addiction, frequent panic attacks, long term clinical depression, restored marriages, estranged children, healing of the body especially where there is no hope. Note that Scripture indicates that these deliverances do not require some kind of encounter with our Lord Jesus or a revelation of His amazing grace as you maintain. Nor is everyone - believers and unbelievers - delivered from these things all the time or at all. Sometimes it is just something to persevere through. Consider the conditions that old age brings about which will stay with the believer until he goes home to be with the Lord. How many believers go through the aging process and are not delivered of the difficulties therein, but must persevere by the grace of God?

[JP]

DISTORTIONS TO THE RESTORATION OF GOD’S TRUTH

[BSM]

I still don't get where God's truth has been distorted. Although attempts have been made in uncountable moments in history to distort God's truth by innumerable individuals beginning with Satan, Adam and Eve; that did not cause God's truth to be distorted in the sense that a reliable conveyance of God's truth is no longer available. Often when an attempt is made to convey a distorted version of God's truth, God has always provided a means by which individuals can obtain an accurate rendering of God's truth - be it through someone's testimony or an accurate written rendering of God's truth. I encounter distortion of God's Word all the time such as in this study by Joseph Prince; but I have done my homework in order to carefully test each point made with a reliable translation of theBible utilizing the normative rules of language, context and logic as taught by and large in homes, schools, etc., everywhere .

Since the Word of God has actually NOT been changed / distorted; and since it is by some means available to all mankind UNDISTORTED for those who are seeking to convey / receive the truth, then this is not an insurmountable problem; although there might be a great deal of difficulty, which might require do diligence to resolve the matter. Today in many places in the world, one need only consult a reliable translation of the Bible in their favorite language of which there are many. There are any number of really reliable English translations of God's Word available beginning with the NASB, YLT, NKJV, HOLMAN STANDARD, AMERICAN STANDARD, KJV and others. And we have available manuscripts and interlinear bibles which convey the text of God's Word as well in order to verify that the translation you are using is reliable.

[JP]

Nonetheless, it is important we realize that as with any restoration of God’s truths in church history, there are distortions today to the restoration of the truth of grace. There are many controversies, inaccuracies, and counterfeits to the genuine work of grace that God is doing in His church and in people’s lives. It is also unfortunate that a small number misrepresent the truth of God’s amazing grace, using “grace” as an excuse for living a licentious lifestyle that is in clear violation of God’s Word.

[BSM]

Again there is no need to restore God's truths for whatever reason you think you have. God's truths have not be distorted such that the accurate conveyance of God's truths have been unavailable at any time. Simply consult your reliable Bible version which has never been distorted throughout its existence - do your do diligence to check its reliability out - follow the proper rules of interpretation . Just get an accurate, trustworthy version of God's Word which has ALWAYS been available throughout the ages, read it properly in accordance with the normative rules of language, context and logic , observing what it is saying and repeat what you have properly learned to others who have either a distorted or a correct view of God's truth - unlike Joseph Prince in this article whose view is flawed. God's truths in His Word are not needed to be restored at all; despite the fact that distortions of God's Word have been around since Adam and Eve and Satan. Remember the reason God brought about the worldwide flood which destroyed all but 8 people on the planet because everyone but the 8 were distorting God's truths all the time. Well that did not alter God's truths throughout that time from the beginning, nor have an accurate rendering of God's truths been unavailable all the way throughout the ages from the beginning.

[JP]

It is essential that we do not draw about God’s grace based on the few who abuse it, but study God’s Word for ourselves to understand what the original, unadulterated gospel of grace truly is.

Our responsibility as ministers entrusted with the gospel is not to back away from the truth of God’s grace, but to heed the advice that Apostle Paul gave to Timothy. He instructed his young protégé to “be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus” and to “study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth” (2 Tim. 2:1, 2 Tim. 2:15 KJV).

For this reason, I would like to address in this article some of the key inaccurate and counterfeit grace teachings that have grown prevalent and led some astray. These counterfeit and pseudo grace teachings have also turned off some pastors and ministers to the gospel of grace.

[BSM]

Amen, with one proviso. The phrase "gospel of grace" DOES NOT APPEAR IN SCRIPTURE!!!!! Furthermore, you seem to be defining this phrase to include events in the Christian life, after one has become a believer which obviously includes experiences which may be good or bad. For no believer is going to be perfect in his temporal life, (1 Jn 1:8, 10). Since the word "gospel" means good news, and since not all Christian experiences are good news; and since salvation unto eternal life is always good news; then this presents a confusion which is not part of Scripture. It is not a good idea to explain this phrase as if it does appear in the Bible.

That's what I have been writing / saying all this time above and in my website, biblestudymanuals.net. But most people have and will continue to distort God's truths nearly all the time. That does not mean that God's truths are not available to anyone who honestly seek it. God will make provision of His truths to those who honestly seek Him.

[JP]

This is most unfortunate and my prayer is that pastors and church leaders all around the world will receive for themselves an accurate revelation and understanding of the good news that is changing lives and drawing precious people into an intimate relationship with our Savior.

[BSM]
There is no new - extra biblical revelation until Christ comes again in His Second Coming
. There isn't a 67th book of the Bible available for someone to produce as new revelation. There is no need for people to receive a new revelation of an understanding of the good news because we have the Bible - an accurate, trustworthy Bible. It is adequate in providing that understanding in this age - and throughout the ages. It was never unreliable, nor needed restoration. And the gospel does not guarantee changed lives either - hence the epistles which teach believers in this age to learn to act faithfully. Finally, when one expresses a moment of faith alone in Jesus Christ alone they have an intimate [and eternal] relationship with their Savior from the moment when one expresses that faith.

[JP]
I pray that as God-appointed shepherds over our flocks, we do not make judgments based on incomplete sound bites and hearsay, but will thoroughly examine what each grace preacher is actually teaching and carefully check it against Scripture.

[BSM] Amen. That's what I am doing here; and it looks like you are not very careful with God's Word as I have previously pointed out to you.

[JP]

IS GRACE A LICENSE TO SIN?

Because of the abuses and inaccurate representations of the teaching of true grace, I have heard many warning others, “Watch out for that dangerous grace teaching, it gives people a license to sin."

[BSM]

Remember that all sins are paid for (1 Jn 2:2); and remember that believers' sins - past, present and - future sins - after they become believers have been previously paid for and forgiven before they are even committed without losing their salvation:

Since all sins have been paid for, for all of mankind - even the worst of us, (1 Jn 2:2) - past, present and future; a believer remains saved even if he continues in sin, (Ro 6:1). Relative to the forever possession of eternal life, sin is not the issue; and an individual who has trusted alone in Christ alone for payment for his sins is forever forgiven and forever saved unto eternal life, no matter what - because eternal life is eternal / forever / everlasting once received. But there will be other consequences when he does sin / but not the loss of eternal life. Click on the following to read about God's discipline of the believer who continues to sin .

[Compare 1 John 2:1-2 (NASB)]

1  My little children, [believers are in view] I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the Righteous;

2  and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world.

So no one is going to be held accountable for his sins relative to having eternal life - NO ONE. All of mankind's sins are paid for including the worst of humanity. Whether or not one is righteous enough to enter heaven, now that is the question. And all that takes is a moment of faith alone in Christ alone

Therefore Christians are afforded the latitude to sin without losing their possession of eternal life because all of their sins, even those yet to be committed in the future of their mortal lives have been paid for (1 Jn 2:2)!!!!!! And they have been personally forgiven of all sins past, present
and future at the point of faith alone in Christ alone; and they have eternal, forever possession of eternal life and many other blessings at their moment of faith alone in Christ alone .
Nevertheless, there will be consequences, even dire ones depending upon the severity of their sins , for believers choose to sin in their temporal lives continually, (1 Jn 1:8, 10 ). But there will never be loss of salvation unto eternal life. On the other hand, believers when they sin disrupt their fellowship with God which may result in loss of temporal blessings; and discipline which may be quite substantial, even to the extent of sickness and pain, even premature physical death, as well as the devastating loss of eternal rewards when they do inevitably get to heaven and have to spend the rest of eternity in far more lowly positions and enjoyment capacity for the rest of eternity than what they could have enjoyed had they been more faithful,


[JP]

If you hear of any “grace” teaching that tells you it is all right to sin, to live without any regard for the Lord, and that there are no consequences to sin, my advice to you is to flee from that teaching.

You have just been exposed to counterfeit grace. Genuine grace teaches that believers in Christ are called to live holy, blameless, and above reproach. It teaches that sin always produces destructive consequences and that it is only through the power of the gospel of Jesus Christ that one can be set free from the dominion of sin.

[BSM]

Although believers have died to sin, there are no guarantees that we believers will live out our temporal lives without comitting sins. So it is not true that "through the power of the gospel of Jesus Christ that one can be set free from the dominion of sin" as Pastor Joseph Prince seems to maintain. This is so because the believer may reenslave himself to his old sin nature again and again.

Shall we review the first two verses of Romans chapter six?


****** EXCERPT FROM ROMANS CHAPTER 6 ******

I) [Ro 6:1]:

(v. 6:1) "What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase?"

A) PAUL ASKS THE BELIEVER WHAT SHALL WE SAY THEN IN VIEW OF GOD'S EVER ABOUNDING GRACE COVERING MAN'S EVER INCREASING SINS

"What shall we say, then?" =

Paul asks the question "What shall we say then?", i.e., What conclusions shall we draw in view of what he just got through saying in 5:20-21 - that law was added so that the trespass - deliberate violation of a now made known statute of God's holiness - might increase; but where sin increased, God's free grace covering of that sin increased all the more in order that, just as sin had ruled in man causing temporal and eternal death so God's grace which covers sins might reign in the believer through His provision of righteousness to those who expressed a moment of faith alone in Jesus Christ our Lord alone.

B) THE QUESTION IS THEN ASKED, 'SHALL WE BELIEVERS REMAIN IN SIN, I.E., LEAD A LIFESTYLE OF SIN IN SUBJECTION TO THE REIGN OF THE INTRINSIC SIN NATURE?

"What shall we say then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase?" =

Paul then asks individuals who were earlier described as "called of Jesus", (1:6); "beloved of God", "saints", (1:7); and thus it is implied are justified by a moment of faith alone in Christ alone, i.e., believers: 'shall we (believers) go on sinning so that God's free grace goes on covering the penalty for those sins?'

C) SINCE GOD'S GRACE COVERS THE BELIEVER'S SINS THE BELIEVER IS ETERNALLY SECURE

"What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase?" (cont.) =

Notice that the ever increasing sins committed by the believer are covered by God's ever increasing grace maintaining the believer's righteous standing before God. Hence the believer is eternally secure because of God's ever increasing grace.

"epimenoumen [pres, act, subj] ........te amartia [dative case]" =

"are we to remain....................................in sin" ..........................=

"are we to remain" is in the deliberative subjunctive which poses a question of objective possibility best rendered in English, 'Are we to - is such the path' (maybe we choose to and maybe we don't)

D) SHALL BELIEVERS CONTINUE IN SIN, I.E., REMAIN UNDER THE REIGN OF THE SIN NATURE SO THAT GOD'S GRACE TO COVER THEIR SINS MAY INCREASE?

(v. 5:20 NKJV) "Moreover the [the] law entered that the offense might abound. But where sin abounded, grace abounded much more. (v. 5:21 NKJV) so that as sin reigned in death, even so grace might reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. (v. 6:1) What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase?" =

The question is asked, 'Shall we believers continue in sin, i.e., lead a lifestyle of sin in subjection to the reign of the intrinsic sin nature since God's grace will increase to cover those sins?

Verse 6:1 states the false objection in the form of a question:

'One may say that if one is saved by grace alone through faith alone that the more one sins the more grace abounds to cover those sins. So a believer can choose to continue "in sin", i.e., remain under the absolute control of the sin nature. The more that the believer committed evil acts, the more God's grace would increase to provide forgiveness for those sins. Thus objectors to free grace salvation by faith alone in Christ alone falsely state that if a moment of faith in Christ were the only condition whereby one is to be saved, (and it is), then believers would be encouraged to keep on sinning'. Nothing could be further from the truth. That is why Paul uses the strong negative in verse 2.

It is notable that Paul begins this discussion by raising an objection and answering it. The objection grows out of his presentation of justification, especially the teaching that where sin increased, grace increased all the more (5:20). The query, then, is to this effect: 'Are we not able, or even obligated, by the logic of justification, to continue on in sin, now that we are Christians, in order to give divine grace as much opportunity as possible to display itself? The more we sin, the more will God's grace be manifested to meet the situation, and this will in turn contribute the more to His glory.'

II) [Ro 6:2]:

(v. 6:1) What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase?

(v. 6:2) "Far be the thought! Such ones as we, - who died to sin! How shall we any longer be living in it?"

A) PAUL USES THE STRONGEST OF NEGATIVES TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, 'ARE WE BELIEVERS TO REMAIN IN SIN THAT GRACE MAY BE ABOUNDING?'

"Far be the thought" = "By no means" =

"Me .genoito"

"Not May it be!"

This is the strongest of negatives in koine Greek, it is in the aorist tense, middle voice, optative mood. Optative mood signifies Paul's wish that it be so that believers not continue committing acts of sin. Hence it is not a certainty. The aorist tense in optative mood signifies a simple undefined completed action, not a continuous one. The concept of completed action here, or rather negative completed action, points to the believer "by no means" should believers ever consider continuing in sin at any point in time. Hence we have the aorist tense which emphatically rules out such a consideration at any time.

The middle voice indicates that the believer's participation is required in some manner upon himself - it is up to him to decide whether to go on sinning or not.

B) BELIEVERS HAVE DIED TO, I.E., HAVE BEEN SEPARATED FROM THE ABSOLUTE AUTHORITY - FROM THE SLAVERY TO - THEIR OLD SIN NATURES IN THEIR DAILY LIVES

(v. 5:21) "so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. (v. 6:1) What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? (v. 6:2) Far be the thought! Such ones as we, - who died to sin! How shall we any longer be living in it?"

"Such ones as we - who died to sin" =

"Such ones as we" = "hoitines", relative pronoun of characterization which has in view all believers with an emphatic force because of it's primary position at the beginning of the phrase.

"who died to sin" = having become dead, i.e., inactivated relative to being separated from the authority of the sin nature in the believer's life. Sin is singular and refers here to the capacity or nature within man which compels him to commit acts of sin, i.e., the sin nature.

The verb "died" is "apethanomen" in the Greek which is in the aorist tense denoting a completed action and not an ongoing one. Thus it cannot refer to an action as ongoing or prolonged such as a lifestyle of not sinning any more or one of gradually decreasing of acts of sin, as many maintain. Since it is a completed action it must refer to no longer being under the control of the sin nature such that the believer is not enslaved to sin all the time any more. Since believers are exhorted not to continue committing acts of sin in this passage indicating that they indeed can sin, a state of ongoing sinlessness cannot be in view. Thus the action in 'died to sin' is an aorist completed action. Hence we are looking at the believer being separated from the absolute authority over him of the sin nature within the believer such that when he was an unbeliever, everything he did was motivated by the sin nature - even the human good he did.

Previously, in verse 5:21 we learned that the old sin nature in the individual reigned "in death" in the unsaved man's life, i.e., sin rules the world to the end that all men are born sinners and spiritually dead; hence all men will physically die. But now the believer is no longer enslaved under that reign, He has died, i.e., become separated from the rule of death of the sin nature through the grace of God through the righteousness of Jesus Christ given to the believer when he believed and such position of righteousness is maintained solely by God. The believer's physical death will be immediately followed by eternal life and eternal righteousness - unless the Rapture when Christ comes into the clouds above and takes you home to evermore be with Him.

1) [Compare Ro 6:6]:

(v. 6) "Knowing this that our old self was crucified with Him so that the body of sin might be rendered powerless, that we should no longer be slaves to sin -"

Notice that this verse corroborates that the sin nature, the body of sin, has had its rule over an individual broken, i.e., "rendered powerless." It has not been annihilated or rendered incapable of functioning again if the individual resorts to exercising it once again.

II cont.) [Ro 6:2 cont.]:

(v. 6:2) "Far be the thought! Such ones as we, - who died to sin! How shall we any longer be living in it?"

C) HAVING DIED TO SIN, I.E., THE SIN NATURE DOES NOT SIGNIFY THAT THE SIN NATURE NO LONGER EXISTS, NOR THAT IT NO LONGER CAN HAVE INFLUENCE OVER THE BELIEVER

"Such ones as we, - who died to sin! How shall we any longer be living in it?" =.

Notice that Paul's question, 'How shall we any longer be living in it?' implies that it is indeed possible that the believer can do just that: The believer still has the capacity to live in sin in spite of the fact that he has died, i.e., been separated from the control of the sin nature of his lifestyle.

D) A QUESTION IS PHRASED IN SUCH A WAY AS TO ELICIT THE ANSWER THAT THE BELIEVER WILL NOT BE LIVING UNDER THE CONTROL OF THE SIN NATURE BECAUSE HE HAS BEEN SEPARATED FROM ITS CONTROL OVER HIM

"How shall we any longer be living in it" =

The verb "be living in it" is rendered from the Greek:

"pOs eti .......zEsomen ......en autE" =

"how longer shall we live in .it"

"zEsomen" is in the future tense, active voice and indicative mood. Indicative mood is a statement of fact. Hence the question follows Paul's declaration that the believer has died to sin and emphasizes it all the more. Since the control of the sin nature has been deactivated in the believer's life Paul then asks, 'How will the believer live under it?' for the control of the sin nature over the believer has been made inactive in the believer's life. This question is phrased in such a way as to elicit the answer that the believer will not be living under the control of the sin nature because he has been separated from its control over him.

This is not to say, however, that the believer cannot still voluntarily resubmit himself to the control of his sin nature from moment to moment. Hence the many exhortations to lead a faithful lifestyle by the author in this passage, throughout the book of Romans and throughout the New Testament.


****** END EXCERPT ROMANS CHAPTER 6 ******


[JP]

Study Titus 2:11–15: 

For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men, teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age, looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, who gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from every lawless deed and purify for Himself His own special people, zealous for good works. Speak these things, exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no one despise you.

The Word of God states in no uncertain terms that the grace of God teaches us to deny ungodliness and live godly lives. Therefore, watch out for counterfeit grace teachings that contradict Scripture.


[BSM]

[Compare Titus 2:11-15]:

(Titus 2:11 NASB) "For the grace of God has prepared, bringing salvation to all men,


(Titus 2:12 NASB) instructing us to deny ungodliness and worldly desires and to live sensibly, righteously and godly in the present age.


(Titus 2:13 NASB) looking for the blessed hope and the [his] appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus,


[So believers are instructed / commanded to deny ungodliness and worldly desires and to live sensibly, righteously and godly in the present age. Notice that there is evidently no guarantee that these instructions will be consistently obeyed if at all.]


(Titus 2:14 NASB) Who gave Himself for us to redeem us from every lawless deed, and to purify for Himself a people for His own possession, zealous for good deeds.


[So Christ gave Himself for us, that He out of His own efforts on the cross redeemed us believers from all lawlessness and purified to Himself out of mankind, a special people zealous of good works. Notice that it is all of Christ and none of the believer accomplishing the believer's redemption from every lawless deed, and it is solely the work of Christ and not that of the believer that accomplishes the work of purifying for Himself [Christ] a people for His own possession, zealous for good deeds. Hence the believers' efforts or lack thereof for these purposes DO NOT CONTRIBUTE TOWARD the ends that are specified. On the other hand believers are commanded to forsake lawless deeds, (sinful acts) and be zealous of good works, etc. but these efforts will not be perfect, but by the grace of God, will be additionally rewarded eternal rewards for any efforts they do make.

(Titus 2:15 NASB) These things speak and exhort and reprove with all authority. Let no one disregard you.


Notice that this passage does not guarantee that believers will deny ungodliness, worldly lusts, and live sober, righteous and godly lives actually indicates that what Jesus Christ did on the cross includes the believers  being transformed into beings, i.e., into resurrection bodies who will deny ungodliness, worldly lusts, and live sober righteous and godly lives, not on the basis of their efforts at all, but on the basis of what Christ has done for them on the cross in order to accomplish that transformation. Although believers in their temporal bodies with sin natures are commanded to endeavor to be faithful - be zealous for good works, deny ungodliness, worldly lusts, and live sober righteous and godly lives; their efforts will continually be hampered by the indwelling sin nature. Nor is there any guarantee in the passage that believers will in this life be zealous for good works all or the majority of the time in their lives. These are commands, but there are no guarantees. Hence we believers in the church age have all the epistles in the New Testament Bible to instruct us on how to live faithful lives in Christ, including Paul's letter to Titus. And the presence of these instructive epistles corroborate that there are no guarantees in the Christian life for victorious living; hence the provision for maintaining fellowship with God in 1 Jn chapter one when believers fall out of fellowship with God which includes 1 Jn 1:8 and 10 which indicate that no believer can claim to be without sin, or have not sinned at any point in time in his Christian life. Therefore 1 Jn 1:9 reads, "If we [believers] confess our sins, God is faithful and just to forgive us these sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. Note that 1st John is not addressed to Gnostics because having fellowship with God comes after one is saved; and Gnostics are not believers - they are unbelievers. And confession of sins does not provide eternal life, a moment of faith alone in Christ alone does.

****** EXCERPT FROM 1 JN CHAPTER ONE******                            

(1 Jn 1:8) IF WE CHILDREN OF GOD, BORN OF GOD INCLUDING APOSTLES SAY THAT WE HAVE NO SIN - IN THE SENSE OF HAVING NOT COMMITTED A SINGLE SIN WITH A PARTICULAR TIMEFRAME IN VIEW, WE DECEIVE OURSELVES AND THE TRUTH IS NOT IN US - AND NEITHER FOR THE MOMENT IS FELLOWSHIP WITH GOD

(1 Jn 1:6 NASB) "If we [should] say that we have fellowship with Him and.yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not [do] the truth; (1 Jn 1:7 NASB) but if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, [One = God, with another = with each of we children of God, born of God walking in the light], and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin. (1 Jn 1:8 NASB) .If we [should] say that we have no sin, we [deceive] ourselves and the truth is not in us." =

[Variant "the truth of God" in some miniscules and syr - little support, unnecessarily expanded the word "truth." The shortest reading is best]

After enlightening children of God, born of God in 1 Jn 1:5-7 on how to have fellowship with God by their unceasing acknowledgment that God is Perfect Light / Absolute Righteousness, and by unceasing acknowledgment that they constantly fall short of His Absolute Righteousness and need unceasing cleansing of their sins by the blood of Jesus God's Son; author John returns in 1 Jn 1:8 to children of God, born of God' (including apostles') tendency - even those who have a consistency of being in fellowship with God, to deceive themselves when they falsely consider themselves free of committing acts of sin; when they falsely think that they do not need continuous cleansing from "the blood of Jesus Christ."

The first phrase in verse 8, "If we [should] say that we have no sin" comprises the first clause of a 3rd class If-Then statement. The Greek words "ean eipOmen" rendered "If we [should] say" is in the aorist tense and the subjunctive mood, conveying a completed action of maybe we do say, and maybe we do not say. The subjunctive mood of objective possibility conveys a message of children of God, born of God potentially making a statement that they have no sin, [sin, singular conveying that the child of God, born of God no longer bears present guilt for some particular sin - any sin*]" For the Greek words "hamartian ouk echomen" rendered "we have no sin" is in the present tense conveying a moment in time when one thinks there is not a single sin that one can be held accountable for in a timeframe they falsely perceive as one of sinless perfection.

*Although the sin nature, the principle of sin that pervades all mortal humanity except Jesus Christ is present even in children of God, born of God including the apostles; nevertheless the phrase rendered "we have no sin," in the NASB does not refer to the presence of the sin nature / the sin principle within one, as some contend. For the Greek phrase transliterated "ouk echomen hamartian" lit. "sin not we have" and rendered "we have no sin" in the NASB, occurs elsewhere in the New Testament in John's Gospel, (cf. 9:41; 15:22, 24; 19:11). In all these places, the obvious meaning is to bear present guilt for some particular sin - any sin, implying that the phrase rendered "we have no sin," in 1 Jn 1:8 implies the false idea that a child of God, born of God experiences moments of sinless perfection.

A child of God, born of God may not be conscious of any acts of sin in his life, or maintain that he no longer has a sin nature which produces acts of sin; or he may think that he has overcome his sin nature with his new nature via the indwelling Holy Spirit  for a period of time in order to achieve moments of sinless perfection. Some might even falsely contend that they are beyond the categories of good and evil because they possess the Spirit of God or have achieved some kind of spiritual transcendance. But whatever one thinks does not contradict the fact that while in one's mortal body, one nevertheless has a sin nature, commits sin all the time, and constantly falls short of the glory of God - His Absolute Righteousness all the time - children of God, born of God including apostles (as well as all unbelievers). This is clearly and repeatedly conveyed in Scripture, (1 Jn 1:10; even admitted to by the apostle Paul after he became a child of God, born of God and an apostle: ref. Romans chapter 7 ).

The second clause of the If-Then statement contains two phrases, "we [deceive] ourselves and the truth is not in us." It declares the result of when we children of God, born of God do say that we have no sin: we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us." It brings out into the light those children of God, born of God who have wilfully hidden their mentalities from the sphere of light in which God dwells - the sphere of His Absolute Righteousness, which sphere man cannot attain under his own auspices in his mortal life. This is man's typical self deception - his arrogance - which serves to puff himself up to think that he has committed no sin for a period of time - that he has no sin nature or has overcome it if he is a child of God, born of God with the new nature within him that the Holy Spirit has provided . The Greek word "heautous" rendered "ourselves" is the first word in the second clause, "we [deceive] ourselves and the truth is not in us." It is in an emphatic position emphasizing that such a self deception is deliberate and wilful, bearing no resemblance to the truth nor to innocence. Such children of God, born of God are in danger of becoming progressively delusional and evil as the timespan that they claim to be without sin increases.

So when children of God, born of God feel close to God, they should nevertheless remember that a closeness with God, i.e., a genuine fellowship with Him is not due to their being free of sin - without acts of sin being committed by them, or by some kind of feeling based on emotion or some unbiblical idea. Fellowship with God only comes to a child of God, born of God via confession to God Who is Light / Absolute Righteousness, and out of the grace of God because of the shed blood of Jesus Christ, His Son, which cleanses us from all sin, (1 Jn 1:7). Fellowship does not result from how good the child of God, born of God behaves or feels but how much more he is focused upon God's Absolute Righteousness as compared with the evil nature of his own thoughts, words and deeds which he acknowledges to God.

And notice that it is Christ Himself by virtue of His giving of Himself on the cross for us that He might redeem us from every lawless deed and purify for Himself His own special people, zealous for good works. But these guarantees will be fulfilled when we go to be with Him and are transformed into perfect individuals in resurrection bodies like the Lord's. So this wonderful end is indeed part of what He has done for us who believe in His propitiation for our sins - and for all humanity should they believe in Him. Notice it is ALL by His effort AND NOTHING THAT WE DO - WE CONTRIBUTE NOTHING toward that end!!!! Albeit our efforts to attempt to obey the commands in this temporal life - albeit always imperfect here in this passage and elsewhere in Scripture to be faithful do contribute to the reception of eternal rewards above and beyond what Christ and Him alone has done for us. So observing what an individual does is not an accurate measure of whether or not he is a believer destined for heaven.


[JP]

So how do we know if someone is truly living under the grace of God?

We look at their lives.


[BSM]

That's arrogant. Are you that righteous that you can tell if someone's conduct demonstrates that they are saved unto eternal life. Have you watched them 24 / 7, discerned their innermost thoughts??? Is salvation unto eternal life dependent upon their conduct, their works????


[Compare Eph 2:8-9]:

(Eph 2:8-9 NAS) "For by grace you have been [lit., are having been] saved through faith, and this [salvation is] not of yourselves, [it is] the gift of God,

(Eph 2:9 YLT) not of works that no one may boast."


Notice that ones salvation unto eternal life cannot be corroborated by ones works because one did nothing to get it; nor did one do anything to keep it. It is the gift of God with NO proviso in this passage that they do anything in order to keep it! Other passages may not be consulted in order to modify or add to what Eph 2:8-9 is conveying. That is the rule of context. You cannot edit a passage based on what another passage says. It must stand on its own context. That is how one learned to read from the beginning of ones schooling in how to read. Otherwise the Bible is a contradictory book and must be discarded. If other passages say differently, then burn the Bible and find another book to trust in, if you can; (and you cannot if you read it properly .


[JP]

If someone is leaving his wife for his secretary and tells you he is under “grace,” tell this person that he is not under grace but under deception! 


[BSM]

Actually if someone is saved unto eternal life, he has been saved through a moment of faith alone in Christ alone; and that [salvation] is not of himself, it is the gift of God, not by works; (Eph 2:8-9). So anything he does after salvation is not required to keep that salvation; nor will anything he does necessarily reflect that salvation. No believer leads a sinless life, or even have sinless moments, (1 Jn1:8, 10). He has been saved by grace and relative to that salvation unto eternal life he is forever under God's grace no matter what. He is not under deception at all - he can sin because Ro 6:1 says so: What shall we [believers say] shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase - so that God will cover that sin relative to salvation unto eternal life? He may sin but that is not a license to sin because God will indeed discipline His child if he continues to sin . There is no deception there at all. Albeit he may no longer realize that he is saved by grace for one reason or another. He has the latitude to sin but he will pay the consequences here in this life and in eternity when he goes to heaven when he will suffer great loss of rewards in eternity and will not enjoy serving the Lord for the rest of forever as much as he could have had he been more faithful and persevered in the faith .

[JP]

If someone is leaving his wife for his secretary and tells you he is under “grace,” tell this person that he is not under grace but under deception! Go by the authority of God’s Word, not what this man says. Romans 6:14 states, “For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace.” If this person were truly living under grace, he would not be dominated by such a sin. And no one living in sin can legitimately use grace as an excuse to sin, because it is antithetical to God’s holy Scriptures.

                                                                                                                                       

[BSM]

When you say, "Go by the authority of God's Word, not what the man says" I say, "Amen." And then you quote Romans 6:14, "For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace." But it seems that you don't understand that believers have been freed from the absolute dominion of sin over them, but that DOES NOT MEAN THAT THEY CANNOT REENSLAVE THEMSELVES TO SIN once again. as they so choose. Then you violate God's Word by what you wrote by saying, "If this person were truly living under grace, he would not be dominated by such a sin." That does not make sense, because the believer can redominate himself by sin as he so chooses at anytime. He just is not always absolutely dominated by sin all the time unless he chooses to redominate himself to sin all the time again and again - because all sins are pais for, past, present and future relative to salvation unto eternal life!!! It is now his choice in the Christian life to do so. Since this person was sinning, God's grace under which he was living was indeed covering all of his sins relative to eternal life if he were a believer which I must presume he is in accordance with the context of your statements here. Compare Ro 6:1, which states, "What shall we say, shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase?" So the man was indeed truly living under grace as a believer, albeit he was sinning as you stated, yet God was indeed covering his sins. Living under grace means that when you as a believer sin, God's grace covers your sins because once you became a believer that's what the grace of God does! He always cover your sins, no matter whatrelative to the reception of eternal life! Your idea of what grace means relative to the believer's temporal life differs from what Scripture says. And when you quote Ro 6:14 it seems that you think that sin shall not have dominion over the believer in the sense of how he conducts himself in his temporal life.


[JP]

Genuine grace is not a license to sin; it is the power to live above the dominion of sin. Genuine grace doesn’t compromise God’s holy standards and condone sin; it is the answer that gives people power to live glorious lives zealous for good works.

[BSM]

This is the problem with cherry picking verses and ignoring context. The believer at the point of salvation is no longer under the absolute dominion of sin until he decides to reenslave himself to that dominion once again and again and again - and that's how God's grace unto eternal life operates, The believer keeps his salvation forever because all of his sins are covered by Christ's propitiation for him - past, present and future to that eternal life end no matter what. So for those moments after he got saved and freed from the absolute dominion of sin in which he continues to sin, those sins are nevertheless covered! And he may choose to continue in sin thereafter, however it suits him to ignore his 'job' as a Christian and not study to show himself approved and follow the leading of the Holy Spirit within him to obey what he has learned; but instead follow the prompting / temptations of the sin nature within, disregarding the consequences if he does. For there are disciplinary consequences if the believer continues in sin - from not living out the length of years appointed to him, to the loss of eternal rewards which will enhance ones eternity beyond imagination as believers will have the inestimable capacity to serve God in unimaginably satisfying joyful ways - lost if they do not persevere in the faith. What an inestimable and sorrowful loss that will be, to the extent of weeping and gnashing the teeth for the believer during the millennial rule as he continues to reside in the Millennial Kingdom. Thereafter all tears will be wiped away (Mt 22: ).


[JP]

There will always be a small number of people who are abusing grace, stirring controversy with counterfeit grace teachings, and living in ways that do not glorify the Lord. But what should our response be? Should we shy away from preaching and teaching the true grace of God because of the controversies and abuses? Certainly not. I exhort you today, with the words of Titus, to “Speak these things, exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no one despise you."


[BSM]

Pastor Prince, you wrote, "There will always be a small number of people who are abusing grace, stirring controversy with counterfeit grace teachings, and living in ways that do not glorify the Lord."

NO! All Christians do not lead perfect lives; and therefore they all abuse the grace of God if by that phrase you mean they sin, (1 Jn 1:8, 10); and that's no small number. Not sure what you mean by this phrase, and don't like defining words or phrases that are not in the bible as if they do and then try to give them a biblical meaning. I am not a writer of the Bible. I should only interpret what is in the Bible. And they constantly fall short of the glory of God. I don't know what 'abusing grace' means because this phrase does not appear in the Bible. And what does "counterfeit grace teachings" mean? Again, let's stick with the words that are found in the Bible and not editorialize God's Word. So I am not going to editorialize the Bible and make up some kind of definition for these terms. Why not choose something in the Bible to describe what it says relative to the matter of when Christians sin or what one teaches that might be called something that is not in the bible.

The grace of God which forgives the sins the believer continues in is not a counterfeit grace. It is real, after all Christ died for those sins. They are bought and paid for and the individual who believes in Christ's payment is forgiven of all sins past, present and future unto eternal life. But the value of his life if largely unfaithful will be of little value, thereby the second kind of salvation, the preservation of his temporal life for eternal rewards in heaven will be little if not nothing. What a shame, though that the believer who continues in sin and takes advantage of God's grace and thereby does not move into being more faithful instead. He will pay in this life with God's disciplne; and the next when he suffers great loss of rewards in eternity. His residence in heaven is a free gift, but his lifestyle will cause him to suffer great loss when he realizes for the rest of eternity that the joy he will have is severely limited because he did not persevere in the faith in his temporal life.

Now, Pastor Prince that is the true grace of God, there is nothing counterfeit in His forgiving believers who continue in sin. Christ paid for those sins - all of them, even those the believer commits in his Christian life!! How grand is that. How sad if the believer does not move on much in the Christian life. So that is why you are right in exhorting others with the words of Titus, to "Speak these things, exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no one despise you," for doing this to the end that God's grace will not have to be exercised in covering so many sins for the believer who has decided to continue in sin and not move on in the Christian faith as Paul so aptly preaches especially in (Ro 6:1ff ).


[JP]

In other words, don’t back away from preaching the grace of God. In fact, we should be doubling down on our preaching of the genuine gospel that teaches all to “[deny] ungodliness and worldly lust” and to “live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age.” The more genuine grace is preached, the more counterfeit grace teachings will be stamped out.


[BSM

If you would stop using the phrases, "genuine gospel" and "genuine grace" you would be biblical - these phrases do not appear or are explained in God's Word as such. So long as you go verse by verse in your teaching without adding to Scripture, for example in (Ro 6:1ff ), you will be on target if you read / interpret God's Word in accord with the normative rules of language, context and logic, i.e., utilizing the normative rules of reading that you learned in grammar school. There is only one gospel and one grace that describes God's operation which is characterized by unmerited favor toward others relative to salvation unto eternal life. There are no counterfeit grace teachings addressed in God's Word, they are either gracious or they are not. There is no such thing as genuine grace vs disingenuous grace. Grace means unmerited favor and can apply to how God operates relative to any number of things: salvation unto eternal life, forgiveness of temporal sins; giving out of eternal rewards; etc., etc. There is no such thing as disingenuous grace in the Bible. So leave these kinds of ideas out of explaining the Bible. Just observe and report how God operates verse by verse by verse. So God does forgive ALL of the wrong doing of believers throughout their mortal lives no matter what. Read Ro 6:1ff . There is a latitude by which believers can choose to sin, but there are consequences . Stop confusing people with your editorialzations of the Bible by adding such phrases as "genuine gospel" and "genuine grace" when there is only one gospel and one grace; and the Bible does not address genuine grace and genuine gospel vs disingenuous / counterfeit grace and disingenuous / counterfeit  gospel. We do not need to explain what is counterfeit and what is genuine. If you just preach what God's Word has to offer and stop your editorializations and stick to the words of God's Word and stop offering your own unbiblical interpretation of what phrases and words are not specifically in the Bible in the first place such as the what the gospel and grace are when they are counterfeit and when they are realyou would not be so counterproductive and incomprehensible.



[JP]

People may use the word grace freely, calling themselves “grace preachers” with “grace ministries” or “grace churches.” But we need to be discerning. Just because they use the word grace doesn’t mean they are accurately or truly representing the gospel of grace. Test everything! Be sure that their position against sin is clear, as sin is destructive and brings with it a whole host of damaging consequences.

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[BSM]

So go verse by verse, line upon line and preach the word in accordance with the normative rules of language, context and logic. But stop editorializing and adding words and phrases and explanations that are not in God's Word. Relative to the subject at hand, start with Ro 6:1ff .



[JP]

TRUE GRACE DOESN’T DISREGARD THE MORAL EXCELLENCIES OF THE TEN COMMANDMENTS

There have been many inaccurate explanations about the Ten Commandments in counterfeit grace teachings. Be clear that true grace teaches that the Ten Commandments are holy, just, and good. True grace teaching upholds the moral excellencies, values, and virtues espoused by the Ten Commandments. The Ten Commandments are so perfect in its standard and so unbending in its holy requirements that Galatians 3:11 states that no man can be justified by the law in the sight of God. Justification before God can only come by faith in Christ.

[BSM]

You know that there are more than Ten Commandments in the Law right???? There are 613. Check it out. There is no difference between true grace and grace relative to God's grace salvation unto eternal life, right. True is a redundant word, right??? Do you ever consult the Bible carefully? The phrase "counterfeit grace teachings" does not appear in the Bible nor is it defined in the Bible anywhere. Rather than invent the definition of counterfeit grace teachings which phrase does not appear in the bible, why not learn from the bible what grace means relative to eternal life, forgiveness of sins in the temporal life, and the reception of eternal rewards relative to the grace of God, etc. Do your homework!!!

[JP]

The Ten Commandments are glorious. The problem has never been the Ten Commandments or God’s perfect law. The problem has always been imperfect man’s ability to keep God’s perfect law.


[BSM]

Amen. But you know that there are 613 commandments, not just 10 in the Law of Moses. Read your bible.

Here is an excerpt from Gal 3 on the purposes of the Law. Read this and then explain the Law to your congregation properly according to God's Word:

****** EXCERPT FROM GAL 3 ON THE PURPOSE OF THE LAW ******

OR READ THE ENTIRE STUDY


3) (Gal 3:19a) Why, Then, Was The Law Given At All? Reasons Are As Follows

(Gal 3:19a NIV) "Why, then, was the Law given at all? It was added because [lit., for the sake] of transgressions until the Seed to Whom the promise referred to had come." =

a) The Law Was Given To Reveal The Righteousness Of God - The Standard Of Righteousness That God Demands For Eternal Life And A Proper Relationship With Him In The Temporal Life

i) [Compare Lev 18:5]:

(Lev 18:5 NASB) [The LORD, speaking to Moses said, (v. 1)]: " 'So you shall keep My statutes and My judgments, by which a man may live if he does them; I am the LORD."

Lev 18:5 promises a good life here and eternal life hereafter - the whole OT context of faith in God and trust in His promises, including those given in the symbolism and typeology of the sacrifices detailed in the Book of Leviticus. Notice that keeping the statutes of the Law resulted in living out the temporal life with blessing, enjoyment, fulfillment.

ii) [Compare Gal 3:21]:

(Gal 3:21 NKJV) "Is the Law then against the promises [of God]? Certainly not! For if there [was given] a law which could have given life, truly righteousness would have been by the Law."

Gal 3:21 stipulates that the Mosaic Law is not against the promises of God. On the other hand, if keeping a law could have given eternal life, truly righteousness would have been by the Mosaic Law, implying that the Law is righteous. For man is not capable of being righteous at any time.

iii) [Compare Ro 7:12]:

(Ro 7:12 NASB) "So then, the Law is holy, and the commandment is holy and righteous and good."

This implies that the character of the provisions of the Mosaic Law is an absolutely Righteous one - every statute.

iv) [Compare Ro 2:20b]:

(Ro 2:20b) "[the Jews, (vv. 14, 17-18)] Having in the Law the embodiment of knowledge and of the truth,"

Notice that it is stipulated in Ro 2:20b, "You [Jews] have in the Law the embodiment of knowledge and truth!"

[Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary, G & C Merriam Co, Springfield, USA, 1980, p. 368 provides this applicable meaning of 'embody']:

"Embody... 1 b. To make concrete and perceptible"

This is not to say that the Mosaic Law contains all knowledge and truth. The most applicable definition of the word 'embodiment' here is that the Law makes all knowledge and truth concrete and perceptible, implying that it is the source upon which knowledge and truth is built. Since God is righteous and knowledge and truth and the Law comes from God, then the knowledge and truth which the Law embodies is righteous, hence the Law is the embodiment of God's Righteousness.

The Jews were given the Law by God in order to represent Him to the world. So the Jews evidently are to represent God relative to the Law being given to them by God and their obedience to it as God's chosen people.

b) The Law Was Given To Provide A Rule Of Conduct / Life For Jews - Especially Those Who Are Of The Faith Of Abraham During That Time Period Before The Establishment Of The Body Of Believers In Christ, The Church - An Example For The Rest Of Mankind To Follow, Leading To The Knowledge Of And Faith In The One True God And His Salvation Through His One And Only Son Through Faith Alone In Him Alone

i) [Exodus chapters 20-23]:

c) To keep the Jews a distinct people - the people of the one true God

i) [Compare Lev 11:44-45]:

(Lev 11:44 NASB) " 'For I am the LORD your God. Consecrate yourselves therefore, and be holy, for I am holy. And you shall not make yourselves unclean with any of the swarming things that swarm on the earth.

(Lev 11:45 NASB) 'For I am the LORD Who brought you up from the land of Egypt to be your God; thus you shall be holy, for I am holy.' "

ii) [Compare Lev 20:7-8, 26]:

(Lev 20:7 NASB) " 'You shall consecrate yourselves therefore and be holy, for I am the LORD your God.

(Lev 20:8 NASB) You shall keep My statutes and practice them; I am the LORD Who sanctifies you.

(Lev 20:26 NASB) Thus you are to be holy to Me, for I the LORD am holy; and I have set you apart from the peoples to be Mine"

iii) [Compare Dt 7:6; cf. Dt 14:1ff]:

(Dt 7:6 NASB) "For you are a holy people to the LORD your God; the LORD your God has chosen you to be a people for His own possession out of all the peoples who are on the face of the earth."

This was the specific reason for the Law - setting the Israelites to the one true God apart from the peoples of the world who did not worship Him. This was in order to characterize God as holy and unique. The Law was to be a blessing to them physically and spiritually such as the dietary laws and the clothing laws. The Jews were to be distinct from all other people in a variety of ways, such as their worship habits (Lev 1, 7, 16, 23), their eating habits (Lev 11:1-47), their sexual habits (Lev 12), their clothing habits, Lev 19:19, and even the way they cut their beards (Lev 19:27). Other passages for this point include Ex 19:5-8 and 31:13.

d) The Law Was Given To Provide Israel With Occasions For Individual And Corporate Worship Of God

i) [Review Lev chapter 23 and other key chapters in the Hebrew Bible ]:

e) The Law Was Given To Reveal Sin To Israel And To All Mankind Through Israel's Experience At Failing To Keep The Law - To Demonstrate All Of Mankind's Utter Sinfulness And Helplessness Before A Holy And Righteous God, To Lead One To Seek Eternal Life Via A Moment Of Faith Alone In The Sacrifice Of His Son For Sins Alone

The Law was given Israel to prove mankind's utter sinfulness and helplessness. This is indicated in Paul's own experience in Romans chapter 7.

i) [Ro 7:7-13]:

(Ro 7:7 NASB) "What shall we say then? Is the Law sin? May it never be! On the contrary, I would not have come to know sin except through the Law; for I would not have known about coveting if the Law had not said, 'You shall not covet.' "

(Ro 7:8 NASB) 'But sin, taking opportunity through the commandment, produced in me coveting of every kind; for apart from the Law sin is dead.

(Ro 7:9 NASB) I was once alive apart from the Law; but when the commandment came, sin became alive and I died;

(Ro 7:10 NASB) and this commandment, which was to result in life, proved to result in death for me;

(Ro 7:11 NASB) for sin, taking an opportunity through the commandment, deceived me and through it killed me.

[That the Law was holy and righteous is obvious as stated by Paul in Ro 7:12-13 as follows]:

(Ro 7:12 NASB) So then, the Law is holy, and the commandment is holy and righteous and good.

(Ro 7:13 NASB) Therefore did that which is good become a cause of death for me? May it never be! Rather it was sin, in order that it might be shown to be sin by effecting my death through that which is good, so that through the commandment sin would become utterly sinful."

Apart from the life of Jesus Christ in His perfect and sinless humanity, (2 Cor 5:21), there has been universal failure to keep such laws as God has revealed to mankind. The Law was never given as a means for salvation or justification. The Law became a curse to Israel (ref. Gal 3:10) bringing them condemnation (2 Cor 3:9) and death (Rom. 7:10-11) and to all mankind by the example of her failure. A beneficial effect of the Law was to drive Israel to Christ as the only Savior and Mediator.

ii) [Compare Ro 3:19-20 cf. Gal 3:11, 24]:

(Ro 3:19 NASB) "Now we know that whatever the Law says, it speaks to those who are under the Law, so that every mouth may be closed and all the world may become accountable to God;

(Ro 3:20 NASB) because by the works of ... law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through law comes knowledge of sin."

iii) [Compare Ro 5:20]:

(Ro 5:20 NASB) The Law came in so that the transgression would increase; but where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

Notice that the Law increased sin, revealing the sinfulness of mankind. It represented to mankind what is holy and righteous as the God of Israel is holy and righteous.

f) The Law Was Given To Shut Up Everyone Under Sin, So That The Promise By Faith In Jesus Christ Might Be Given To, i.e., Fulfilled In Those - Jew And Gentile - Who Believe. The Law Thus Became Our Tutor [Guardian-Trainor] To Lead Us To Christ, So That We May Be Justified By Faith

i) [Compare Gal 3:22-24]:

(Gal 3:22 NASB) "But the Scripture has shut up everyone under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.

(Gal 3:23 NASB) But before [this] faith [in Jesus] came, we [all mankind] were [being guarded] under law, [having been] shut up to the faith [in Jesus] which was later to be revealed [by His appearance in history with His atonement for sins on the cross].

(Gal 3:24 NASB) Therefore the Law has become our tutor [guardian-trainor] to lead us to Christ, so that we may be justified by faith."

g) The Law Was Given To Make A Person Sin More

i) [Compare Ro 5:20, cf. 7:7-13]:

(Ro 5:20 NASB) "The Law came in so that the transgression would increase; but where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

h) The Law Was Given To Serve As A Wall Of Partition Between Jew And Gentile - Until It - The Law - Was Abolished

i) [Compare Eph 2:14-15]:

(Eph 2:14 NASB) "For He Himself is our peace, [having made the both] groups into one and [having abolished] [the dividing wall of the] barrier [of enmity (v. 15)] between us,

(Eph 2:15 YLT) [having abolished (v. 14)] the enmity [between both groups] in His flesh, [having annulled] the Law of the commands [contained] in ordinances ... that the two [groups] He might create in Himself into one new man, making peace,"

Eph 2:14-15 goes on to declare that Christ has made, in the sense of created, both groups - Jewish believers and Gentile believers - into one group which is neither Jew nor Gentile, but one new creation in Christ Jesus, (cf. Gal 3:28; 2 Cor 5:17) - Christ having abolished in His flesh, (Eph 2:15), the dividing wall - literally, the middle wall of the partition in the sense of the dividing wall that is the barrier - the Mosaic Law, the "enmity" between the two groups, (Eph 2:15) - resulting in no godly reason for there to be enmity between one another in this temporal life, nor in eternity. Neither Jew nor Gentile believer in Christ Jesus can claim superiority over the other. Both must rely on the grace of God for the temporal and eternal life through faith in His Son.

i) The Law Was Given To Serve As An Example Of The Righteousness Of God By Which Christ Did Live And Thus Qualify Himself In His Perfect Sinless Humanity Without A Sin Nature To Die In Payment For The Sins Of The Whole World In Order To Provide The Gift Of His Righteousness To Those Who Trust Alone In Him Alone For Eternal Life

i) The Law represents the Righteousness of God - the standard of righteousness that God demands for eternal life and for a proper relationship with Him in the temporal life in every statute

[Compare Gal 3:21]:

(Gal 3:21 NKJV) "Is the Law then against the promises [of God]? Certainly not! For if there [was given] a law which could have given life, truly righteousness would have been by the Law."

Gal 3:21 stipulates that the Mosaic Law is not against the promises of God, so if keeping a law could have given eternal life, but it is man that is not capable, truly righteousness would have been by the Mosaic Law indicating that the Law is righteous.

[Compare Ro 7:12]:

(Ro 7:12 NASB) "So then, the Law is holy, and the commandment is holy and righteous and good."

This implies that the character of the provisions of the Mosaic Law is an absolutely Righteous one - every statute.

[Compare Ro 2:20b]:

(Ro 2:20b) "[the Jews, (vv. 14, 17-18)] Having in the Law the embodiment of knowledge and of the truth,"

Notice that it is stipulated in Ro 2:20b, "You [Jews] have in the Law the embodiment of knowledge and truth!"

[Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary, G & C Merriam Co, Springfield, USA, 1980, p. 368 provides this applicable meaning of 'embody']:

"Embody... 1 b. To make concrete and perceptible"

This is not to say that the Mosaic Law contains all knowledge and truth. The most applicable definition of the word 'embodiment' here is that the Law makes all knowledge and truth concrete and perceptible, implying that it is the source upon which knowledge and truth is built. Since God is righteous and knowledge and truth and the Law comes from God, then the knowledge and truth which the Law embodies is righteous, hence the Law is the embodiment of God's Righteousness.

The Jews were given the Law by God in order to represent Him to the world. So the Jews evidently are to represent God relative to the Law being given to them by God and their obedience to it as God's chosen people.

****** END OF EXCERPT FROM GAL 3 ON THE PURPOSE OF THE LAW ******


[JP]

Based on the terms of the Mosaic covenant, if you kept God’s law, you were blessed. But if you didn’t, you were cursed and condemned with a death sentence hanging over your head.

[BSM]

Not all violations of the Mosaic Law were death sentences. Consult your bible - read the above excerpt again on Gal 3 . Stick to what the Bible says and stop editorializing.


[JP]

The fact is that under the old covenant, no man could keep the law perfectly. That is why soon after the law was given, God made a provision of animal sacrifices so that man’s curse, condemnation, and death sentence could be transferred to the sacrificial bull or lamb.


[BSM]

Not true. Check your bible. Capital offenses were not transferred to animals. People were stoned to death

even in Jesus' time, no one went and got an animal. Attempts were made on Jesus' life, and Paul's by the "keepers of the Law, the Pharisees, etc. They did not sacrifice animals in their stead]

[JP]

The fact is that under the old covenant, no man could keep the law perfectly. That is why soon after the law was given, God made a provision of animal sacrifices so that man’s curse, condemnation, and death sentence could be transferred to the sacrificial bull or lamb.

This is a picture of Jesus at the cross! When John the Baptist saw the Lord Jesus on the banks of the Jordan River, he said, “Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world” (John 1:29). So even in the law we see that man’s only hope to be right with God once and for all is Christ. True grace teaching esteems the moral excellencies of the law, but it will also make clear to us that no man can be justified by keeping the Ten Commandments so that we see our need for Christ.


[BSM]

You must know that the Law has 613 commandments, not just 10! So the sacrifices of animals were pictures, foreshadowings of Christ's all time sacrifice for the sins of all mankind.


AN ANIMAL SACRIFICE WAS PERFORMED ONCE A YEAR FOR THAT YEAR'S SINS BY THE NATION ISRAEL WITH A VIEW TO THE ONCE FOR ALL TIME SACRIFICE OF JESUS CHRIST

An animal sacrifice was performed once a year for that year's sins by the nation Israel. Cp Heb 9:1-10.

In addition to the yearly setting aside of sins by the nation Israel, this yearly sacrifice was meant to look forward to and be symbolic of the Messiah Jesus Christ and His once for all time sacrifice for sins:

[Heb 9:13-15]:

(v. 13) "The blood of goats and bulls and the ashes of a heifer sprinkled on those who are ceremonially unclean sanctify them so that they are outwardly clean. [for that year, (v. 7)]

(v. 14) How much more, then, will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself unblemished to God, cleanse our consciences from acts that lead to death, so that we may serve the living God!

(v. 15) For this reason Christ is the Mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance - now that He has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant"

["first covenant" = meaning the first of the two covenants that the author continues to write about in chapter nine: The Mosaic Law, see verses 7:18, 28; 8:6-7; 9:1. The second covenant is the infinitely superior one: the grace gift of Christ's once for all time sacrifice for the sins of the whole world. Cp Gal 3:17-19]


[JP]

This is a picture of Jesus at the cross! When John the Baptist saw the Lord Jesus on the banks of the Jordan River, he said, “Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world” (John 1:29). So even in the law we see that man’s only hope to be right with God once and for all is Christ. True grace teaching esteems the moral excellencies of the law, but it will also make clear to us that no man can be justified by keeping the Ten Commandments so that we see our need for Christ.


[BSM]

It's amazing that John the Baptist announced Jesus as the Lamb of God Who takes away the sin of the world. You should have elaborated more on this passage to explain why Jesus is the only hope for eternal life and explained how the Law is not a feasible means to receive eternal life according to the Bible:


(Jn 1:29-34) JOHN THE BAPTIST BORE FURTHER WITNESS OF THE CHRIST WHEN HE SPOKE OF SEEING THE HOLY SPIRIT DESCENDING FROM HEAVEN LIKE A DOVE AND REMAINING UPON JESUS AS GOD'S CONFIRMATION TO JOHN THROUG H THIS REVELATION THAT JESUS WAS THE CHRIST, THE COMING MESSIAH. JOHN DID NOTKNOW JESUS AS THE CHRIST BEFORE THIS, BUT NOW JOHN DECLARES THAT THE CHRIST IS THE SON OF GOD AND THE ONE WHO BAPTIZES WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT IDENTIFYING THE BELIEVER WITH CHRIST AND HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS

(Jn 1:6 YLT) There came [into being, (cf. NASB)] a man - having been sent from God - whose name is John. (Jn 1:7 NKJV) This man came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all through Him [the Light of men, the Life, the Word, (Jn 1:1-4)] might believe, (Jn 1:8 YLT) that one was not the Light, but - that he might testify about the Light... (Jn 1:19 NKJV) Now this is the testimony of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, "Who are you?" (Jn 1:20 NKJV) He confessed, and did not deny, but confessed, "I am not the Christ." (Jn 1:21 NKJV) And they asked him, "What then? Are you Elijah?" He said, 'I am not." "Are you the Prophet?" And he answered, "No." (Jn 1:22 NKJV) Then they said to him, "Who are you, that we may give an answer to those who sent us? What do you say about yourself?" (Jn 1:23 NKJV) He said: "I am 'The voice of one crying in the wilderness: 'Make straight the way of the LORD,' as the prophet Isaiah said.' " (Jn 1:24 NKJV) Now those who were sent were from the Pharisees. (Jn 1:25 NAS) [And] they asked him, and said to him, "Why then are you baptizing, if you are not the Christ, nor Elijah, nor the Prophet?" (Jn 1:26 NKJV) John answered them saying, 'I baptize with water, but there stands One among you Whom you do not know (Jn 1:26b YLT) this One it is Who is coming after me, Who [has] been before me (Jn 1:27a YLT) of Whom I am not worthy that I may loose the cord of His sandal" (Jn 1:28 NAS) These things took place in Bethany beyond [lit., across] the Jordan where John was baptizing." (Jn 1:29 NKJV) The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, 'Behold! The Lamb of God Who takes away the sin of the world! (Jn 1:30 YLT) this is He concerning Whom I said, 'After me doth come a man, Who hath come before me, because He was before me:' (Jn 1:31 NKJV) I did not know Him; but that He should be revealed to Israel, therefore I came baptizing with water.' (Jn 1:32 NKJV)And John bore witness, saying, "I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and He remained upon Him. (Jn 1:33 NKJV) I did not know Him, but He who sent me to baptize with water said to me, 'Upon whom you see the Spirit descending, and remaining on Him, this is He Who baptizes with the Holy Spirit.' (Jn 1:34 NKJV) And I have seen and testified that this is the Son of God." ''' =

John the Baptist bore further witness of "the Christ" when he spoke of seeing the Spirit, meaning the Spirit of God, the Holy Spirit, (cf. Jn 1:33c), descending from heaven like a dove and remaining upon Jesus; evidently via direct revelation from God. John reiterates that, beforehand, he did not know Jesus as "the Christ." Then he explains that God, Who sent him to announce the coming of "the Christ," (Jn 1:6-9), revealed to him that he would see the Holy Spirit descending and remaining upon the Christ as confirmation that He was the Christ and that "this [was] He Who baptizes with the Holy Spirit," (Jn 1:33c). So John's revelation from God implies that the Holy Spirit will remain upon "the Christ" in His Humanity, as a permanent indwelling, evidently to aid Him in His mission as the atoning sacrifice for the sin of the world. The last phrase of Jn 1:33, "This is He [the Christ] Who baptizes with the Holy Spirit" implies that heretofore all believers will be baptized with the Holy Spirit which will remain on, i.e., remain in the believer as the Spirit remained on, i.e., remain in "the Christ." Since baptism signifies immersion into / an identification with something, then the Christ's baptism of individuals with the Holy Spirit signifies being immersed into the Holy Spirit to the extent of being identified with God's righteousness and holiness at the moment of faith alone in the Christ alone. This is the same as what John's water baptisms of Israelites symbolized at the time they believed. But the key difference between John the Baptist's water baptisms and the Christ's baptisms with the Holy Spirit are that John's are symbolic of the relationship with God which were established by faith through the work of the Holy Spirit, and the LORD's are the actual working of the Holy Spirit, Who will now remain upon, i.e., permanently indwell the individual as He did the Humanity of Jesus.

At the point of God's revelation to him of the Spirit descending upon Jesus, John the Baptist testified that He was "the Son of God" with the definite article, "the." The phrase "the Son of God," (Jn 1:34), which John the Baptist declared "the Christ" to be, describes "the Christ" as the unique Son of God. The meaning of the word "Son" refers to having the characteristics, the qualities of God. Hence He is both God and Perfect Man in an hypostatic union. This corroborates what author John and John the Baptist have been declaring in John chapter one: that "the Christ" is God, (Jn 1:1-3, 15, 30), Who has the characteristics and glory of God and as such makes God known to man, (Jn 1:14; 18); and Who, as God, is coming into the world in Human form, (Jn 1:23; Isa 40:3).

Furthermore, Paul explains grace very well without harping on the word 'true.' And there you go again about true grace. This phrase does not appear in Scripture. Why not just cite the word "grace?" And then find a passage such as Eph 2:8-9 to indicate what grace means relative to eternal life. It explains that you have been saved [perfect tense signifying that it is a moment in time not an ongoing faith or faithfulness] through faith [= acceptance as true, i.e., a mental assent as defined in the dictionary: hence nothing that you do to contribute to your salvation] and that [neuter = your salvation, not faith which is feminine] ... and that salvation is not of yourselves [again, you do nothing to get your salvation unto eternal life, i.e., it is non-contributory] it is a gift [i.e., you do nothing to get your salvation] not by works [again you do nothing to get your salvation] so that no one can boast. That's it. There is no word true needed here. There is so much misconception about what one must do to be saved that you must go to Scripture to prove out your point. Eph 2:8-9 does this.

Now on the matter of the Law; compare Gal 2:16 YLT: "having known also that a man is not declared righteous by works of law, [i.e. any human doing which includes the Law of Moses), if not through ... faith [in] Jesus Christ, also we in Christ Jesus did believe, that we might be declared righteous ... by faith [in] Christ, and not by works of law [any law including the Law of Moses], wherefore declared righteous by works of law shall be no flesh."

Refer to excerpt on Gal 3 above .

[JP]

TRUE GRACE CAUSES YOU TO MORE THAN FULFILL THE LAW

In the 1,500 years that God’s people lived under the law, not a single man (apart from our Lord Jesus) could obey the Ten Commandments perfectly and be justified. Listen carefully to what I am about to say. Under grace, when we experience the love of our Lord Jesus, we will end up fulfilling the law! Under true grace, we will end up being holy. Grace produces true holiness! As Apostle Paul boldly proclaimed, “Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law” (Rom. 13:10).

When the love of Jesus is in us, we can’t help but fulfill the law. When our hearts are overflowing with God’s grace and loving-kindness, we lose the desire to commit adultery, murder, bear false witness, or covet.

[BSM]

Where does it say in Scripture that believers will actually in their temporal mortal lives fulfill the Law by virtue of having their hearts overflowing with God's grace and loving-kindness and lose their desire to sin and thereby have moments of sinless perfection??? - Even surpass the righteousness of the Law??? No where. That is what believers are to strive for, but it is not a goal that will be reached in this life even for a moment!! (1 Jn 1:8, 10 ). God's grace is God's unmerited favor toward us despite how poorly we behave, especially relative here to His salvation unto eternal life. God's grace is not something that believers in this mortal life will express toward others for we are flawed individuals and incapable of expressing the unflawed grace  of God toward others until the next life when we will be in resurrection bodies - by the actions of God's grace and his grace alone. Furthermore, if believers demonstrate holiness, godly love, obedience to the Ten Commandments, or any of the commandments, demonstrating justified behavior commensurate with the Righteousness of God Himself, thus fulfulling the whole Law, not harming our neighbor as you suggest that is the believers own doing AND NOT GOD'S GRACE OPERATION!!!! Do you get that? Grace is God's crediting one with His Righteous behavior and in this mortal life it does not constitute equipping the believer with perfect sinless behavior on his experience. That's for the next life: eternal life. It is not about what the believer does, righteous or not. It is not the believers doing anything righteous / lawful in this life. It is either God crediting the believer with His Absolute Righteousness or the believer doing righteous things himself. It is one or the other! And the latter is not going to happen in this life.

Compare Ro 11:6:

(Ro 11:6 NKJV) "[But] if by grace, [then it is no longer of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace. But if it is of works, it is no longer grace; otherwise work is no longer work"

Notice that the words of Joseph Prince, "Under grace, when we experience the love of our Lord Jesus, we will end up fulfilling the law! Under true grace, we will end up being holy. Grace produces true holiness! As Apostle Paul boldly proclaimed, “Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the lawdemand godly behavior of the believer in a mortal body that constantly has sins to confess with no hope for ending up being holy, fulfilling the Law and even exceeding it in their mortal lives as Joseph Prince states in this article. This is a serious contradiction to Scripture as Ro 11:6 indicates above. There is simply no way that a believer's works - his lifestyle - can exemplify the grace of God in his mortal life in the sense that Joseph Prince defines grace which is not scriptural. For how a believer behaves does not necessarily reflect the grace of God. God's grace does not transform the believer in his mortal life to an individual who does not sin. If that were true - that as a result of the efforts, the works of the believer he achieves even moments of sinless perfection, this would cancel out the grace of God. For works cancel out the grace of God. Hence being holy and fulfilling the Law is out of the question on the part of the believer in his mortal life with or without the grace of God. I think that Joseph Prince misinterprets or ignores those passages that refer to God's promises to the believer to make them holy and blameless IN THE NEXT LIFE when they receive their resurrection bodies by the grace of God.

[JP]

We will have the power to love our neighbors as ourselves. Where does this power come from? From our being firmly rooted and established in the grace of God. We have the power to love, because He first loved us (see 1 John 4:19)!


[BSM]

Again, Joseph Prince's idea of the grace of God is NOT UNMERITED FAVOR GIVEN BY GOD TO AN UNDESERVED, SINFUL BELIEVER - THAT'S BIBLICAL. BUT HE THINKS THAT GOD'S GRACE EMPOWERS THE BELIEVER TO LIVE WITHOUT SIN, such as the believer acting under some kind of power which God's grace evidently gives to him to love his neighbors as himself. This is not in the Bible - that is the goal but will not be perfectly exemplified in the mortal life. Believers are with the guidance of the indwelling Holy Spirit to operate under their own power. This power is not demonstrated in Scripture as characteristic of any believer except to be contaminated by the sin nature within that believer. No believer can claim to love another with a perfect godly, agape, self-sacrificial love. For no believer can claim to be firmly rooted and established in the grace of God. It is the grace of God which provides forgiveness of the believer when he acts toward another in an UNLOVING manner which is all the time in his mortal life. For no believer can claim to have not sinned for even a moment in his mortal life and must confess his shortcomings and THEN be forgiven by the grace of God, (1 Jn 1:8-10). Just because God first loved us, does not mean that believers now have the power to express godly, agape, self-sacrificial love. That will come in the next life for believers when they receive their resurrection bodies.

[JP]


The fact is that when God’s people are under grace, not only do they fulfill the letter of the law, but they also exceed it or go the extra mile.

[BSM]

JP's statement "The fact that when God's people are under grace" means that believers are being afforded by God something they do not merit, i.e., they are meriting something by their own successful doing. But this cancels out God's grace entirely. So it is nonsensical to say "they fulfill the letter of the law." Believers never fulfill the letter of the law in this life - even for a moment. For man in his mortal life is flawed with a sin nature, (1 Jn 1:8-10); so much the more is it nonsensical for JP to write "but they also exceed it [the Law] or go the extra mile!!!" That's nonsense. God does not give the believer the gift of fulfilling the law in their mortal lives especially excelling it's righteousness; they are credited with the Righteousness of God, not transformed yet into perfect, sinless individuals. Neither in their deeds nor in their works can they fulfill the letter of the law in their experience, only in their position are they righteous, not their experience. Only in the next life, eternal life is a believer capable of being righteous in his experience. God's grace provides salvation unto eternal life based on a moment of faith alone and God's grace provides restoration of fellowship for a believer based on the moments when a believer confesses his known sins.

[JP]

The law commands us not to commit adultery, and there are people who can fulfill just the letter of the law and not commit adultery outwardly. However, inwardly, they have no love for their spouses. Grace changes all that. Grace doesn’t just deal with the surface; it goes deeper and teaches a man to love his wife as Christ loved the church. In the same way, the law can command us not to covet, but it has no ability to make us cheerful givers. Again, God’s grace goes beyond the superficial to inwardly transform our covetous hearts into hearts that are loving, compassionate, and generous.

[BSM]

Grace is God's unmerited favor toward a believer who falls short of the glory of God. Grace will not make a believer excel in righteousness in this mortal life- that's up to him to study God's Word, follow the leading of the Holy Spirit, etc. or not. God's gracious actions are to make provision for blessings that the believer does not deserve because of the believer's inevitable failings due to his constant submission to the sin nature within that causes him to choose the constant sinful propensities within instead of the godliness that the Spirit directs within. If God's grace changes the believer into an individual who does not sin, that would dismantle the believer's makeup which contains that sin nature and the inner man and make him into a robot. The believer is to choose to do righteous things of his own volition - and not have his actions force upon him overridding his free will; but then as it indicates in Scripture, he will interminably fall short of God's glory including the apostle Paul, (Ro chapters 6 & 7).


[JP]

 Remember the story of Zacchaeus in Luke chapter 19? Not a single commandment was given. Yet, when the love and grace of our Lord Jesus touched his heart, the once-covetous and corrupt tax collector wanted to give half of his wealth to the poor and repay fourfold every person he had stolen from. The love of money died when the love of Jesus came.

[BSM]


There is no indication that Zacchaeus was transformed into a wholly faithful believer who no longer coveted money, or committed any other sin. His one time faithful act is not stipulated as a permanent godly experience from then on in his mortal life; nor did his commendable faithful behavior include all other kinds of sin; nor was his faithful act necessarily without flaw:

 

Luke 19:1-10 (NASB)
1  He [Jesus] entered Jericho and was passing through.
2  And there was a man called by the name of Zaccheus; he was a chief tax collector and he was rich.
3  Zaccheus was trying to see who Jesus was, and was unable because of the crowd, for he was small in stature.
4  So he ran on ahead and climbed up into a sycamore tree in order to see Him, for He was about to pass through that w    ay.
5  When Jesus came to the place, He looked up and said to him, "Zaccheus, hurry and come down, for today I must stay at your house."
6  And he hurried and came down and received Him gladly.
7  When they saw it, they all began to grumble, saying, "He has gone to be the guest of a man who is a sinner."
8  Zaccheus stopped and said to the Lord, "Behold, Lord, half of my possessions I will give to the poor, and if I have defrauded anyone of anything, I will give back four times as much."
9  And Jesus said to him, "Today salvation has come to this house, because he, too, is a son of Abraham.
10  "For the Son of Man has come to seek and to save that which was lost."

1-4 Zacchaeus was a "chief tax collector" (architelones, v. 2), holding a higher office in the Roman tax system than Levi did (5:27-30). This system, under which an officer gained his income by extorting more money from the people than he had contracted to pay the Roman government, had evidently worked well for Zacchaeus. His location in the major customs center of Jericho was ideal. Being both a member of a generally despised group and wealthy, he is a notable subject for the saving grace of God. Observe the proximity of this story to that of the rich ruler, whose attitude toward wealth kept him from the Lord (18:27). Zacchaeus's desire to see Jesus, though commendable, was surpassed by the fact that Jesus wanted to see him.

5-6 Not only did he want to see Zacchaeus, Jesus had to stay with him—"I must stay at your house today" (v. 5). This divine necessity is stressed in Luke (see comment on 4:43). Luke also has the word "today," with its special meaning (see comment on 4:21). The reciprocity of the divine, sovereign call and the human response is striking (v. 6; cf. v. 10).


Expositor's Bible Commentary, The - Volume 8: Matthew, Mark, Luke.

A second person in Jericho came to faith in Jesus. Zacchaeus, like the blind man, was considered outside the normal Jewish system because of his activities for Rome as a tax collector (cf. 5:27; 18:9-14). Zacchaeus responded to Jesus' message in precisely the opposite way the rich ruler had responded (18:18-25). Zacchaeus, also wealthy (19:2), knew he was a sinner. When Jesus called on him, he responded with a greater enthusiasm than Jesus had asked for. This account is also a commentary on Jesus' words that with God all things are possible (18:25-27), for Zacchaeus was a wealthy person who found salvation.

19:1-4. This incident seems ludicrous. Here was Zacchaeus, a wealthy and probably influential man, running ahead of the crowd and climbing a sycamore-fig tree (cf. Amos 7:14) to get a chance to see... Jesus. Luke may have been presenting Zacchaeus' actions as a commentary on Jesus' words that unless people become like little children they cannot enter the kingdom of God (Luke 18:17).

19:5-6. Jesus already knew Zacchaeus' name and all about him. He instructed the tax man to come down immediately for Jesus wanted to stay at his house. This was more than Zacchaeus had hoped for, so he welcomed Him gladly. The word "gladly" (chairōn) is literally "rejoicing." Luke used this verb (and the noun chara) nine times (1:14; 8:13; 10:17; 13:17; 15:5, 9, 32; 19:6, 37) to denote an attitude of joy accompanying faith and salvation.

19:7-10. As usual, many complained (began to mutter) because Jesus had gone to be the guest of a "sinner" (cf. 15:1). But Zacchaeus stood up and voluntarily announced that he would give half of what he owned to the poor and repay fourfold all he had wronged. He publicly wanted the people to know that his time with Jesus had changed his life. Interestingly he parted with much of his wealth, similar to what Jesus had asked the rich ruler to do (18:22).

Jesus' words, Today salvation has come to this house, did not imply that the act of giving to the poor had saved Zacchaeus, but that his change in lifestyle evidenced his right relationship before God. Zacchaeus, a son of Abraham by birth, had a right to enter the kingdom because of his connection with Jesus. That was Jesus' mission—to seek and to save those who are lost (cf. 15:5, 9, 24).


The Bible Knowledge Commentary: An Exposition of the Scriptures by Dallas Seminary Faculty.


[JP]

In contrast, the rich young ruler in Luke chapter 18 came to our Lord Jesus boasting that he had kept all the commandments. This young man was probably expecting Jesus to compliment him on his law keeping, and was feeling really confident of himself. But notice what Jesus said to him. Instead of complimenting him, He said, “One thing you still lack” (see Luke 18:22). You see, every time we boast in our ability to be justified by the law, our Lord will point out an area we lack in. He told the young man to sell all that he had, give it to the poor, and follow Him. Jesus was giving him the very first commandment, “You shall have no other gods before Me,” (not even money) and look at what happened. The young ruler walked away sorrowful. He was not even able to give away one dollar! I believe the Holy Spirit placed these two stories side by side in Luke 18 and 19 to show us what boasting in the law produces and what the power of the Lord’s unconditional grace produces in people’s lives.


[BSM]

There is no indication that God's grace imbues power in the believer's mortal life in Scripture. Grace is unmerited favor, not imbued power in the believer's life. The rich young ruler was one of the majority of mankind who choose not to believe in Jesus' payment for his sins for his particular reasons. Others who reject Christ have their particular reasons. No point in editorizing this into something beyond what the context offers.


GROW FROM GLORY TO GLORY WITHOUT THE VEIL

God’s grace is not against God’s perfect and glorious law of the Ten Commandments. In fact, Apostle Paul says, “For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man” (Rom. 7:22). However, he goes on to say, “But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members” (Rom. 7:23). Can you see? The law of God is holy, just, and good, but it has no power to make you holy, just, and good.

[BSM]

And neither will God's grace provide power to the believer to make him holy, just and good in his mortal life, overring his free will. That will happen in the next life when he receives his resurrection body and God will make him blameless, . It's up to the believer to choose to do evil or good in his mortal life and rely on the grace of God for forgiveness and purification when he fails to receive forgiveness and purification from all unrighteousness when he confesses: 1 Jn 1:9, Ro 6 & 7. Just read it. No where does Ro 6 & 7 or anywhere else in Scripture provide the believer in his mortal life to make him holy, just and good. This is confirmed in 1 Jn chapter one. Read it


[JP]

Hear what Paul says in Romans 7:

Well then, am I suggesting that the law of God is sinful? Of course not! In fact, it was the law that showed me my sin. I would never have known that coveting is wrong if the law had not said, “You must not covet.” But sin used this command to arouse all kinds of covetous desires within me! If there were no law, sin would not have that power….the law itself is holy, and its commands are holy and right and good….Sin used what was good to bring about my condemnation to death….So the trouble is not with the law, for it is spiritual and good. The trouble is with me, for I am all too human, a slave to sin.”

—Romans 7:7–8, 12–14 NLT

[BSM]

Amen


[JP with blue font comments in brackets by BSM]
We learn from Paul that when we combine God’s perfect law with the flesh (the sin principle), the result is not holiness. It is, as Paul described, a life that is dominated by sin, condemnation, and death. In man’s flesh dwells no good thing and as long as we are in this mortal body, the sin principle in our flesh will continue to be stirred. But praise be to our Lord Jesus Christ, this doesn’t have to end in misery and hopelessness [in the temporal life?]. cause of what Jesus has accomplished on the cross, we can have the veil of the law removed, so that we can behold Jesus face-to-face and be gloriously transformed:
So if the old way, which has been replaced, was glorious, how much more glorious is the new, which remains forever!...But the people’s minds were hardened, and to this day whenever the old covenant is being read, the same veil covers their minds so they cannot understand the truth. And this veil can be removed only by believing in Christ….[Yet not in this life but in the next!!!!] So all of us who have had that veil removed can see and reflect the glory of the Lord. And the Lord—who is the Spirit—makes us more and more like him as we are changed into his glorious image. [Yet not in this life but in the next]

And the Lord—who is the Spirit—makes us more and more like him as we are changed into his glorious image. [In the next life]

—2 Corinthians 3:11, 14, 18 NLT

It is clear from God’s Word that the law stirs up our sinful nature, whereas grace produces true holiness. Holiness is all about becoming more and more like Jesus, and it comes about when the veil of the law is removed. When the veil is removed, we see our beautiful Savior face-to-face, and His glorious grace transforms us from glory to glory. The glorious gospel of grace always produces glorious lives. As we behold Jesus, we will grow from glory to glory and shine as a testament of the Lord’s goodness and moral excellencies.

                    

[BSM]

But not in our mortal life. We are not under law - true - and we are under grace - true. But God's grace in this life is not to provide our gloriously transformed resurrection bodies. That comes in the next life, Phil 3:20-21). Our moment of faith in Christ provides eternal life as our immediate present tense possession along with the promise, not the experience of an incorruptible body which will be received in the next life - which comes when we go to be with Jesus IN THE NEXT LIFE. DIDN'T YOU READ ROMANS CHAPTER 7 excerpted above? Even the apostle Paul had moment to moment difficulties in the Christian life - continually losing out to the sin nature within him. Our change into His glorious image is not so evident as believers struggle daily as it is delineated in Scripture.

Compare Phil 3:20-21 NASB:

20 "For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ,

21 Who will transform the body of our lowly condition into conformity with His glorious body, by the exertion of the power that He has even to subject all things to Himself."

Compare 1 Jn 3:2 NASB

(1 Jn 3:2 NASB) "Beloved, now we are children of God, and it has not appeared as yet what we will be. We know that when He appears, we will be like Him, because we will see Him just as He is."

Author John addresses his readers once more as "beloved" signifying that they are fellow born again children of God under God's care as their Father. The word picks up the thought of the previous verse that we believers are the objects of the agapE Love of the Father, Who regards and calls us His children.

The Greek word "nun" rendered "now" is in an emphatic position at the beginning of the verse, in second position: "Beloved, now we are children of God, and it has not appeared as yet what we will be." It signifies the present moment of our experience of being children of God who still have the capacity to sin, as compared to the future - portrayed as a future mystery with the words rendered "and it has not appeared as yet what we will be." Then author John goes on to say, "We know that when He appears we will be like Him," This has in view our resurrection to eternal life in eternal bodies with a new intrinsic capacity to view things through the righteous eyes of Jesus Christ within our being: "because we will see Him just as He is," having the capacity to do only the Righteousness of God, and not sin at all.

Even though the child of God can be manifested as such by doing acts of righteousness (1 Jn 2:29) - at least manifested to God, themselves and fellow believers - the 'visibility' he thus achieves does not consist of any physical aspect or characteristic of the manifestation of ones future glorified physical body. The physical transformation which all the children of God will have when the LORD appears will become evident at that time. Thus the world which deliberately chose not to know Jesus, sees nothing to mark us out as God's children at the present time, (cf. 1 Jn 3:1b).

Still, one thing is known about that transformation: "we shall be like Him." So when Christ appears "what we shall be" will 'appear' too, and since "we shall be like Him" - without a sin nature but with wholly Righteous natures, then we do not want to "be ashamed before Him" because we had been unlike Him until then:

1) [Ref. 1 Jn 2:28; 3:2]:

(1 Jn 2:28 NASB) "Now, little children, abide in Him, so that when He appears, we may have [bold assurance] and not shrink away from Him in shame at His [appearing]."

(1 Jn 3:2 NASB) "Beloved, now we are children of God, and it has not appeared as yet what we will be. We know that when He appears, we will be like Him, because we will see Him just as He is."

2) [Phil 3:20-21]:

(Phil 3:20 NASB) "For our citizenship is in heaven, from which also we eagerly wait for a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ;

(Phil 3:21 NASB) who will transform the body of our humble state into conformity with the body of His glory, by the exertion of the power that He has even to subject all things to Himself."

3) [1 Cor 15:49-54]:

(1 Cor 15:49 NASB) "Just as we have borne the image of the earthy, we will also bear the image of the heavenly.

(1 Cor 15:50 NASB) Now I say this, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.

(1 Cor 15:51 NASB) Behold, I tell you a mystery; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed,

(1 Cor 15:52 NASB) in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.

(1 Cor 15:53 NASB) For this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality.

(1 Cor 15:54 NASB) But when this perishable will have put on the imperishable, and this mortal will have put on immortality, then will come about the saying that is written, 'Death is swallowed up in victory.' "

So from the beginning of 1 Jn chapter 3, John's message is that believers are to be inspired to abide in Christ in view of His promise to them of their transformation to be like Him when He appears.

Note that the phrase rendered "because we will see Him just as He is," in 1 Jn 3:2b implies that the born again believer while in his mortal life still cannot see Jesus Christ as He is because he still has the sin nature which is an intrinsic part of him which contaminates his mind and constantly clouds over Who our Lord is - His absolutely Holy and Righteous character:

4) [Compare Ro 7:21-23]:

(Ro 7:21 NASB) "I find then the principle that evil is present in me, the one who wants to do good.

(Ro 7:22 NASB) For I joyfully concur with the law of God in the inner man,

(Ro 7:23 NASB) but I see a different law in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin which is in my members."

D) (1 Jn 3:3) CHILDREN OF GOD, BORN OF GOD, WHEN / WHILE THEY TRUST THAT WHEN CHRIST APPEARS THEY WILL BE JUST AS HE IS: IN AN ETERNAL RESURRECTION BODY WITH HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS, GOD PURIFIES THEM JUST AS JESUS CHRIST IS PURE - THEY ARE PURIFIED FROM ALL TEMPORAL UNRIGHTEOUSNESS

(1 Jn 3:1 NASB) "[Behold!] how great a love the Father has bestowed on us, that we would be called children of God; and .such we are. For this reason the world does not know us, because it did not know Him. (1 Jn 3:2 NASB) Beloved, now we are children of God, and it has not appeared as yet what we will be. We know that when He appears, we will be like Him, because we will see Him just as He is. (1 Jn 3:3 NASB) And everyone who has this hope fixed on Him purifies himself, just as He is pure." =

The phrase rendered "And everyone who has this hope fixed on Him" refers to those moments when a born again child of God has the sure hope of receiving eternal life and an eternal resurrection body like that of the risen Lord Jesus Christ when He appears - a sure hope based on the Character and the Capacity of God Himself, a sure hope which is fixed on Jesus Christ, His Son in the sense of trusting in His atonement for the sins of all mankind for forgiveness unto eternal life, (1 Jn 2:2) - an eternal life that includes an eternal resurrection body.

Note that a lifelong, continuous expression of the sure hope tantamount to sinless perfection is not in view in this passage. For the attainment of sinless perfection is not possible with mortal man, (1 Jn 1:8, 10).

The Greek word "elpida" rendered "hope" is not the same as in English. In the Greek it signifies a sure hope, not an indefinite possibility:

1) [Compare Titus 2:13]:

(Titus 2:13 NIV) "While we wait for the blessed hope [Elpida, Str. # 1680] - the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ"

Note that the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ is assured, i.e., it is a sure thing, a certainty of knowing Who God is. (Notice that Jesus Christ is called God). So the Greek word "Elpida" signifies a certain expectation - a sure hope, an event which is absolutely assured based on the absolute Power, Character, Holiness and Sovereignty of Almighty God - a sure hope.

2) [Eph 1:18-19]:

(Eph 1:18 NASB "I pray that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened, so that you will know what is the hope [Gk "elpis"] of His calling, what are the riches of the glory of His inheritance in the saints,

(Eph 1:19 NASB) and what is the surpassing greatness of His power toward us who believe. These are in accordance with the working of the strength of His might."

3) [Compare 1 Jn 5:13]:

(1 Jn 5:13 NASB) "These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life."

[In the phrase rendered, "so that you may know that you have eternal life," a sure hope of eternal life for those that believed in the name of the Son of God is implied]

4) [Compare Eph 1:13-14]:

(Eph 1:13 NASB) "In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation - having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise,

(Eph 1:14 NASB) who is given as a pledge of our inheritance, with a view to the redemption of God's own possession, to the praise of His glory."

[Notice that God the Holy Spirit seals the believer and becomes a deposit Who guarantees the redemption unto eternal life of those who are God’s possession - the very ones that the Holy Spirit marks into Christ and indwells and seals at the point when an individual believes implying a sure hope in ones salvation unto eternal life]

D cont.) (1 Jn 3:3 cont.) CHILDREN OF GOD, BORN OF GOD, WHEN / WHILE THEY TRUST THAT WHEN CHRIST APPEARS THEY WILL BE JUST AS HE IS: IN AN ETERNAL RESURRECTION BODY WITH HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS, GOD PURIFIES THEM JUST AS JESUS CHRIST IS PURE - THEY ARE PURIFIED FROM ALL TEMPORAL UNRIGHTEOUSNESS, (cont.)

(1 Jn 3:1 NASB) "[Behold!] how great a love the Father has bestowed on us, that we would be called children of God; and .such we are. For this reason the world does not know us, because it did not know Him. (1 Jn 3:2 NASB) Beloved, now we are children of God, and it has not appeared as yet what we will be. We know that when He appears, we will be like Him, because we will see Him just as He is. (1 Jn 3:3 NASB) And everyone who has this hope fixed on Him purifies himself, just as He is pure." (cont.) =

1 Jn 3:1 goes on to say that everyone - every child of God, born of God - who has this sure hope fixed on Jesus Christ of being resurrected unto eternal life in an eternal resurrection body purifies himself in the sense that when / while that child has this sure hope, it results in that child being purified - in being declared by God to be Righteous just as He is pure: purified unto the Righteousness of God Himself. Although no mortal with a flawed nature, a sin nature can actually purify himself, during those times that that child maintains a sure hope of eternal life fixed on Jesus Christ, that child in effect purifies himself, having prompted that response by the grace of God to declare him purified for that time.

Just as Abraham was accounted as Righteous when he believed in God's future promise to him of eternal life, so the child of God is accounted as purified when / while that child has the sure hope of eternal life fixed on Jesus Christ:

5) [Compare Ro 4:9b]:

(Ro 9b NASB) "For we say, 'Faith was credited to Abraham as Righteousness.' " [Gen 15:6] .

During those moments when the child of God trusts in the sure hope fixed on Jesus Christ of eternal life that includes an eternal resurrection body, he is credited by God with His temporal purification, much like the result of walking in the Light of God's Absolute Righteousness and confession of known sins which author John wrote of in 1 Jn 1:7, 9 which results in being cleansed by God from all [temporal] unrighteousness which is justified because of the blood of Jesus His Son, i.e., Jesus' atonement for the sins of all mankind - another way of saying that one's sure hope is fixed on Jesus Christ:

6) [1 Jn 1:7, 9]:

(1 Jn 1:7 NASB) "But if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, [One = God, with another = with each of we believers walking in the Light], and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin.

(1 Jn 1:9 NASB) If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."

So a man purifies himself not because of any intrinsic power or Righteous capacity within himself, but because the exercise of his faith - in the sure hope fixed upon Jesus Christ is the basis upon which God cleanses him - forgives him of all of his temporal unrighteousness up through the time that he exercises that faith.

Note that 1 Jn 3:3 is not saying that the child of God must conduct his life commensurate with the Righteousness of Jesus Christ in order to have the sure hope of eternal life and continue to be a born again child of God destined for eternal life. This unbiblical concept implies that the child of God must put away every defilement, and be like Him in Absolutely Sinless Purity and Godly Righteousness, as some contend. This would lead to the conclusion that to live in sin or disobedience to God's commands is to abandon any hope in Him of eternal life. But 1 Jn 1:8 and 10 indicate that to claim to be without sin is not truthful .

Note that the ongoing status of being a born again child of God and of having eternal security is not effected by whether or not the born again child is faithful or even continues in his mind to trust in the sure hope of eternal life and an eternal resurrection body. His eternal destiny depends solely upon God fulfilling His promise to His children of eternal life from the moment that they believed in His Son, (cf. 1 Jn 5:9-3) .

[JP]

GRACE DOES NOT MEAN AUTOMATIC SALVATION FOR ALL

When our Lord Jesus died at Calvary, He took all of humanity’s sins with one sacrifice of Himself at the cross. He took the judgment, punishment, and condemnation for every sin upon Himself. That’s the value of the one Man, Jesus. He is an overpayment for all our sins.

[BSM]

Scripture does not say "He is an overpayment for all our sins." Stop editorializing. Why not just read 1 Jn 2:1-2 for example:

1 John 2:1-2 (NASB)
1
 My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous;
2  and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world

[JP]

Now, does this mean everyone is automatically forgiven and saved?

Of course not! While everyone’s sin was paid for at Calvary, every individual needs to make a personal decision to receive forgiveness of all his sins by receiving Jesus as his personal Lord and Savior.

[BSM]

The bible does not teach "receiving Jesus as his personal Lord and Savior." That takes an effort on the part of an individual by requiring him to make an effort to make Jesus his personal Lord, i.e., that means faithful behavior. That's works which cancels out grace, (Ro 11:6): It only requires a moment of faith alone in Christ alone having paid for ones sins in order to have eternal life in the sense that one is personally forgiven of all of ones sins past, present and future . Just like hundreds of passages say in the Bible beginning with Jn 3:16, "For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son [for the sacrifice of sins for the whole world], that whoever believes [whoever is the believing one in that sacrifice] should never perish but have [present tense possession] of eternal life; as well as Eph 2:8-9. "For it is by grace you have been saved through faith and that [salvation] is not of oneself, it is the gift of God, not by works, so that no one can boast; and hundreds more 


[JP]

Any so-called “grace” teaching that teaches otherwise is counterfeit grace teaching. There is no other way to be saved except through Jesus and His shed blood. Look at what God’s Word says:

If you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.” For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him. For “whoever calls on the name of the LORD shall be saved.”

—Romans 10:9–13

There is no ambivalence in Scripture as to how a person becomes a born-again believer in Christ. To be saved, you have to confess with your mouth that Jesus is your Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead.

[BSM]

Wrong!

V) [Ro 10:9-10]:

(Ro 10:6 NAS) '''But the righteousness based on faith speaks as follows: "Do not say in your heart, 'Who will ascend into heaven?' (that is, to bring Christ down),

(Ro 10:7 NAS) or 'Who will descend into the abyss?' (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead).

(Ro 10:8 NAS) But what does it say? 'The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart' (that is, the word of faith which we are preaching,

(Ro 10:9 NAS) that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.

(Ro 10:10 Greek) "Kardia .......gar pisteuetai

..............................."With heart for .[one] believes (3sing pres)

eis ...........dikaiosunEn ...stomati ................de ....

to [for] .righteousness .with [the] mouth and

homologeitai .........................eis ...........sOtErian"

[one] confesses .(3sing pres) to [for] .salvation"

(Ro 10:10 NKJV) For with the heart [one] believes for righteousness, and with the mouth [one confesses] for salvation"

A) SALVATION FROM GOD'S ETERNAL WRATH UNTO THE RECEPTION OF ETERNAL LIFE IS RECEIVED WHEN ONE BELIEVES WITH THE HEART UNTO RIGHTEOUSNESS EVEN BEFORE ONE HAS A CHANCE TO CONFESS JESUS AS LORD

(Ro 3:21) '''But now a Righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. (Ro 3:22) This Righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, (Ro 3:23) for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, (Ro 3:24) and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus... (Ro 4:5 NAS) But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him Who justifies the ungodly, his faith is reckoned as righteousness. (Ro 4:23 NAS) Now not for his [Abraham's] sake only was it written that it was reckoned to him, (Ro 4:24 NAS) but for our sake also, to whom it will be reckoned, as those who believe in Him Who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead, (Ro 4:25 NAS) [He] who was delivered over because of our transgressions, and was raised because of our justification (Ro 5:8 ASV) But God commendeth his own love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. (Ro 5:9 NKJV) Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him...
(Ro 10:6 NAS) But the righteousness based on faith speaks as follows: "Do not say in your heart, 'Who will ascend into heaven?' (that is, to bring Christ down), (Ro 10:7 NAS) or 'Who will descend into the abyss?' (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead).
(Ro 10:8 NAS) But what does it say? 'The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart' (that is, the word of faith which we are preaching,
(Ro 10:9 NAS) that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. (Ro 10:10 NKJV) For with the heart [one] believes for righteousness, and with the mouth [one confesses] for salvation''' =

Just as in Ro 3:22; 4:3-5; 5:8-9, it is stipulated in Ro 10:10 that a Righteousness from God for eternal life is credited to one when one expresses a moment of faith alone in Jesus Christ alone to provide it through His blood sacrifice atonement for mankind's sins so that this righteousness results in qualifying one to be saved from God's eternal wrath for eternal life; . So the phrase "For with the heart one believes for righteousness," in Ro 10:10a has salvation from God's eternal wrath for eternal life received by a moment of faith alone even before one has a chance to confess Jesus as Lord. Note that the word rendered "heart" refers to an activity of the mind, expressed figuratively

B) ONLY AFTER ONE HAS EXPRESSED A MOMENT OF FAITH ALONE IN CHRIST ALONE TO RECEIVE AN ETERNAL RIGHTEOUSNESS FROM GOD UNTO ETERNAL LIFE IS ONE ENABLED TO  CONFESS JESUS AS LORD IN THE SENSE OF HIS SOVEREIGNTY OVER THEM AS LORD AND SAVIOR; OR IN THE SENSE OF ONES TEMPORAL LIFE ATTESTING TO BEING IN FELLOWSHIP AND FAITHFUL TO JESUS AS LORD

(Ro 3:21) "But now a Righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. (Ro 3:22) This Righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, (Ro 3:23) for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, (Ro 3:24) and are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. (Ro 25a NAS) Whom God displayed publicly as a propitiation in His blood through faith [for a display]. (Ro 25b NAS) This [display] was to demonstrate His righteousness, because in the forbearance of God He passed over the sins previously committed; (Ro 26 NAS) for the demonstration, I say, of His righteousness at the present time, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.... (Ro 9:30 NKJV) What shall we say then? That Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness of faith; (Ro 10:4 NKJV) For Christ is the end of ... law [rules of behavior] for righteousness to everyone who believes. (Ro 10:5 NAS) For Moses writes that the man who practices the righteousness which is based on law [will] live by that righteousness. (Ro 10:6 NAS) But the righteousness based on faith speaks as follows: "Do not say in your heart, 'Who will ascend into heaven?' (that is, to bring Christ down), (Ro 10:7 NAS) or 'Who will descend into the abyss?' (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead). (Ro 10:8 NAS) But what does it say? 'The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart' (that is, the word of faith which we are preaching, (Ro 10:9 NAS) that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. =

The phrase in Ro 10:9 rendered, "if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord" is a confession that having believed in Him for eternal life through a moment of faith alone in Him alone for paying for ones sins unto eternal life, that one acknowledges that Jesus is now positionally ones Lord and Savior in the sense of one being under His sovereign authority as God and Savior - a positional truth which may or may not be exemplified in the believer's life, depending upon that believer's faithfulness to Christ's Lordship. No matter what the case moment to moment in the believer's temporal life, Jesus is nevertheless his LORD and Savior, i.e., Sovereign God over that individual the moment that that individual becomes a believer. Note that all mankind is nevertheless subject to Christ's Lordship whether one knows this or not, or obeys Him or not. And there will be a time when He will bring to bear His Absolute authority upon all mankind, (Rev 17:14; 19:16).

On the other hand, relative to the believer's temporal life: in order for a believer to confess Jesus as Lord of his temporal life at a particular moment in time, an individual believer's lifestyle must be compatible at that moment with the Righteousness of Jesus Christ and His Lordship over his life. That believer must be exemplifying faithfulness in his temporal life. There cannot be any unrighteousness, (sin), for which that individual believer is held accountable at the time of confession of Him as Lord of his temporal life. The dilemma is that since all men have sinned and continually fall short of the glory of God - even as believers, (Ro 3:23; 1 Jn 1:8-10), no individual can of his own accord confess Jesus as Lord in the sense that he is acting faithfully to Him in his mortal / temporal life. He needs the grace of God to provide that temporal righteousness for him through ongoing confession of his shortcomings as he strives to be obedient to the doctrines of the faith that he has learned, .

But now there is a unique moment in the believer's life. At the moment of faith alone in Christ alone, a saved individual is not only justified, i.e., credited with an eternal Righteousness from God, (Ro 3:21-26), which forgives all of that individual's sins - past, present and future, relative to eternal life forever; but at that first moment of faith alone in Christ alone which includes an admission of ones sinfulness, that individual is cleansed from all unrighteousness in his temporal life as well; whereupon that individual is for the moment in a position of temporal righteousness and fellowship with God by the grace of God. At that time the new born believer can confess Jesus as Lord by the grace of God in an eternal position and also relative to his temporal life - until he sins again; whereupon he needs to confess again for temporal forgiveness,   - his eternal forgiveness remaining forever intact.

Although eternal life is secure forever at the moment of faith alone in Christ alone on account of its eternality through our Lord's once for all atonement for sins, past, present and future for all mankind, (Ro 3:21-26 ); nevertheless, as the believer conducts his temporal life before God under the authority of His sovereign Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ in a manner which object is to be faithful to Christ's Lordship over him such that he is continually confessing his sins to God; then temporal forgiveness and purification from all temporal sins will be the result along with temporal blessings, such as living out the appointed years of ones temporal life, fellowship with the Lord and eternal rewards . And when believers confess Jesus as Lord in the sense of declaring that the believer's salvation is through faith in Christ alone Whose position is Lord and Savior over them regardless of how they conduct their temporal lives, they also benefit from an ongoing temporal salvation: that of deliverance unto blessings in this life and rewards in eternity. So in view are acknowledgments by the believer which are two different but closely related Lordships - one an eternal position, the other temporal blessings and eternal rewards for declaring that the believer's salvation is through faith in Christ alone Whose position is Lord and Savior over them regardless of how they conduct their temporal lives; or for ongoing attempts to be faithful accompanied by ongoing confession of sins.

C) THE WORD OF FAITH WHICH PAUL AND OTHERS WERE PREACHING TEACHES THAT AN INDIVIDUAL WHO CONFESSES WITH HIS MOUTH JESUS AS LORD AND BELIEVES IN HIS HEART (MIND) THAT GOD RAISED JESUS FROM THE DEAD, I.E., A BELIEVER WHO IS ACKNOWLEDGING BUT NOT NECESSARILY FAITHFUL TO THE LORDSHIP OF JESUS CHRIST, WILL BE SAVED FROM TEMPORAL DESTRUCTION AND PREMATURE PHYSICAL DEATH AND RECEIVE ETERNAL REWARDS FOR THAT ACKNOWLEDGMENT

(Ro 4:23 NAS) '''Now not for his [Abraham's] sake only was it written that it was reckoned to him, (Ro 4:24 NAS) but for our sake also, to whom it will be reckoned, as those who believe in Him Who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead, (Ro 4:25 NAS) [He] who was delivered over because of our transgressions, and was raised because of our justification... (Ro 10:4 NKJV) For Christ is the end of ... law [rules of behavior] for righteousness [for eternal life] to everyone who believes... (Ro 10:6 NAS) But the righteousness based on faith speaks as follows: "Do not say in your heart, 'Who will ascend into heaven?' (that is, to bring Christ down), (Ro 10:7 NAS) or 'Who will descend into the abyss?' (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead). (Ro 10:8 NAS) But what does it say? 'The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart' (that is, the word of faith which we are preaching, (Ro 10:9 NAS) that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. (Ro 10:10 NKJV) For with the heart [one] believes for righteousness, and with the mouth [one confesses] for salvation" ''' =

Notice that the conjunction "that" which joins Ro 10:8 with Ro 10:9,

(v. 8) " 'The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart' (that is, the word of faith which we are preaching, (v. 9 NAS) that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart (mind) that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved,"

continues the context of Ro 10:1-8 into verse 9. In verse 9 Paul specifically stipulates that salvation - a salvation / deliverance [Gk homologEsEs = save / preserve] from temporal destruction and from premature physical death of a believer results when he confesses with his mouth to others Jesus as Lord. For this is a statement of fact, a positional truth of the sovereignty of Jesus as sovereign Lord over the person of the believer. On the other hand, it does not necessarily indicate that the believer has demonstrated a faithful walk with Christ at each moment of the confession.

The Greek word "homologEsEs" in the phrase:

"ean homologEsEs en ....tO stomati sou ..kurion Iesoun"

"If ...you confess ....with the mouth .your Lord ...Jesus"

rendered "If you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord" in the NAS in Ro 10:9 comes from the root words 'homos' meaning 'same' (from which we get the English word homogeneous), and the Greek word 'logo' meaning 'to speak'. The word literally means to say the same thing, i.e., to acknowledge what is already understood and thus on the heart = the mind, that Jesus is Lord of ones life - an eternal positional statement of the sovereignty of Jesus Christ over ones life, i.e., His Lordship - which is not necessarily reflective of the believer being faithful at the moment of this positional confession.

On the other hand, relative to the believer's temporal life: in order for a believer to confess Jesus as Lord of his temporal life at a particular moment in time, an individual believer's lifestyle must be compatible at that moment with the Righteousness of Jesus Christ and His Lordship over his life in order to receive more salvation / temporal deliverance & blessing - resulting in eternal rewards. That believer must be exemplifying faithfulness in his temporal life. There cannot be any unrighteousness, (sin), for which that individual believer is held accountable at the time of confession of Him as Lord of his temporal life. The dilemma is that since all men have sinned and continually fall short of the glory of God - even as believers, (Ro 3:23; 1 Jn 1:8-10), no individual can of his own accord confess Jesus as Lord in the sense that he is acting faithfully to Him in his mortal / temporal life. He needs the grace of God to provide that temporal righteousness for him through ongoing confession of his shortcomings as he strives to be obedient to the doctrines of the faith that he has learned, . Note all believers already have eternal righteousness via one moment of faith alone in Christ alone unto justification / salvation unto eternal life.

Since unbelievers have sinned and continually fall short of the glory of God as all men do, (cf. Ro 3:23), and since they do not have the righteousness from God credited to their account because they never believed on Christ to receive it, then unbelievers cannot confess Jesus as Lord at any time. Unbelievers must become believers via a moment of faith alone in Christ alone to be credited with an eternal righteousness from God for eternal life (cf. Ro 3:21-24). Then they will be in a position to confess Jesus as Lord - a positional statement as well as a moment to moment temporal statement, the latter as they endeavor to obey the doctrines of the faith and confess their shortcomings moment to moment.

The second and third phrases of Ro 10:9, ("that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord,) and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved," corroborate that believers only are in view. For to believe that Jesus was raised by God from the dead implies that the individual believes that an eternal righteousness from God for eternal life will come through a moment of faith alone in Christ alone, i.e., the sacrifice of His life for sins wherein God then raised Him from the dead as proof of that sacrifice, (cf. Ro 4:23-25). This is corroborated by Ro 10:4 and 10:10 where ones faith in Christ provides a righteousness from God for eternal life, (cf. Ro 3:21-24).

D) VERSE 10 EXPLAINS VERSE 9 MORE SPECIFICALLY AND IN THE PROPER SEQUENTIAL ORDER:

IN ROMANS 10:10, TWO KINDS OF SALVATION CONTINUE TO BE IN VIEW: (1) SALVATION FROM ETERNAL DESTRUCTION, (ETERNAL DEATH), VIA A MOMENT OF FAITH ALONE IN CHRIST ALONE TO RECEIVE A RIGHTEOUSNESS FROM GOD UNTO ETERNAL LIFE; (2) TO BE FOLLOWED BY A SALVATION FROM TEMPORAL DESTRUCTION AND FROM PREMATURE PHYSICAL DEATH VIA CONFESSION WITH ONES MOUTH JESUS AS LORD - A POSITIONAL STATMENT WHICH EXPRESSION MAY OR MAY NOT REFLECT BEING FAITHFUL TO THE LORDSHIP OF JESUS CHRIST MOMENT TO MOMENT

(Ro 4:23 NAS) "Now not for his [Abraham's] sake only was it written that it was reckoned to him, (Ro 4:24 NAS) but for our sake also, to whom it will be reckoned, as those who believe in Him Who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead, (v. 4:25 NAS) [He] who was delivered over because of our transgressions, and was raised because of our justification... (Ro 10:4 NKJV) For Christ is the end of ... law [rules of behavior] for righteousness to everyone who believes... (Ro 10:6 NAS) But the righteousness based on faith speaks as follows: "Do not say in your heart, 'Who will ascend into heaven?' (that is, to bring Christ down), (Ro 10:7 NAS) or 'Who will descend into the abyss?' (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead). (Ro 10:8 NAS) But what does it say? 'The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart' (that is, the word of faith which we are preaching, (Ro 9 NAS) that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. (Ro 10:10 NKJV) For with the heart [one] believes for righteousness, and with the mouth [one confesses] for salvation" ''' =

(Ro 10:10 Greek) "Kardia .......gar pisteuetai

..............................."With heart for .[one] believes (3sing pres)

eis ...........dikaiosunEn ...stomati ................de ....

to [for] .righteousness .with [the] mouth and

homologeitai .........................eis ...........sOtErian"

[one] confesses .(3sing pres) to [for] .salvation"

Verse 10 explains verse 9 more specifically and in the proper sequential order: first, one believes to receive the righteousness from God for eternal life corroborating that believing that God raised Christ from the dead in verse 9 implies one has expressed faith that Christ paid the penalty for ones sins to receive an eternal righteousness from God for eternal life, (cf. Ro 4:23-25 ); then one can confess with the mouth Jesus as Lord either to acknowledge Jesus' eternal sovereign position of authority over one and / or to acknowledge ones fellowship / endeavors to be faithful to Jesus as Lord with ongoing confession of sins () for the result of a salvation from temporal destruction, premature physical death unto blessings in this life and eternal rewards .

Notice that two kinds of salvation / deliverance are in view: (1) Salvation from eternal destruction, (death), via a moment of faith alone in Christ alone to receive an eternal righteousness from God for eternal life; and (2) salvation from temporal destruction and premature physical death unto eternal rewards and temporal blessings via confession with ones mouth Jesus as Lord, a positional statement which expression may or may not reflect being faithful to the Lordship of Jesus Christ, albeit faithful by the grace of God through ongoing confessions of sins ()

[JP]

Therefore, if any “grace” teacher tells you that you don’t need to receive Jesus as your Lord and Savior in order to be saved because there are “other ways,” he or she is being scripturally inaccurate.

[BSM]

The Bible teaches everywhere that to have eternal life one must believe that Jesus died for ones sins. That's it. Stop editorializing!!! You don't need to receive Jesus as your Lord and Savior, that could mean any number of things such as attempting to behave in a godly manner which is works. Salvation is by grace through faith in Christ's payment for ones sins. Accepting Jesus as Savior may also mean a number of things - such as saved or delivered from some difficulty. The issue of Christ's payment for ones sins is essential and must not be bypassed. Compare Jn 1:12-13 with Jn 3:16: believe that Christ the one and only Son of God died / was given to pay for the sins of the world.


[JP]

Jesus is the only way. There is no salvation without Jesus. There is no forgiveness without the cleansing blood of Jesus. There is no assurance that all our sins have been forgiven without the resurrection of Jesus. Salvation is found in Jesus and Jesus alone!

[BSM]

Amen. With one proviso. Jesus paid for the sins of all mankind, but not all mankind are forgiven of their sins. Forgiveness of sins is afforded only to those who believe that He paid for ones sins. But why not quote from the Bible INSTEAD OF EDITORIALIZING THE BIBLE WITH YOUR OWN PASSAGE. Try quoting the Bible!!!

Suggestions: And then explain / teach what it says to others.

For example,

Acts 10:43 NASB "All the prophets testify of Him, that through His name everyone who believes in Him receives forgiveness of sins.”

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And there are some key verses in 1 Cor 15 which speak of Christ's essential resurrection

And don't forget Ro 3 especially vv. 21-26:

21 But now God has shown us how to become right with him. The Law and the Prophets give witness to this. It has nothing to do with obeying the law. 22 We are made right with God by putting our faith in Jesus Christ. That happens to all who believe. It is no different for the Jews than for anyone else. 23 Everyone has sinned. No one measures up to God’s glory. 24 The free gift of God’s grace makes all of us right with him. Christ Jesus paid the price to set us free. 25 God gave him as a sacrifice to pay for sins. So he forgives the sins of those who have faith in his blood. God did all of that to prove that he is fair. Because of his mercy he did not punish people for the sins they had committed before Jesus died for them. 26 God did that to prove in our own time that he is fair. He proved that he is right. He also made right with himself those who believe in Jesus.


[JP]

I am also aware that there are counterfeit grace preachers who teach that everyone, even Satan and his fallen angels, will one day in the ages to come be saved. Because of this belief, they also teach that hell isn’t a real place of everlasting punishment. These people take an extreme position on God’s love to the exclusion of His righteousness and judgment, refusing to believe what the Scriptures clearly teach about eternal torment in hell for the unsaved. This is not the gospel of grace.

ARE ONLY OUR PAST SINS FORGIVEN?

Coming back to forgiveness of sins, the real gospel tells us that the moment we invite Jesus into our hearts and confess Him as our Lord and Savior, all our sins—past, present, and future—are forgiven.

[BSM]

Amen to all of the above except you don't "invite Jesus into our hearts and confess Him as our Lord and Savior" in order to have eternal life; and the words "counterfeit grace" do not appear in the Bible. Find another expression and a passage which explains what you mean. These things are too confusing for your listeners to get an accurate and biblical understanding without a bible passage cited and an explanation provided from a writer of Scripture. Makeshift explanations must be avoided, careful substantiation from God's Word is essential.

There are no places in Scripture which say these phrases. The Bible reads in numerous places that you simply believe that God gave His one and only Son [to pay for the sins of the whole world which includes yourself and thereby you immediately have present tense possession of eternal life signifying that you have been forgiven of all of your sins, past, present and future - Jn 3:16 et al. Inviting is a work because it is proactive toward securing the result of receiving eternal life. On the other hand believing in something which is passive / not proactive in what Christ did on the cross for one - all of mankind. Furthermore, inviting Jesus into ones heart is not accurate. Jesus does not occupy the believer's heart when he becomes saved unto eternal life. It is the Holy Spirit Who comes into your human spirit.  and confess is a work, and testifying that Jesus is your Lord indicating that you are being faithful to His Lordship of you is a work. Works cancel out the grace basis for salvation thus you don't get to be saved by works at all! Ro 11:6 NASB "But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works, otherwise grace is no longer grace."

[JP]

To understand the total forgiveness of sins, we have to understand the value of the person who sacrificed Himself on the cross for us. Jesus alone, because He was the sinless Son of God, could pay for every sin of every man who would ever live with just a one-time sacrifice of Himself.

But there are teachings that suggest that when we receive Jesus, only our past sins are forgiven—our future sins are forgiven as we confess them and ask God for forgiveness. This simply contradicts the Scriptures, as we shall see.

Ephesians 1:7 states, “In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of His grace.” In the original Greek text, the verb for “have” is in the present tense, which indicates durative action, meaning we are continually having forgiveness of sins, including every sin we will ever commit.1

First John 2:12 says, “I write to you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for His name’s sake.” The Greek perfect tense is used here for “are forgiven,” meaning this forgiveness is a definite action completed in the past, with the effect continuing into the present.2 This means that God’s forgiveness avails for us in our present and continues into our future.

Let me give you another clear Scripture that states that all our sins, including our future sins, have been forgiven:

You were dead because of your sins and because your sinful nature was not yet cut away. Then God made you alive with Christ, for he forgave all our sins. He canceled the record of the charges against us and took it away by nailing it to the cross.

—Colossians 2:13–14 NLT

Jesus forgave all our sins. The word “all” in the above Scripture is the Greek word pas, meaning “every kind or variety…the totality of the persons or things referred to.”3 It refers to “all, any, every, the whole.”4 So “all” means all.

 

God’s forgiveness of our sins covers every sin—past, present, and future! When we received the Lord Jesus as our Savior, we received the total and complete forgiveness of all our sins.


[BSM]

Amen - glad to see this kind of biblical support, except for one detail that needs clarification: how do you receive Jesus? Will you please get used to using the word believe. Receive means believe in Jn 1:12-13, but many people add more than believe to the word receive such as receiving him as Lord which involves some kind of proactive action, i.e., works which cancels out God's Grace and destroys the reception of eternal life. BTW "have been forgiven" not "are forgiven" is the correct translation signifying a completed action at a point in time with ongoing results forever.


FURTHER BTW 1 Jn 1:7 is about temporal forgiveness not eternal forgiveness, the former providing restoration of a believer's fellowship with God which context is laid out for you from the beginning of the letter; the latter a one time eternal forgiveness unto eternal life at the point of faith alone in Christ alone for eternal life forgiveness.


[JP]

Our role as ministers of God is to impart to our people the confident assurance of their salvation and forgiveness that is found in Christ. It is not to teach a mixed message that deposits insecurity and uncertainty in their hearts, leaving them wondering if they are truly forgiven and if the work of their Savior at the cross is complete. Assurance of salvation and total forgiveness of sins form the foundation of the good news we preach. I submit to you that this revelation of the good news of God’s forgiveness doesn’t lead one to live wantonly. Jesus Himself said that those who are forgiven much will love Him much. It is those who are forgiven little (actually, these creatures do not exist because all of us have been forgiven much)—or I should say, those who think they have been forgiven little—who will love Him only a little.

[BSM]

The words above rendered, "I submit to you that this revelation of the good news of God’s forgiveness doesn’t lead one to live wantonly. Jesus Himself said that those who are forgiven much will love Him much. It is those who are forgiven little (actually, these creatures do not exist because all of us have been forgiven much)—or I should say, those who think they have been forgiven little—who will love Him only a little" are not in the Bible or words to that effect / context. Hence we have the epistles to believers in this age who are admonished to be faithful, especially 1 Jn 1:7-9 which indicate that believers continually sin and need provision for temporal forgiveness, (not eternal because all sins relative to eternal life are forgiven, past, present and future at the point of faith alone in Christ alone, Acts 10:43; Jn 3:16 et al).

 

[JP]

My prayer is that everyone who hears us preach the true gospel of grace will hear just how complete God’s forgiveness is toward those who would receive His Son, Jesus Christ. It will surely lead them to fall deeper in love with Jesus and produce a life of praise, honor, and glory unto Him.


[BSM]

There is no such thing as the true gospel of grace stipulated in the Bible - those words as such do not appear in God's Word. It is simply the gospel. Follow what Paul and other bible writers say what the gospel is, not the words you have imposed upon the Bible with your own personal unbiblical meaning. See excerpt below from Ro 3. Why not say "believe" instead of receive because many have an unbiblical idea of what receive means!!!!! Just go and check Jn 1:12-13. Quote Acts 10:43 and Jn 3:16 for starters. And then stipulate believe in Christ's payment for your sins and that alone for forgiveness of sins unto eternal life!!!!! So let's be clear about this.

Also, there is no guarantee in Scripture that believers in this age will "fall deeper in love with Jesus and produce a life of praise, honor, and glory unto Him." Even in the first century believers struggled in their mortal lives. There were moments of faithfulness and moments of struggle even suffering. Hence the epistles which presume that believers will struggle in their temporal lives resulting in discipline, suffering and difficulties. Prepare your people, Pastor Prince for this especially by focusing on those epistles!

Compare Phil 1:29 NASB "For to you [the saints in Christ Jesus, (v. 1)] it has been granted for Christ's sake, not only to believe in Him, but also to suffer for His sake."


******* EXCERPT FROM RO 3 ******

A) THERE IS ONLY ONE GOSPEL AND ONE GOD FOR ALL MANKIND WHO WILL JUSTIFY THE JEW AND THE GENTILE THROUGH A MOMENT OF FAITH ALONE IN CHRIST ALONE

 

(v. 1:16) "I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile. (v. 3:21) But now an eternal righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. (v. 3:22) This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, (v. 3:23) for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, (v. 3:24) and are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. (v. 3:29) Is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles too? Yes, of Gentiles too, (v. 3:30) since there is only one God, who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through that same faith." =

 

Paul declares that there is only one gospel and one God for all mankind Who will justify the Jew and the Gentile through a moment of faith alone in Christ alone. At the beginning of Paul's epistle he established in vv. 1:16-17 that the gospel is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes, first for the Jew and then the Gentile, which encompasses all mankind. This theme is reiterated in vv. 3:22-24: "This righteousness from God, [the gospel] comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe [i.e., any individual of mankind]. Hence Paul declares that there is only one way to eternal life, one gospel; and one God Who is the God of the Jew and the Gentile alike, i.e., all mankind, because His power is over all mankind. This message is repeated in vv. 3:29-30.

******* END OF EXCERPT FROM RO 3 ******

[JP]

WHAT ABOUT THE CONFESSION OF SINS?

When I preach that all our sins have been forgiven and that we are perpetually under the fountain of the ever-cleansing blood of Jesus, another question I’m often asked is, What about the confession of sins spoken of in 1 John 1:9? The verse says clearly, “If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” Don’t we have to confess our sins in order to be forgiven and cleansed of all unrighteousness?


[BSM]

Yes, temporal / moment to moment forgiveness of sins is in view for the believer who already has eternal life. So the forgiveness of sins is not for eternal life - because confession on the part of the individual is in view, and eternal is not received by anything that the individual does proactively = participating in order to get eternal life. Believing is passive and not proactive. Otherwise the individual is attempting to do some kind of work in order to be saved unto eternal life.

Ro 11:6 NASB "But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works, otherwise grace is no longer grace." You cannot work your way unto eternal life through confession.

In this temporal life, believers are accountable to God for their behavior. Confession of sins is God's gracious way of restoring a believer not to eternal life - that's already been settled, but to fellowship - blessings in this temporal life and rewards when they get to heaven. So we have to verify this in a careful reading of 1 Jn chapter one.


****** EXCERPT FROM STUDY OF 1 JN 1 ******



C) (1 Jn 1:1-4) WHAT JOHN AND FELLOW APOSTLES HAVE SEEN AND HEARD THEY PROCLAIM ALSO TO JOHN'S READERS / AND ALL CHILDREN OF GOD, BORN OF GOD SO THAT THEY TOO MAY HAVE FELLOWSHIP WITH THE APOSTLES AND INDEED THE APOSTLES' FELLOWSHIP IS WITH THE FATHER AND WITH HIS SON JESUS CHRIST, WHICH FELLOWSHIP READERS / AND ALL CHILDREN OF GOD, BORN OF GOD MAY HAVE AS WELL - THIS IS THE STATED PURPOSE OF THE EPISTLE

(1 Jn 1:1 YLT) "That which was from the beginning, that which we have heard, that which we have seen with our eyes, that which we did behold [in the sense of gazed intently upon], and our hands did handle, concerning the Word of ... Life - (1 Jn 1:2 NASB) and [indeed] the Life was manifested, and we have seen and testify and proclaim to you the Eternal Life, which was with the Father and was manifested to us - (1 Jn 1:3 NASB) "what we have seen and heard we proclaim to you *also, so that you too may have fellowship with us; and indeed our fellowship is with the Father, and with His Son Jesus Christ. (1 Jn 1:4 NASB) These things we write, so that our joy may be made complete." =

Of all the children of God, born of God John probably was the one who could understand and appreciate what this kind of fellowship could mean. He was one of the "inner circle," along with Peter and James, who had enjoyed special privileges; for example, witnessing the transfiguration of Jesus. He was very close to Jesus, possibly more than the other apostles (note in 1:1 how he refers to that relationship). He is referred to as "one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved" (John 13:23) and sat next to the Lord at the Last Supper. But he had enjoyed that fellowship for only a little more than 3 years; now he could enjoy it continually through the Spirit.

So John wrote that through what he and fellow apostles have heard, seen with their eyes, and gazed intently upon, and their hands have handled have thereby attained, he proclaims should be the goal of his readers / and all children of God, born of God - that through ones faith in Jesus Christ - the Eternal Life - one may also have (Greek "echEte," present tense), signifying having an ongoing fellowship with the apostles, (and with all children of God, born of God). And indeed - all the more - the fellowship that John and fellow apostles have with one another and with the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ, all children of God, born of God may also have with John and fellow apostles, with the Father and His Son and with one another - all part of the unity of all children of God, born of God through their faith in Jesus Christ.

[The First Epistle of John, Walking in the Light of God's Love, Zane Hodges, Grace Evangelical Society Publishers, Irving, Texas, 1999, pp. 51-52]:

"[The phrase rendered] "fellowship with us" into which author John invites the readers involves sharing the apostles' own "fellowship .... with the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ." This is a stunning claim. The author of the epistle is stating that he is part of a circle so intimate with God that if one has "fellowship with" his circle, one also has "fellowship with" God "the Father and with His Son!" But the claim is no more amazing than the one he also makes in 4:6: "We [apostles] are of God. He who knows God hears us; he who is not of God does not hear us."

The modern world, with its skepticism and unbelief, has virtually lost its respect for apostolic authority. To the modern and postmodern scholar, the apostles were mere creatures of their own, prescientific age.

Their viewpoints have no more authority than the modern mind feels willing to grant them, and the enlightened scholar of today always knows more than these 'ignorant and unlearned' men did.

But the biblical point of view is different. In the Christian faith, all claims to truth must be tested at the bar of apostolic authority. What the apostles said as representatives of a Risen Lord carried all the authority of the Lord Himself. To refuse to hear the apostles was to refuse to hear God Himself. In the same way, to be "out of fellowship" with apostolic thought and practice was to be "out of fellowship ... with the Father and the Son." There is no form of true Christian "fellowship" outside of apostolic truth, since the New Testament message is nothing more nor less than the truth which the Lord Jesus revealed to His apostles and which He commanded them to teach to us (John 14:26-26; Matthew 28:18-20).

[Note that a diligent study of Scripture, whether New Testament or Old Testament, in accordance with proper rules of language, context and logic results in a message from the apostles and Old Testament authors that is non-contradictory throughout, that perfectly fulfills every detail of prophecy so far, that has no spelling, grammatical, geographical or historical errors that can be substantiated; hence Scripture throughout corroborates the testimony of each of the apostles and each of the Old Testament authors as wholly reliable]

[Hodges, cont.]:

It is noteworthy, however, that in offering to share the apostolic experience with his readers, John mentions only "that which we have seen and heard." He does not repeat two ideas found in verse 1, namely, "which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled." The word translated "looked upon" (Greek: etheasametha) can suggest "the thought of attentive, careful regard, as in Mt 11:7. Since here this word follows the more common word, "seen," it is likely that John intended the more intensive sense, as we might say, "which we gazed at." Of the four words in verse 1 ("heard... seen... looked upon ... handled"), the first two, which are repeated in verse 3, are in the Greek perfect tense, while the last two, not repeated in verse 3, are in the aorist tense.

Although commentators are often guilty of overrefinement in handling the Greek tenses, the change of tense in verse 1 appears to be deliberate. The thought of "sharability" most likely underlines this shift of tense. In this context the verbs in the perfect imply the ongoing sharability of the experience of the apostles, while the two aorist verbs carry no such connotation. This explains why, in the present verse, [1 Jn 1:3], John speaks only of "that which we have seen and heard" as the basis of his shared "fellowship" with the readers.

Thus the apostles really could not share the experience of "gazing at" and "handling" the manifested Life. But they could share whatever was "seen" or "heard." And while all Christian "fellowship" with God must lie within the parameters of what the apostles saw and heard, the apostolic experience as a whole cannot be fully shared in this life. We must wait until we are in the presence of the Lord to "gaze at" or "handle" Him! But that is clearly something to look forward to."

The Greek word "koinOnian" rendered "fellowship" in vv. 3 and 6 means having communion with one another with an emphasis on the closeness of the relationship - a readiness to share. This "koinOnian" is a sense of unity amongst all the children of God, born of God with and through God the Father and His Son, Jesus Christ - the Eternal Life.

1) [Compare Phil 2:1-8]:

(Phil 2:1 NASB) "If therefore there is any encouragement in Christ, if there is any consolation of love, if there is any fellowship of the Spirit, if any affection and compassion,

(Phil 2:2 NASB) make my joy complete by being of the same mind, maintaining the same love, united in spirit, intent on one purpose.

(Phil 2:3 NASB) Do nothing from selfishness or empty conceit, but with humility of mind let each of you regard one another as more important than himself;

(Phil 2:4 NASB) do not merely look out for your own personal interests, but also for the interests of others.

(Phil 2:5 NASB) Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus,

(Phil 2:6 NASB) who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped,

(Phil 2:7 NASB) but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men.

(Phil 2:8 NASB) And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross."

[Hodges, cont.]:

"This is a supernatural life that was disclosed to author John and his fellow apostles in the incarnate Jesus Christ to His chosen apostles. lt is the Eternal Life that comes from the Father and becomes the eternal life which is shared individually and corporately by the company of children of God, born of God. It is what causes the oneness of faith - because the faith is the same for all: in Christ alone unto eternal life.

Note that the words "fellowship with us" precede in the text the words "fellowship is with the Father and with His Son, Jesus Christ." This is evidently a reminder that there can be no fellowship with the Father or with the Son that is not based on the content of the apostolic witness. So John stresses "fellowship with us" as having priority in time.

So the purpose of John's letter is stated in these first three verses: to inform his intended readers / and all children of God, born of God that just as the apostles were in fellowship with one another and God the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ, so the readers / and all children of God, born of God may also have fellowship with them and the Father and His Son.

If one has fellowship [Greek: "koinOnia," singular] with God the Father and His Son Jesus Christ (1:3), then one will have "koinOnia" with other children of God, born of God who have this same relationship to God (1:6, 7). And if fellowship does not exist between children of God, born of God, then any claim to have fellowship with God is invalid. The converse, though not stated, would also be true: True human "koinOnia" is impossible apart from "koinOnia" with God."

Hence the issue is not about salvation unto eternal life, as some contend, but it is about having author John's readers / and all children of God, born of God having fellowship with the apostles and with God the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ. For author John's intended audience is children of God, born of God who are already secure in their salvation whom he calls "My little children:"

2) [Compare 1 Jn 5:9-13]:

(1 Jn 5:9 NASB) If we receive the testimony of men, the testimony of God is greater; for the testimony of God is this, that He has testified concerning His Son.

(1 Jn 5:10 NASB) The one who believes in the Son of God has the testimony in himself; the one who does not believe God has made Him a liar, because he has not believed in the testimony that God has given concerning His Son.

(1 Jn 5:11 NASB) And the testimony is this, that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son.

(1 Jn 5:13 NASB) These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life."

Note that 1 Jn chapter 5:9-13 confirms that believing in the Son is all that is required in order to have eternal life. So the epistle of First John is addressed to children of God, born of God - those who know they have eternal life because they know that they have believed in the Son of God for it.

Furthermore, the following four passages indicate that the intended readership of First John is described by the phrase, "My little children" a descriptive term for children of God, born of God:

3) [Compare 1 Jn 2:1]:

(1 Jn 2:1 NASB) "My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the Righteous;"

The first part of 1 Jn 2:1, "My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin," further establishes to whom the First Epistle of John was written. Since 'unchildren' of God, 'unborn' of God are hopelessly enslaved to sin, (Ro 6:17, 20); and since only children of God, born of God therefore would be in a position to not sin; then the intended audience of this epistle must be children of God, born of God, as author John described as "My little children."

This is further confirmed by the final phrase of 1 Jn 2:1, "And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the Righteous," which confirms that children of God, born of God are in view in this passage; for those who are not children of God, born of God first must become children of God, born of God in Jesus Christ in order to have Him as an Advocate with God the Father when they do sin.

4) [Compare Jn 1:12-13]:

(Jn 1:12 YLT) "But as many [individuals of His own creation, (Jn 1:11a)] as did receive Him to them He gave authority to become sons [lit., children] of God - to those believing in His name"

5) [Compare 1 Jn 3:1-2]:

(1 Jn 3:1 NASB) "See how great a love the Father has bestowed on us, that we would be called children of God; and such we are. For this reason the world does not know us, because it did not know Him.

(1 Jn 3:2 NASB) Beloved, now we are children of God, and it has not appeared as yet what we will be. We know that when He appears, we will be like Him, because we will see Him just as He is."

6) [Compare 1 Jn 2:12]:

(1 Jn 2:12 NASB) "I am writing to you, little children, because your sins have been forgiven you for His name's sake."

Note that only children of God, born of God have the status wherein their sins are forgiven them relative to eternal life, (cf Acts 10:43).

So the subject of the first epistle of John is the exhortation to the reader / children of God, born of God to live a holy and righteous life resulting in fellowship with God.

This could not apply to what one must do to receive eternal life since acting righteously, i.e., keeping God's commandments, etc., are not part of receiving eternal life, (1 Jn 5:9-13 ); nor are they absolutely trustworthy - they are untrustworthy at best, (1 Jn 1:8, 10).

D) (1 Jn 1:1-4) THE EPISTLE OF FIRST JOHN WAS WRITTEN TO COUNTER THOSE ERRORS WHICH GO AGAINST THE TRUTHS OF SCRIPTURE IN ORDER TO KEEP READERS - ALL CHILDREN OF GOD, BORN OF GOD - ABIDING IN THE TRUTHS THEY HAVE LEARNED. AND THIS IS ESPECIALLY SO THAT ALL CHILDREN OF GOD, BORN OF GOD MAY HAVE FELLOWSHIP WITH THE APOSTLES AND WITH GOD THE FATHER AND WITH HIS SON JESUS CHRIST; SO THAT THE JOY OF THE READERS / CHILDREN OF GOD, BORN OF GOD AS WELL AS THE APOSTLES' JOY MIGHT BE COMPLETE. THE APOSTLES' JOY WOULD RESULT BECAUSE OF THE SPIRITUAL WELL-BEING OF THEIR BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN CHRIST

(1 Jn 1:1 YLT) "That which was from the beginning, that which we have heard, that which we have seen with our eyes, that which we did behold [in the sense of gazed intently upon], and our hands did handle, concerning the Word of ... Life - (1 Jn 1:2 NASB) and [indeed] the Life was manifested, and we have seen and testify and proclaim to you the Eternal Life, which was with the Father and was manifested to us - (1 Jn 1:3 NASB) what we have seen and heard we proclaim to you *also, so that you too may have fellowship with us; and indeed our fellowship is with the Father, and with His Son Jesus Christ. (1 Jn 1:4 NASB) These things we write*, so that our joy** may be made complete."

[*"These things we write" in WH, NU, Sinaiticus, A(org), B, P Psi, 33, Treg, Alf, Tisc, Weis, sod, UBS is favored over the longer "These things we write to you" which the latter adds nothing to the meaning and which is in TR, A(corr), C, K, L, byz, it, bo, 1739, Maj

**"our" is in sinaiticus, B, L, Psi, 049, syr(p), cop(sa) best fits the context of readers and author John, fellow children of God, born of God's and apostles' mutual joy all having been fulfilled altogether; as opposed to "your" limiting the joy just to the readers - the latter which is in A, C, P, 33, 1739, syr(b), cop(bo)] =

Author John in verse 4 completed the message of the first three verses with "These things we write so that our joy may be made complete." This statement implies that should John's readers respond positively to his message which follows in more detail in the rest of the epistle, then those that respond positively to the message as well as all children of God, born of God who follow the message would be in fellowship with the apostles and with God the Father and with His Son, Jesus Christ. And this fellowship would make their joy complete - evidently referring to the apostles as well as any readers / children of God, born of God who respond positively to John's message. The source of this joy would be a spiritual one - one which included an assurance of eternal life, a temporal peace with God and a confidence in ones intimate and eternal connection with God the Father and His Son, Jesus Christ, an inner joy which continues to bless the individual despite what goes on in the temporal life. The apostles' joy would also be due to the spiritual well being of their brothers and sisters in Christ who respond positively to their message and thereby share in the apostles' fellowship with one another and with God the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ.

1) [Compare 2 Jn 1:12]:

(2 Jn 1:12 NASB) "Though I have many things to write to you, I do not want to do so with paper and ink; but I hope to come to you and speak face to face, so that your joy may be made full."

[Author John here writes of a joy made full in those to whom he writes and speaks as a result of their responding positively to his message to them of what he had seen and heard from the Word of Life, Jesus Christ]

2) [Compare 3 Jn 4:1-4]:

(3 Jn 4:1 NASB) "The elder to the beloved Gaius, whom I love in truth.

(3 Jn 4:2 NASB) Beloved, I pray that in all respects you may prosper and be in good health, just as your soul prospers.

(3 Jn 4:6 NASB) For I was very glad when brethren came and bore witness to your truth, that is, how you are walking in truth.

(3 Jn 4:4 NASB) I have no greater joy than this, to hear of my children walking in the truth."

Author and apostle John indicates that when those to whom he ministers walk in the truths which he has related to them, he has no greater joy.

This joy author John also refers to his gospel:

3) [Compare Jn 15:5-11]:

(Jn 15:5 NASB) [Jesus said] "I am the vine, you are the branches; he who abides in Me and I in him, he bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing.

(Jn 15:6 NASB) If anyone does not abide in Me, he is thrown away as a branch and dries up; and they gather them, and cast them into the fire and they are burned.

(Jn 15:7 NASB) If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you.

(Jn 15:8 NASB) My Father is glorified by this, that you bear much fruit, and so prove to be My disciples.

(Jn 15:9 NASB) Just as the Father has loved Me, I have also loved you; abide in My love.

(Jn 15:10 NASB) If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love; just as I have kept My Father's commandments and abide in His love.

(Jn 15:11 NASB) These things I have spoken to you so that My joy may be in you, and that your joy may be made full."

4) [Compare Jn 16:22-24]:

(Jn 16:22 NASB) [Jesus said] "Therefore you too have grief now; but I will see you again, and your heart will rejoice, and no one will take your joy away from you.

(Jn 16:22 NASB) In that day you will not question Me about anything. Truly, truly, I say to you, if you ask the Father for anything in My name, He will give it to you.

(Jn 16:22 NASB) Until now you have asked for nothing in My name; ask and you will receive, so that your joy may be made full."

5) [Compare Jn 17:13]:

(Jn 17:13 NASB) [Jesus said] "But now I come to You; and these things I speak in the world so that they may have My joy made full in themselves."

The joy that Jesus spoke of was a joy which came from abiding in Him in the sense of walking in the truths that the LORD spoke of which He personally exemplified during His three year ministry. This joy begins with salvation unto eternal life since those to whom the LORD was speaking directly to were His disciples. And as the child of God, born of God abides in Christ, he would be blessed in his temporal life, including whatever he asked for in the LORD. The child of God, born of God would then experience the joy of the LORD in full - especially in the sense of being in fellowship with Him as he abides in Him. So the joy the LORD spoke of and author and apostle John wrote of and proclaimed was inseparable from the salvation that is present in "the Word of Life," the Son of God, Jesus Christ. It is directly bound up with the Person of the Son, Who is Himself present in the fellowship with the one who walks with Him in the truths that the LORD spoke of and exemplified.

E) (1 Jn 1:5) IN VERSE 5, JOHN EMPHASIZED AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT POINT ABOUT THE MESSAGE OF HOW TO HAVE FELLOWSHIP WITH THE APOSTLES AND WITH GOD THE FATHER, AND HIS SON, JESUS CHRIST: THAT GOD IS LIGHT AND IN HIM THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO DARKNESS - NO EVIL AT ALL!!! ON THE OTHER HAND, GOD'S LIGHT EXPOSES HIS CREATION AND REVEALS THAT MAN IS INHERENTLY EVIL AND CANNOT HAVE FELLOWSHIP WITH A HOLY GOD WHO IS ABSOLUTE RIGHTEOUSNESS. SO THE FELLOWSHIP EACH INDIVIDUAL MAN COULD HAVE COULD ONLY BE THROUGH GOD'S PROVISION ALONE WHEREBY MAN CAN BE PURIFIED FROM ALL UNRIGHTEOUSNESS BY GOD HIMSELF

(1 Jn 1:5 NKJV) "*This is the message which we have heard from Him and declare to you, that God is light and in Him is no darkness at all." =

[*TR WH NU sinaiticus A B Maj. have "this is the message which we have heard from Him"

The variant of "promise" for "message" in C P 33 cop and miniscules 69 81 323 614 945 1241 1505 1739. Another variant has "the love of the promise" in Sinaiticus2, Psi. Since the phrase "God is Light and in Him is no darkness at all" is stipulated in this verse as a statement of fact, it could hardly be construed as being a promise. On the other hand, it is remotely possible but unlikely that it could be referring in some way back to 1:3-4 wherein John promised the readers that they would be having the joy of fellowship with the Father and the Son as were the apostles. The textual evidence speaks against the variants because the variant "promise" appears in two forms in later manuscripts, while the TR WH NU reading has the combined support of three early witnesses (sinaiticus A B) - speaking of the transmission of Christ's message. Just as Christ passed on the message he heard from the Father, so the apostles in turn passed on the same message they heard from the Son]

1) [Compare 1 Jn 1:5c Greek Interlinear]:

"Kai .skotia .....en autO ouk estin oudemia"

"And darkness in Him ..not .is .....none"

It is evident from 1 Jn 1:1-4 that author John earnestly desired that his readers - and all children of God, born of God - might have fellowship with himself and fellow apostles and thus they would also have the fellowship the Apostles have with God the Father and with His Son, Jesus Christ. In verse 5, the Apostle John once more declared to have heard the message from "the Word of Life" whereupon he wrote of having declared that message to his readers - hence to all children of God, born of God. And that part of the message author John declared in verse 5 was an emphatic hence extremely important point about the message of how to have fellowship with the apostles and with God the Father and His Son, Jesus Christ. John wrote "That God is Light; and in Him there is no darkness at all!!!

Author John writes, "God is light," meaning that God is characterized by light - light in the sense of a light which is absolutely pure, i.e., Absolute Righteousness, Absolute Purity, Absolute Holiness, Absolute Truth. Absolute Splendor, Absolute Glory, etc., etc: that is what God is characterized by. And then, to make this first statement in verse 5 more emphatic, author John writes, "and in Him is no darkness at all!!!" Darkness here is the opposite of the light that characterizes God - mutually exclusive of that light and of Who God is. The light of God reveals the darkness which is in all men - their sinful characters and the evil that they constantly do: all men, except God the Son, Jesus Christ in His Humanity. And most of all this darkness has in view that men tend to remain wilfully ignorant of Who God really is - the light of His Absolute Righteousness. Throughout history all men have demonstrated that they love darkness / evil and choose to dwell in it instead of in the Light / the Righteousness of God. This darkness is sin / evil / unrighteousness which has no part of Who God is and what He does. Because this darkness pervades the character of all men, all of mankind has a problem with Who God is, because no man is capable of being as Righteous as God is Righteous. All men, even children of God, born of God, even apostles are inherently evil and incapable in and of themselves of having fellowship with God, and yet all men wilfully tend to remain ignorant of Who God is.

The light of God's Absolute Righteousness has been testified to from the beginning of Creation and throughout the ages: by observing Creation, by what the prophets of old said and did - especially as recorded in Scripture, by what the apostles said and did - especially as recorded in Scripture, most particularly what they wrote of the Word of Life, Jesus Christ, God the Son - as to what they heard and observed Him say and do and in their writings that comprise the New Testament books.

2) [Compare Jn 3:19-21]:

(Jn 3:19 NASB) "This is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil.

(Jn 3:20 NASB) For everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come to the Light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.

(Jn 3:21 NASB) "But [the one doing] the truth comes to the Light, so that his deeds may be manifested as having been [accomplished by] God."

So man under his own auspices, being evil, cannot have fellowship with a Holy God Who is Absolute Righteousness, unless God provides the wherewithal to account each man moment to moment to be as Righteous as God is, so that what that individual does in the moment can be manifested as Righteous - having been accomplished by God.

3) [Compare Jn 8:12]:

(Jn 8:12 NASB) "Then Jesus again spoke to them, saying, 'I am the Light of the world; he who follows Me will not walk in the darkness, but will have the Light of life.' "

The phrase "I am the Light of the world; he who follows Me will not walk in the darkness, but will have the Light of life," in the sense of believing in Jesus Christ for eternal life, (cf. Jn 1:6-13; 3:14-21; 5:24; 6:29, 35, 40, 47; 7:38; 8:24; 20:31); and then following what Jesus taught about conducting oneself in the temporal life to receive blessings, be provided with a true purpose in life and consequently add eternal value to that temporal life in the form of eternal rewards. And the opposite is true that those that do not follow Jesus' teaching by neither believing in Him for eternal life, (cf. Jn 8:24), nor following His teaching would be walking in the darkness of evil - the opposite of what the Light of the world, Jesus Christ was all about.

4) [Compare Jn 12:28-37]:

(Jn 12:28 NASB) ''' "Father, glorify Your name." Then a voice came out of heaven: "I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again."

(Jn 12:29 NASB) So the crowd of people who stood by and heard it were saying that it had thundered; others were saying, "An angel has spoken to Him."

(Jn 12:30 NASB) Jesus answered and said, "This voice has not come for My sake, but for your sakes.

(Jn 12:31 NASB) Now judgment is upon this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out.

(Jn 12:32 NASB) And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to Myself."

(Jn 12:33 NASB) But He was saying this to indicate the kind of death by which He was to die.

(Jn 12:34 NASB) The crowd then answered Him, "We have heard out of the Law that the Christ is to remain forever; and how can You say, 'The Son of Man must be lifted up'? Who is this Son of Man?"

(Jn 12:35 NASB) So Jesus said to them, "For a little while longer the Light is among you. Walk while you have the Light, so that darkness will not overtake you; he who walks in the darkness does not know where he goes.

(Jn 12:36 NASB) While you have the Light, believe in the Light, so that you may become sons of Light." These things Jesus spoke, and He went away and hid Himself from them.

(Jn 12:37 NASB) But though He had performed so many signs before them, yet they were not believing in Him.'"

By believing in "the Light," (vv. 35-36), "the Christ," (v. 34), "the Son of Man," (v. 34) - a moment of faith - and one has become a son of Light, (v. 36), implying having possession of eternal life - having an eternal fellowship with the Light / Jesus Christ, (cf. Jn 3:16).

So 1 Jn 1:5 says that God is light in the sense that He reveals Himself in and to His creation, and in so doing He reveals the wickedness that is found in creation - in all men - which is completely set apart from Who He is. Thus, it is in the very nature of Who God is that man is inevitably exposed by the light of God as falling far short of His moral glory.

The second phrase in 1 Jn 1:5 is a negative corollary to the first phrase "God is light." This second phrase is rendered "and in Him is no darkness at all." The Greek literally says "and darkness is not in Him - none." It has two negatives to make the message very emphatic. Although there are those who contend that there is darkness / evil in God, 1 Jn 1:5b says emphatically that there is absolutely no darkness / evil in God at all! In the paganism of the day, there was a mythology about the gods reflecting a capriciousness and willingness to do harm. Others' contend that 'evil,' as well as 'good,' originated from the Creator and so moral distinctions were invalid. But according to and throughout all of Scripture which has no contradictions on this matter; and according to the experience of the apostles, who saw and heard from "the Word of Life," Jesus Christ, Who is God - their accounts having been written down without contradictions in this matter, there is no evil in God - only absolute Righteousness:

5) [Dt 32:3-4]:

(Dt 32:3 NASB) "For I proclaim the name of the LORD; Ascribe greatness to our God!

(Dt 32:4 NASB) The Rock! His work is perfect, For all His ways are just; A God of faithfulness and without injustice, Righteous and upright is He."

6) [Isa 45:21]:

(Isa 45:21 NASB) "Declare and set forth your case; Indeed, let them consult together. Who has announced this from of old? Who has long since declared it? Is it not I, the LORD? And there is no other God besides Me, A righteous God and a Savior; There is none except Me."

7) [Ro 3:21-25]:

(Ro 3:21 NASB) "But now apart from the Law the Righteousness of God has been manifested, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets,

(Ro 3:22 NASB) even the Righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all those who believe; for there is no distinction;

(Ro 3:23 NASB) for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

(Ro 3:24 NASB) being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus;

(Ro 3:25 NASB) whom God displayed publicly as a propitiation in His blood through faith. This was to demonstrate His righteousness, because in the forbearance of God He passed over the sins previously committed; "

Notice that the Righteousness of God has been witnessed to in Scripture - "the Law and the Prophets" - which Righteousness is received only by an individual through a moment of faith alone in Jesus Christ alone - in His propitiation in His blood / in His atoning sacrifice for sins. For all men have sinned and fall short of the glory - the Absolute Righteousness of God, and consequently have no righteousness of their own.

The fact that God is light and in Him is no darkness is testified to in Old Testament Scripture without the slightest contradiction throughout. This is corroborated by the noncontradictory written accounts of the personal experiences of the Apostles of the words and actions of the Word of Life, Jesus Christ, Who is God the Son in His Humanity in the New Testament. There was observed and heard by the apostles no evil present in the Word of Life, in God the Son, Jesus Christ in His Humanity, Who is God, and Who came from God the Father. On the other hand, man is inherently evil and cannot have fellowship with a Holy God Who is absolute righteousness. So the fellowship each individual man could have could only be through God's provision alone whereby that man can be purified from all unrighteousness by God Himself. So an individual's fellowship with God can only be through being purified from all unrighteousness by God Himself - the Righteous One, (Isa 53:11; cf. 1 Jn 1:9). For no man other than Jesus Christ Himself is without sin, nor can claim any man to be without sin, (cf. 1 Jn 1:8, 10).

F) (1 Jn 1:6) IF FOR A PERIOD OF TIME (UNSPECIFIED) WE CHILDREN OF GOD, BORN OF GOD INCLUDING APOSTLES SAY, "WE HAVE FELLOWSHIP WITH HIM (GOD) AND YET WALK IN DARKNESS / SIN WHILE NOT ACKNOWLEDGING THAT GOD IS LIGHT / ABSOLUTE RIGHTEOUSNESS, WE LIE AND DO NOT DO THE TRUTH." ALTHOUGH ALL UNBELIEVERS WALK IN DARKNESS, NEVER ACKNOWLEDGING THAT GOD IS LIGHT / ABSOLUTE RIGHTEOUSNESS, THEY ARE NOT IN VIEW IN THIS PASSAGE

(1 Jn 1:5 NKJV) "This is the message which we have heard from Him and declare to you, that God is light and in Him is no darkness at all. (1 Jn 1:6 NASB) If we [should] say that we have fellowship with Him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not [do] the truth." =

Author John completes the thought he began in verse 5, that since God is light, i.e., Absolutely and Eternally Righteous; and since in Him there is no darkness at all, i.e., never anything evil, (cf. Jn 1:5; 3:19; 12:35 [twice]; 1 Jn 1:5-6; 2:8-9, 11 [twice]; then "If we [should] say we have fellowship with Him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not [do] the truth."

The first phrase in verse 6, "If we [should] say that we have fellowship with Him [God] and yet walk in darkness" comprises the first clause of a 3rd class If-Then statement. The phrase rendered, "walk in darkness" conveys the sense of not acknowledging ones sins before a Holy God Who is Light, i.e., Absolute Righteousness. The Greek words "ean eipOmen" rendered "If we should say" is in the aorist tense and the subjunctive mood, conveying a completed action moment of maybe we do say, and maybe we do not say. The subjunctive mood is a mood of objective possibility which conveys a conditional statement of children of God, born of God including apostles' potential of making a statement that they have fellowship with God yet walk [= an unspecified period of time defined in the present tense] in darkness in the sense of not acknowledging their sins before a Holy God Who is Absolute Righteousness.

The second clause of the If-Then statement declares the result if we children of God, born of God do [aorist tense] say that we have [present tense] fellowship with God and walk [present tense] in darkness:" "we lie [present tense] and do not [do] [present tense] the truth."

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The words rendered "we" in verse 6 refer back to verse 5 incorporating John and fellow apostles, John's readers and all children of God, born of God - all of whom are children of God, born of God. For whether one is an apostle or a reader / child of God, born of God, if one is walking in darkness / sin - ignoring Who God is, that He is Absolutely Righteous, and one makes the statement that one has fellowship with God then that statement is a lie and those children of God, born of God are not doing the truth. Note that to walk in darkness is to hide from God and to refuse to acknowledge Who He is - that He is light and in Him is no darkness at all - to refuse to recognize ones sinful character and the evil that one commits all the time, (cf. 1 Jn 1:8, 10). So the "we" applies to all children of God, born of God, including the apostles. Had John and fellow apostles thought that they were impervious to a failure in their walk with God, John could have easily written, "If you say" thereby excluding themselves. But they did not.

Four of the five verbs in verse 6 are simple present tense - the first verb is aorist tense. These four verbs are without any words in the context to convey permanent habitual / lifestyle action. The present tense in koine Greek without qualifying words does not demand permanent habitual / lifestyle action as some contend it does convey in this passage .. The duration of the time in which one might walk in darkness and not do the truth can be a short duration of time or a long one depending upon the particular circumstance of the one walking in darkness. Note that all children of God, born of God experience moments of walking in darkness every day, so no one can claim to have no sin, (1 Jn 1:8), or have not sinned, (1 Jn 1:10), for some period of time - short or long or permanent - hence not be acknowledging the truth of their lives before God, and especially not be acknowleding Who God is moment to moment - His Absolutely Righteous Onmipresence in all men's lives, (1 Jn 1:8, 10). So 1 Jn 1:6 is saying that if for those particular moments that a child of God, born of God says that he has fellowship with God yet for those moments he is walking in darkness by doing evil / not reconciling himself with God by responding to God's light by walking in the light through acknowledging Who God is and through confession of ones sins, (1 Jn 1:7, 9); then he is moving in a sphere from which God is absent - not having that evil accounted for by God; and that child of God, born of God is lying, and is not doing the truth - not being truthful for the duration of that particular time.

So the Greek phrase "kai ou poioumen tEn alEtheian" in 1 Jn 1:6 rendered "and do not [do] the truth" in the YLT, AV, KJV is imprecisely rendered in other versions as "and do not practice the truth," in the NASB, NKJV; and "and are not practicing the truth" in the Holman; and "and do not live out the truth," in the NIV - adding additional words such as "practice," "practicing," and "live out" that are not in the original Greek text.

1) [Compare Jn 3:21]:

(Jn 3:21 NKJV) "But he who *does [NKJV, AV, KJV, YLT] the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God."

* NASB: "practices;" HCSB, NIV: "lives by."

The simple present tense verb form that is present in 1 Jn 1:6 "poioumen" which means "do," and the nominative participle verb form of this verb in Jn 3:21, (poiOn tEn alEtheian") which means "he who does," lit., "the one doing the truth" both convey the concept of a limited timespan when one is not walking with God but in darkness - in sin and in wilful ignorance of the fact that God is Perfect Light / Absolute Righteousness. Both verb forms require additional words in order to convey the context of characteristic of ones lifestyle, ("living the truth"), or an extended timeframe of not "practicing" as opposed to simply not "doing" the truth for the moment that is in view in the text.

Although children of God, born of God while they walk in darkness are nevertheless eternally secure, born again children of God, (Jn 1:12-13; 1 Jn 2:1-2; 5:9-13 ); but for the time that these children of God, born of God do walk in darkness, they are wilfully denying the Absolute Righteousness of God - hiding in the darkness of their minds from His Perfect Light. Hence as children of God, they are out of temporal fellowship with God - apostles included. And while they walk in darkness they are moving in the realm of evil - while God remains in the realm of holiness and Absolute Righteousness. Temporal fellowship of these errant children of God, born of God with God is not available.

This passage does not apply to unbelievers as some contend it does. Although all unbelievers stand under God's condemnation; hence they walk in darkness / evil - all the time - even when they do 'good;' and although some of them may lie and say that they are in fellowship with God in order to pretend holiness and lead others astray with their false religious points of view; the word rendered "we" in 1 Jn 1:6 cannot refer to those who are neither John's intended readers, nor any of the apostles, nor anyone who is a child of God, born of God. For chapter one has only those who are children of God, born of God in view whether apostles, intended readers or any children of God, born of God. No where in chapter one of this epistle are nonbelievers in view. Note that the extant nature from which comes sinful actions and the new born of God nature from which comes godly righteousness have both been in view in the children of God, born of God in First John up to this point.

G) (1 Jn 1:7) BUT IF WE CHILDREN OF GOD, BORN OF GOD - APOSTLES INCLUDED - WALK IN THE LIGHT - NOT ACCORDING TO IT IN SINLESS PERFECTION; BUT IN THE SENSE OF (1) ACKNOWLEDGING THAT GOD IS PERFECT LIGHT / ABSOLUTE RIGHTEOUSNESS, AND (2) ACKNOWLEDGING OUR SINFUL SHORTCOMINGS BEFORE A HOLY GOD, THEN WE CHILDREN OF GOD, BORN OF GOD WHILE WE ARE WALKING IN THE LIGHT HAVE (TEMPORAL) FELLOWSHIP, ONE [GOD] WITH ANOTHER [WITH EACH OF WE CHILDREN OF GOD, BORN OF GOD WHO ARE WALKING IN THE LIGHT]; AND THE BLOOD OF JESUS, GOD'S SON, CLEANSES US FROM THE TEMPORAL SIN WE ARE ACKNOWLEDGING AND FROM ALL UNRIGHTEOUSNESS

(1 Jn 1:5 NKJV) "This is the message which we have heard from Him and declare to you, that God is light and in Him is no darkness at all. (1 Jn 1:6 NASB) If we [should] say that we have fellowship with Him and.yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not [do] the truth; (1 Jn 1:7 NASB) but if we walk in the light as He Himself is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, [One = God, with another = with each of we children of God, born of God walking in the light], and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin." =

In verse 5, author John emphatically established that God is light / Absolute Righteousness and in Him is no darkness / evil at all. And with that in mind, he wrote in verse 6, "if we children of God, born of God [apostles included] say that we have fellowship with Him [God, Who is Absolute Righteousness] and yet walk in darkness [hiding in the darkness of our minds from His Perfect Light - not acknowledging our sins in the presence of the light of a Holy God - a God Whom we wilfully refuse to acknowledge in our minds is Absolute Righteousness,] we lie and do not [do] the truth." Whereupon John wrote in verse 7 of an alternative to walking in darkness: walking in the light, acknowledging in our minds the presence and character of God Whose sphere is Perfect Light / Absolute Righteousness and reviewing our thoughts, words and deed before Him - acknowledging what we know falls short of His Absolute Righteousness:

The first phrase in verse 7, "But if we walk in the light as He Himself is in the light" which conveys the sense of acknowledging ones sins before a Holy God Who is Absolute Righteousness comprises the first clause of a 3rd class If-Then statement. The Greek words "ean de en tO phOti peripatOmen" rendered "But if we walk in the light as He Himself is in the light," is in the present tense and the subjunctive mood, conveying a present action moment of unspecified duration of maybe we do walk, and maybe we do not walk, depending upon the circumstances of each child of God, born of God. The subjunctive mood is a mood of objective possibility which conveys a conditional statement of the potential of children of God, born of God of walking in the light as He [God] Himself is in the light - the sphere of His Absolute Righteousness.

The second clause of the If-Then statement in verse 7 rendered [then] "we have fellowship with one another, [One = God, with another = with each one of we children of God, born of God walking in the light]; and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin" declares the result if we children of God, born of God walk [present tense] in the light as He [God] Himself is in the light," namely fellowship with God and cleansing from all unrighteousnesses.

Note that the Greek word "allElOn" rendered "one another," in the phrase "have fellowship with one another" has in view the two parties named at the beginning of this statement which begins in verse 6, namely, "If we [children of God, born of God including apostles] say that we have fellowship with Him," i.e., God. So God and children of God, born of God including apostles while they are walking in the light are in view. So to walk in the Light of God is to walk in the sphere of God which illuminates everything as it shines on us and everything around us - throughout the world, implying a worldwide illumination of Who God is: Absolute Righteousness. Since according to this passage God not only is light (verse 5), but He also is in the light (verse 7); so to walk in the light means to acknowledge God's presence, Who He is, and what He has revealed about Himself in Creation and via the proper study, understanding and acknowledgement of truths contained in Scripture. The more we children of God, born of God study the Word of God and the more we acknowledge our shortcomings to Him, the better our fellowship with God will be.

So the issue for children of God, born of God including apostles is not to satisfy an impossible requirement to walk according to the light of God's Absolute Righteousness: The issue is not to stay on a path of life that is in line with His holy character to attain moments of sinless perfection in order to have fellowship with God during those 'perfect moments,' as some contend. For this is something which is impossible for all men except Jesus Christ - the Son of God in His Humanity, (Jn 1:1-14; 1 Jn 1:7-8, 10). But the issue is to walk in the light of God's light - allowing that light which is the absolutely perfect Righteousness of God to illuminate our sinful natures - our sins on a moment to moment basis as we compare our lives to the standard of His Absolute Holiness - implying an ongoing acknowledgment of Who God is - His Absolute Righteousness.

And since God has made provision through the sacrifice of His Son to pay for all the sins committed by all men throughout history, past, present and future, (1 Jn 2:1-2); which serves to provide eternal life for we who have trusted in Him for it, (Jn 3:16), to become those who are in view in First John chapter one, i.e., "we" children of God, born of God; then as we children of God, born of God walk in the Perfect Light of God's Perfect Holiness - acknowledging to God whatever the Perfect Light of God reveals is wrong in our lives; then the blood of Jesus Christ cleanses us children of God, born of God from whatever temporal sins we have been acknowledging; and furthermore, the blood of Jesus Christ cleanses us from all unrighteousness. And during these moments of walking in God's Perfect Light, we have fellowship with God, and He with us. We are made clean / holy to be in fellowship with God by virtue of the Savior's shed blood - His propitiation for the sins of all mankind.

1) [Compare 1 Jn 2:2]:

(1 John 2:2 NASB) "and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world."

2) [Compare Ro 3:21-26]:

(Ro 3:21 NASB) "But now apart from the Law the righteousness of God has been manifested, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets,

(Ro 3:22 NASB) even the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all those who believe; for there is no distinction;

(Ro 3:23 NASB) for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

(Ro 3:24 NASB) being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus;

(Ro 25a NASB) "Whom God displayed publicly as a propitiation in His blood through faith [for a display].

(Ro 25b NASB) This [display] was to demonstrate His righteousness, because in the forbearance of God He passed over the sins previously committed;

(Ro 26 NASB) for the demonstration, I say, of His righteousness at the present time, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus."

a) Redemption, (Being Freed From The Consequence Of Ones Sins Unto A Righteousness From God), Came By Christ Jesus Whom God Displayed Publicly, I.E., Provided An Observable Demonstration To The The World Of Christ Jesus' Propitiation In His Blood, I.E., His Satisfactory Atoning Sacrifice In His Blood, For The Sins Of The Whole World Which Redemption Comes Through Faith In That Sacrifice

(v. 23) "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, (v. 24) and are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus, (v. 25a NAS) Whom God displayed publicly as a propitiation in His blood through faith. =

Redemption, (being freed from the consequence of ones sins unto an eternal righteousness from God, i.e., justification), came by Christ Jesus Whom God displayed publicly, i.e., provided an observable demonstration to the world of Christ Jesus' propitiation, His satisfactory atoning sacrifice, in His blood, for the sins of the whole world, which redemption comes through faith in that sacrifice.

Notice that in 1 Jn 1:7 the present tense in the phrase "and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin," indicates an ongoing cleansing as acknowledgement / confessions are made by we children of God, born of God, (cf. v. 9). The more consistent our walk in the Light of God, the more we walk away from those things which our sin natures move us to do such as refusing to acknowledge the Perfect Light of God, denying we have an ever present evil nature in our character and denying that we commit sins all the time. All mental and physical activity which acknowledges a Holy God distances us from activity toward the darkness in our temporal lives. Note that the pursuit of walking in the Light of God's Absolute Righteousness is enhanced by the pursuit of the knowledge of God through study of the Word of God, such as what John wrote in his first epistle.

H) (1 Jn 1:8) IF WE CHILDREN OF GOD, BORN OF GOD INCLUDING APOSTLES SAY THAT WE HAVE NO SIN - IN THE SENSE OF HAVING NOT COMMITTED A SINGLE SIN WITH A PARTICULAR TIMEFRAME IN VIEW, WE DECEIVE OURSELVES AND THE TRUTH IS NOT IN US - AND NEITHER FOR THE MOMENT IS FELLOWSHIP WITH GOD

(1 Jn 1:6 NASB) "If we [should] say that we have fellowship with Him and.yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not [do] the truth; (1 Jn 1:7 NASB) but if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, [One = God, with another = with each of we children of God, born of God walking in the light], and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin. (1 Jn 1:8 NASB) .If we [should] say that we have no sin, we [deceive] ourselves and the truth is not in us." =

[Variant "the truth of God" in some miniscules and syr - little support, unnecessarily expanded the word "truth." The shortest reading is best]

After enlightening children of God, born of God in 1 Jn 1:5-7 on how to have fellowship with God by their unceasing acknowledgment that God is Perfect Light / Absolute Righteousness, and by unceasing acknowledgment that they constantly fall short of His Absolute Righteousness and need unceasing cleansing of their sins by the blood of Jesus God's Son; author John returns in 1 Jn 1:8 to children of God, born of God' (including apostles') tendency - even those who have a consistency of being in fellowship with God, to deceive themselves when they falsely consider themselves free of committing acts of sin; when they falsely think that they do not need continuous cleansing from "the blood of Jesus Christ."

The first phrase in verse 8, "If we [should] say that we have no sin" comprises the first clause of a 3rd class If-Then statement. The Greek words "ean eipOmen" rendered "If we [should] say" is in the aorist tense and the subjunctive mood, conveying a completed action of maybe we do say, and maybe we do not say. The subjunctive mood of objective possibility conveys a message of children of God, born of God potentially making a statement that they have no sin, [sin, singular conveying that the child of God, born of God no longer bears present guilt for some particular sin - any sin*]" For the Greek words "hamartian ouk echomen" rendered "we have no sin" is in the present tense conveying a moment in time when one thinks there is not a single sin that one can be held accountable for in a timeframe they falsely perceive as one of sinless perfection.

*Although the sin nature, the principle of sin that pervades all mortal humanity except Jesus Christ is present even in children of God, born of God including the apostles; nevertheless the phrase rendered "we have no sin," in the NASB does not refer to the presence of the sin nature / the sin principle within one, as some contend. For the Greek phrase transliterated "ouk echomen hamartian" lit. "sin not we have" and rendered "we have no sin" in the NASB, occurs elsewhere in the New Testament in John's Gospel, (cf. 9:41; 15:22, 24; 19:11). In all these places, the obvious meaning is to bear present guilt for some particular sin - any sin, implying that the phrase rendered "we have no sin," in 1 Jn 1:8 implies the false idea that a child of God, born of God experiences moments of sinless perfection.

A child of God, born of God may not be conscious of any acts of sin in his life, or maintain that he no longer has a sin nature which produces acts of sin; or he may think that he has overcome his sin nature with his new nature via the indwelling Holy Spirit for a period of time in order to achieve moments of sinless perfection. Some might even falsely contend that they are beyond the categories of good and evil because they possess the Spirit of God or have achieved some kind of spiritual transcendance. But whatever one thinks does not contradict the fact that while in one's mortal body, one nevertheless has a sin nature, commits sin all the time, and constantly falls short of the glory of God - His Absolute Righteousness all the time - children of God, born of God including apostles (as well as all unbelievers). This is clearly and repeatedly conveyed in Scripture, (1 Jn 1:10; even admitted to by the apostle Paul after he became a child of God, born of God and an apostle: ref. Romans chapter 7 ).

The second clause of the If-Then statement contains two phrases, "we [deceive] ourselves and the truth is not in us." It declares the result of when we children of God, born of God do say that we have no sin: we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us." It brings out into the light those children of God, born of God who have wilfully hidden their mentalities from the sphere of light in which God dwells - the sphere of His Absolute Righteousness, which sphere man cannot attain under his own auspices in his mortal life. This is man's typical self deception - his arrogance - which serves to puff himself up to think that he has committed no sin for a period of time - that he has no sin nature or has overcome it if he is a child of God, born of God with the new nature within him that the Holy Spirit has provided . The Greek word "heautous" rendered "ourselves" is the first word in the second clause, "we [deceive] ourselves and the truth is not in us." It is in an emphatic position emphasizing that such a self deception is deliberate and wilful, bearing no resemblance to the truth nor to innocence. Such children of God, born of God are in danger of becoming progressively delusional and evil as the timespan that they claim to be without sin increases.

So when children of God, born of God feel close to God, they should nevertheless remember that a closeness with God, i.e., genuine fellowship with Him is not due to their being free of sin - without acts of sin being committed by them, or by some kind of feeling based on emotion or some unbiblical idea. Fellowship with God only comes to a child of God, born of God via confession to God Who is Light / Absolute Righteousness, and out of the grace of God because of the shed blood of Jesus Christ, His Son, which cleanses us from all sin, (1 Jn 1:7). Fellowship does not result from how good the child of God, born of God behaves or feels but how much more he is focused upon God's Absolute Righteousness as compared with the evil nature of his own thoughts, words and deeds which he acknowledges to God.

I) (1 Jn 1:9) IF WE CHILDREN OF GOD, BORN OF GOD - APOSTLES INCLUDED - SHOULD CONFESS OUR SINS - IN THE SENSE OF SHOULD WE CONSTANTLY ACKNOWLEDGE THE PARTICULAR ACTS OF SIN WE CHILDREN OF GOD, BORN OF GOD INEVITABLY, CONSTANTLY COMMIT THAT ARE BROUGHT TO OUR MINDS BY GOD WITH A VIEW TO HIS PERFECT RIGHTEOUSNESS; THEN GOD IS FAITHFUL - ABSOLUTELY TRUSTWORTHY AND RIGHTEOUS / JUSTIFIED IN FORGIVING OUR SINS WHICH WE CONSTANTLY CONFESS. AND HE IS JUSTIFIED IN CONTINUALLY PURIFYING US FROM ALL OF OUR UNRIGHTEOUSNESS UNTO TEMPORAL FELLOWSHIP ONCE MORE WITH HIMSELF; FORENSICALLY JUSTIFIED BECAUSE THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST, HIS SON PAID FOR THE SINS OF ALL MANKIND

(1 Jn 1:9 NASB) "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us *our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." =

[*"our" in the phrase "He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins" is in 01Sinaiticus 04C, 044Psi 81 614 623 630 1505, 1852, 2464, 2495 - the best manuscript evidence for this variation. Although the alternative reading has the Greek definite article "tas" rendered "the" in lieu of "our," it is an article of previous reference, referring to the first phrase in the verse, "If we confess our sins." So the meaning of "our" is implied. Hence either rendering suits the context of the passage]

1) If We Children Of God, born of God - Apostles Included - Should Confess Our Sins, Our Acts Of Sin (Plural) Which We Inevitably And Constantly Commit Which Are Brought To Our Minds By God

"If we confess our sins" =

First John 1:7, which reads, "But if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, [One = God, with another = with each of we children of God, born of God walking in the light], and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin," is saying the same thing as "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness" in verse 9. The issue in the phrase in verse 7 of walking in the light is not a matter of walking with God through one's own effort, which would be expressed differently as "walk according to the Light." It is actually a matter of recognition of one's own depravity - of recognition of one's incompatibility with the Absolute Holiness and Righteousness of God, (1 Jn 1:5). It is not a matter of repenting unto behaving better, as some contend; but a matter of confessing one's sins.

So to walk in the light in order to be in fellowship with God is further explained by author John in verse 9: "If we" [children of God, born of God including apostles] "confess our sins" [in the sense of if we should acknowledge to God particular sins God is bringing to our minds which we are committing] "He [God] is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."

The Greek verb form "homologOmen" rendered "confess" is composed of "homo" meaning the same, and "logOmen" meaning "we say" from the Greek verb "lego," to speak. "HomologOmen" therefore means to say the same thing back to God that the Holy Spirit is saying to us: The Holy Spirit is bringing certain sins which we have committed to our attention which we are to confess back to God. The verb is in the present tense conveying a duration - a continuance in time which is dependent upon how long a particular child of God, born of God has been committing sins and has fallen out of fellowship with God and is due to confess his sins. The Greek phrase "ean homologOmen tas hamartias hEmOn" rendered "If we should confess our sins," is the first part of a third class If-Then statement. It is in the subjunctive mood conveying objective possibility; i.e., maybe we children of God, born of God will and maybe we won't acknowledge back to God what He is reminding us of committing particular sins.

The Greek noun "hamartias" in the phrase "tas hamartias hEmOn" rendered "our sins" is plural, signifying acts of sin which we children of God, born of God have committed. The singular form of sin which might signify the sin principle / the sin nature is not in view.

2) And As We Children Of God, Born Of God Confess Our Particular Acts Of Sin, The Character Of God Being Absolutely Trustworthy And Absolutely Righteous, He Will Forgive Us Our Sins That We Have Confessed And Purify Us From All Unrighteousness Unto Temporal Fellowship Once More With Him. For God's Forgiveness And Cleansing Is Forensically Justified Because The Blood Of His Son, Jesus Was Shed For Us And For All Mankind To Pay For The Sins Of Mankind

"He [God] is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." =

Rather than continuing to deny that we are committing particular acts of sin by not acknowledging them to God, Who is reminding us of our falling short of His Absolute Righteousness, we children of God, born of God - apostles included - are being given the opportunity to acknowledge our sins freely back to God as we are committing them. Once we confess our particular acts of sin which we have committed, the character of God being Absolutely Trustworthy, (cf. Jer 31:34), and Absolutely Righteous, (Ps 71:19); as promised, He will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness unto fellowship once more with God including those sins which we confessing children of God, born of God are not aware of; until God provides the next reminder of our falling short of His Absolute Righteousness.

For as Scripture promises, God has always been and will be true to His nature of being Absolutely Faithful and Trustworthy - fulfilling every promise He makes. For "God is Light, and there is no darkness in Him at all," (cf. 1 Jn 1:5). God "is faithful" because He is Who He is: Absolute Faithfulness. Consider especially the unfathomable gift of the life of the Son of God promised to mankind throughout the ages and faithfully dying on the cross and rising from the dead for our sins as prophesied.

Children of God, born of God including apostles who confess known sins are temporally cleansed of those sins which they have confessed; whereupon they are also temporally cleansed from all unrighteousness. Although no sin can go unpunished without impugning God's Perfect Justice; and the mercy of God cannot be invoked without the justice of God being satisified. We need not fear that God will refuse to forgive because it would not be 'right' for Him to do so in the sense that no payment was made to provide His forgiveness. There is no compromise of God's Absolute Righteousness when He does forgive the child of God, born of God who confesses his sins to Him. For the sins of all mankind have been attoned for by Jesus Christ for eternal forgiveness for any who trust in that eternal provision, (becoming children of God, born of God, 1 Jn 5:9-13 ); as well as for temporal forgiveness / cleansing of sins - a familial forgiveness provided for those who are already children of God, born of God: those of the family of God - those who have believed in Jesus' name for eternal life, (Jn 1:12-13) - in order to provide the blessings of temporal fellowship with a Holy God while in their mortal bodies. So God is righteous in doing this, i.e., God is judicially justified in cleansing us children of God, born of God of all of our sins who confess them because He has made a grace provsion for the temporal forgiveness / cleansing of sins through the shed blood of His Son, Jesus Christ in temporal payment for all sins confessed and unconfessed - activated for the times when any child of God, born of God is walking in the Light of God's Absolute Righteousness, (ref. 1 Jn 1:7; 2:2), by confessing his sins in order to provide fellowship with God his Father.

The child of God, born of God is then cleansed of temporal sins on the basis of what Jesus his Savior did for him on the cross. That child of God, born of God, for the moment, is in fellowship with God, i.e., abiding in Christ until he violates a principle from God's Word again.

3) Since Confession Of Sins Is Never Connected In Scripture With The Acquisition Of Eternal Life; And Since The Reception Of Eternal Life Is Not Stipulated As A Result Of Confession, (But Temporal Fellowship Is); And Since Eternal Life Is Always Conditioned Solely Upon A Moment Of Faith Alone In Jesus Christ Alone Plus Nothing Else In Scripture; And Since Unbelievers Are Not In View In First John Chapter One, (But Children Of God, Born Of God Are); Then First John Chapter One Is Not Giving Instruction To Unbelievers Or Children Of God, Born Of God On How To Have Eternal Life Via Confession Of Sins

Since confession of sins is never connected in Scripture with the acquisition of eternal life. Other passages that have confession of sins in view do not provide eternal life either ; and since eternal life is not so named as a result of such an action or any action in 1 Jn chapter one - directly or indirectly - but (temporal) fellowship of children of God, born of God including apostles with one another and God is, (vv. 3, 6, 7); and since eternal life is always conditioned solely via a moment of faith alone in Jesus Christ alone plus nothing else throughout Scripture, (Jn 1:12-13; 3:16-18; 3:36, 5:24; 6:29, 35, 40, 47; 20:31; 1 Jn 5:9-13 ) - resulting in an irreversible spiritual birth and an irrevocable promise of eternal life; and since there are no requirements of an individual other than a one time expression of faith in Christ and certainly no ongoing qualifiers built into God's plan of salvation, (Eph 2:8-9; 1:13-14; Ro 11:29); and since unbelievers are not in view in First John chapter one; then First John chapter one is not giving instruction to unbelievers or believers on how to have eternal life via confession of sins, as some contend.

4) Although A Child Of God, Born Of God Already Has Forgiveness In Christ Relative To Eternal Life Forever As A Born Again Child Of God; Temporal / Familial Forgiveness Is Provided For That Born Again Child On A Moment To Moment Basis To Secure Temporal / Familial Fellowship With God For The Oft Failing Child When He Inevitably Sins Again

Some contend that a child of God, born of God already has forgiveness in Christ, (ref. Eph 1:7; 4:32; Col 1:14; 2:13) and does not need to confess his sins or do something for forgiveness of his sins as he commits them. But this point of view confuses the perfect / eternally secure position which a Christian has in God's Son (by which he is assured and even "seated... with Him in the heavenly realms" [Eph 1:13-14; 2:4-9]) with his temporal position before a Holy God as a continually flawed individual in his mortal body on earth. What is considered in 1 John 1:9 may be described as "temporal" or "familial" forgiveness. It is perfectly understandable how a son needs to have his father forgive and cleanse him of his faults while at the same time his position within the family as a son is not in jeopardy.

This confession is not a deed but an admission, an acceptance of guilt. And by this acceptance a child of God, born of God is forgiven by God of all temporal sin to the point of the confession. ALL of the child of God, born of God's daily sins up to the point of confession are completely cleansed. This is like eternal salvation in that the cleansing we receive is by accepting our guilt and trusting in God to make it right - through the sacrifice of His Son for our sins. When eternal salvation occurs our sins are cleansed for all eternity by being promised a new nature - a new righteousness from Christ, (Rom 3:21-24). And when confession of sin occurs in a child of God, born of God, that child of God, born of God's sins up to that moment are cleansed relative to now being placed back into fellowship with God - no longer under His discipline, (Hebrews 12:4-6) - no longer grieving the Holy Spirit with sin, (Eph 4:17-30) - but throughout it all always remaining a child of God forever - a born again child of God, (Jn 1:12-13). You are in fellowship with God your Father until you sin again.

5) We Children Of God, Born Of God Including Apostles Must Be Vigilant Of Our Own Sinfulness And Confess From Moment To Moment When An Inevitable Shortcoming Is Revealed To Us In The Light Of God's Absolute Righteousness

Note that as we children of God, born of God including apostles find ourselves in fellowship with God as a result of confession to God, we must still be prepared at all times to be conscious of the light of God's Absolute Righteousness as well as ever vigilant of our own sinfulness and confess from moment to moment when a shortcoming is revealed to us in the Light of God's Absolute Righteousness. So as long as we walk in the Light of God's Absolute Righteousness by acknowledging His Holiness all the time, God will reveal to us our failures in the Light of His Holiness; and when failure inevitably happens we should confess it to restore our fellowship with Him.

6) In Order To Walk In The Light And Confess Known Sins, We Children Of God, Born Of God Including The Apostles Are Commanded To Be Discerning Of What Is Right And What Is Wrong - What Represents The Absolute Holiness Of God And What Does Not. This Necessitates An Earnest Study Of The Bible And A Constant Acknowledgment To God When One Does Not Conform To The Standard Of God's Holiness

The more consistent our walk in the Light of God, the more we walk away from those things which our sin natures move us to do such as refusing to acknowledge the Perfect Light of God, denying we have an ever present evil nature in our character and denying that we commit sins all the time. All mental and physical activity which acknowledges a Holy God distances us from activity toward the darkness in our temporal lives. Note that the pursuit of walking in the Light of God's Absolute Righteousness is enhanced by the pursuit of the knowledge of God through study of the Word of God, such as what John wrote in his first epistle.

In order to walk in the light and confess known sins to God, we children of God, born of God including the apostles are commanded to be discerning of what is right and what is wrong - of what represents the absolute holiness of God and what does not. This necessitates an earnest study of the bible and a constant acknowledgment to God when one does not conform to the standard of God's holiness.

7) Confession Of The Child Of God, Born Of God Of His Sins Is A Repentance / A Change Of Mind From Not Acknowledging His Sins To Acknowledging Them Before God. This Does Not Require An Emotional Reaction Such As Feeling Sorry, Although That May Occur; Nor Does It Have In View A Repentance From Committing Acts Of Sin To Sinless Perfection, Which Is Neither Possible With Mortal Sinful Man Nor Is It In View In First John Chapter One

Confession of the child of God, born of God of his sins is a repentance / a change of mind from not acknowledging his sins to acknowledging them before God. This does not require an emotional reaction such as feeling sorry, although that may occur; nor does it have in view a repentance from committing acts of sin to sinless perfection, which is neither possible with mortal sinful man, nor is it in view in First John chapter one.

a) Vine's Expository Dictionary of Old and New Testament Words, W.E. Vine, Revell Publishing, Old Tappan, New Jersey, 1981, pp. 279-280), defines the verb to repent:

"METANOEO, lit., to perceive afterwards (meta, after, implying change, noeo, to perceive; [comes from the Greek noun] nous, the mind, the seat of moral reflection), in contrast to pronoeo, to perceive beforehand, hence signifies to change one's mind or purpose..." ).

So the Greek verb "metanoeo" = to repent relative to a child of God, born of God being in fellowship with God means for him to change his mind about willfully refusing to acknowledge that he has shortcomings in his life before a Holy God to confessing them to God. Although the basis for maintaining fellowship with God is simply one of acknowledging Who God is - Absolute Righteousness and then by confessing ones shortcomings before Him in the light of God's Absolute Righteousness on a moment to moment basis. And the more a child of God, born of God distances himself from repeating those shortcomings, the greater the opportunity he has to enjoy the blessings of fellowship with the LORD through confession.

8) Old Testament Provisions Of Confession For Forgiveness Of Temporal Sins Of The Child Of God, Born Of God Indicate That There Are Blessings From The LORD Provided To The Child Of God, Born Of God Who Confesses His Sins

Compare what David, a believer, states in Psalm 32:5:

a) [Ps 32:1-11]:

(Ps 32:1 NASB) "How blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, Whose sin is covered!

(Ps 32:2 NASB) How blessed is the man to whom the LORD does not impute iniquity, And in whose spirit there is no deceit!

(Ps 32:3 NASB) When I kept silent about my sin, my body wasted away Through my groaning all day long.

(Ps 32:4 NASB) For day and night Your hand was heavy upon me; My vitality was drained away as with the fever heat of summer. Selah.

(Ps 32:5 NASB) I acknowledged my sin to You, And my iniquity I did not hide; I said, 'I will confess my transgressions to the LORD'; And You forgave the guilt of my sin. Selah.

(Ps 32:6 NASB) Therefore, let everyone who is godly pray to You in a time when You may be found; Surely in a flood of great waters they will not reach him.

(Ps 32:7 NASB) You are my hiding place; You preserve me from trouble; You surround me with songs of deliverance. Selah.

(Ps 32:8 NASB) I will instruct you and teach you in the way which you should go; I will counsel you with My eye upon you.

(Ps 32:9 NASB) Do not be as the horse or as the mule which have no understanding, Whose trappings include bit and bridle to hold them in check, Otherwise they will not come near to you.

(Ps 32:10 NASB) Many are the sorrows of the wicked, But he who trusts in the LORD, lovingkindness shall surround him.

(Ps 32:11 NASB) Be glad in the LORD and rejoice, you righteous ones; And shout for joy, all you who are upright in heart."

The sacrifice of a goat or a lamb under certain Mosaic Law provisions was meant to be a picture of an individual's acknowledgment to God of certain sins committed which then results in God's forgiveness of those 'confessed' sins:

b) [Lev 4:27-35]:

(Lev 4:27 NASB) " 'Now if anyone of the common people sins unintentionally in doing any of the things which the LORD has commanded not to be done, and becomes guilty,

(Lev 4:27 NASB) if his sin which he has committed is made known to him, then he shall bring forth his offering a goat, a female without defect, for his sin which he has committed.

(Lev 4:27 NASB) 'He shall lay his hand on the head of the sin offering and slay the sin offering at the place of the burnt offering.

(Lev 4:27 NASB) 'The priest shall take some of its blood with his finger and put it on the horns of the altar of burnt offering; and all the rest of its blood he shall pour out at the base of the altar.

(Lev 4:27 NASB) Then he shall remove all its fat, just as the fat was removed from the sacrifice of peace offerings; and the priest shall offer it up in smoke on the altar for a soothing aroma to the LORD. Thus the priest shall make atonement for him, and he will be forgiven.

(Lev 4:27 NASB) 'But if he brings a lamb as his offering for a sin offering, he shall bring it, a female without defect.

(Lev 4:27 NASB) 'He shall lay his hand on the head of the sin offering and slay it for a sin offering in the place where they slay the burnt offering.

(Lev 4:27 NASB) 'The priest is to take some of the blood of the sin offering with his finger and put it on the horns of the altar of burnt offering, and all the rest of its blood he shall pour out at the base of the altar.

(Lev 4:27 NASB) 'Then he shall remove all its fat, just as the fat of the lamb is removed from the sacrifice of the peace offerings, and the priest shall offer them up in smoke on the altar, on the offerings by fire to the LORD. Thus the priest shall make atonement for him in regard to his sin which he has committed, and he will be forgiven.' "

Note that old testament saints were saved unto eternal life in the same way by a moment of faith alone in Christ (the Messiah Savior) to come alone except that they looked forward to the time of His provision for their sins, (ref. Ro 4:1; Jn 3:16; Heb 11:4, 13); whereas church age children of God, born of God look back in time, (Eph 1:3-2:9). Fellowship with God for old testament believers came as a result of confession and practice of various acts such as stipulated under Mosaic Law, (cp Lev 4:3, 5:5; 5:15-19; Ex 30:19-21, 40:11-12, 30-31; Pr 28:13; Ps 32:5).

c) [Compare Lev 5:1-6]:

(Lev 5:1 NASB) " 'Now if a person sins after he hears a public adjuration to testify when he is a witness, whether he has seen or otherwise known, if he does not tell it, then he will bear his guilt.

(Lev 5:2 NASB) 'Or if a person touches any unclean thing, whether a carcass of an unclean beast or the carcass of unclean cattle or a carcass of unclean swarming things, though it is hidden from him and he is unclean,
and then he comes to know it, then he will be guilty.

(Lev 5:3 NASB) 'Or if he touches human uncleanness, of whatever sort his uncleanness may be with which he becomes unclean, and it is hidden from him, and then he comes to know it, he will be guilty.

(Lev 5:4 NASB) 'Or if a person swears thoughtlessly with his lips to do evil or to do good, in whatever matter a man may speak thoughtlessly with an oath, and it is hidden from him, and then he comes to know it, he will be guilty in one of these.

(Lev 5:5 NASB) 'So it shall be when he becomes guilty in one of these, that he shall confess that in which he has sinned.

(Lev 5:6 NASB) 'He shall also bring his guilt offering to the LORD for his sin which he has committed, a female from the flock, a lamb or a goat as a sin offering. So the priest shall make atonement on his behalf for his sin."

d) [Compare Pr 28:13]:

(Pr 28:13 NASB) "He who conceals his transgressions will not prosper, But he who confesses and forsakes them will find compassion."

J) (1 Jn 1:10) IF WE SHOULD SAY THAT WE HAVE NOT SINNED - CLAIMING PERIODS OF SINLESS PERFECTION - WE MAKE GOD OUT TO BE A LIAR AND HIS WORD IS NOT IN US RELATIVE TO THIS MATTER

(1 Jn 1:10 NASB) "If we [should] say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us."

The first phrase in verse 10, "If we [should] say that we have not sinned" comprises the first clause of a 3rd class If-Then statement. The Greek verb form "ean eipOmen" rendered "If we should say" is in the aorist tense and the subjunctive mood conveys a completed action of maybe we do say, and maybe we do not say. The subjunctive mood of objective possibility - a message of children of God, born of God's potential of making a statement that they have not sinned - a potential of claiming the experience of a period of sinless perfection. For the Greek words "hEmartEkamen" rendered "we have not sinned" is in the perfect tense conveying a moment in time when sinless action began in the past and which continues through the present. This denial of committing sin might even be a denial that we children of God, born of God have ever or at anytime sinned. So if instead of confessing as sin what the light of God has shown us to be sin, if we children of God, born of God categorically deny the testimony of God's Word and the message in our minds given to us by the Holy Spirit about our falling short of the Absolute Righteousness of God, then the result will be as stated in the second clause:

The second clause of the If-Then statement, "we make Him a liar and His word is not in us," declares the result if we children of God, born of God do say that we have not sinned then we make God out to be a liar and His word is not in us, implying that God and His Word which characterize all men as constantly sinful, committing sins all the time without the possibility of moments of sinless perfection are liars. By denying that testimony of God, we in effect charge God with untruthfulness, untrustworthiness and evil. Note that the extant nature from which comes sinful actions and the new born of God nature from which comes godly righteousness have both been in view in the children of God, born of God in First John up to this point.

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[JP]

My friend, you are looking at someone who went all the way with the traditional interpretation and understanding of this verse. As a young adult earnestly wanting to live a holy life and please God, I started confessing my sins all the time when I received that teaching. I didn’t want to spend even one minute not being “right with God.” So when just one wrong thought crossed my mind, I would confess that sin immediately. I would cover my mouth and whisper my confession, even if I was in the middle of a soccer match with my friends!

Needless to say, I appeared weird to my friends. I was also perplexed as to why my Christian friends weren’t confessing their sins as I was. Why weren’t they serious about wanting to be 100 percent right with God?

The constant, unceasing confession of my sins made me extremely sin-conscious. I became so aware of and troubled by every negative thought that I believed there was no more forgiveness for my sins. I even began to believe that I had lost my salvation and was going to hell! The enemy took advantage of my obsession with needing to confess every sin and placed me under constant condemnation. The oppression grew so heavy that I felt as if my mind was about to snap!


[BSM]

You missed the context then and still miss it now!!!! The subject is fellowship - temporal fellowship with God NOT eternal life or the maintenance thereof!!! You do not maintain eternal life by constantly confessing ALL OF YOUIR SINS MOMENT TO MOMENT TO MOMENT. THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!! All sins are paid for 1 Jn 2:2 for all mankind, and all sins past, present and future are forgiven unto eternal life for the one who expresses a moment of faith alone in Christ alone, Acts 10:43. So you have eternal life no matter how you conduct your temporal life. You are going to heaven whether you like it or not. Some believers may even go kicking and screaming off to heaven. Note that many misinterpret Ro 10:9-10 to require confession to receive eternal life as well. Such is not the case. Check this out here


[JP]

I’ve shared more extensively about my past struggle with 1 John 1:9 and what the verse is actually about in my book "unmerited favor".6 So let me give you just a quick understanding of the subject here:

         The first chapter of 1 John was not written to believers but to Gnostics who did not believe that Jesus came in the flesh, hence the uncharacteristic opening in the first epistle of John.7 There was no greeting to believers, unlike what we find in his second and third epistles. Instead, the apostle John opens up his first epistle with a direct address to the serious heresy of the Gnostics—“That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled” (1 John 1:1). John was telling them that Jesus had indeed come in the flesh, as he and his fellow disciples had heard, seen, and touched Jesus.


[BSM]

The first chapter of 1 John is written to believers not to Gnostics or any unbelievers:

1) The stated purpose of 1 Jn 1:1-10, especially v. 3, is fellowship with God and His Son for the readers and the apostles, i.e., all believers. For only they have available to them a means for fellowship with God and His Son, hence the first chapter and the entire epistle of First John is written to believers, and no one else. Gnostics do not have the means by which they can have fellowship with the apostles, believers and most of all, God and His Son until they become believers by expressing a moment of faith alone in Christ's propitiation alone for their sins unto eternal life. Confession will not do it until they become believers. Gnostics don't believe in the Christ of the Bible, so why would they desire and confess their sins in order to have fellowship with the Christ of the Bible?


2) There is no mandate that John must always begin his writing in the same way. As a matter of fact the first three verses imply that the letter is addressed to believers and believers alone because only believers have available to them a means for fellowship with God and His Son. And the only kind of people God and His Son and the apostles desire to have fellowship with is believers:


a) [Compare 1 Jn 1:1-3 NASB]:

"1 Jn 1:1 YLT) "That which was from the beginning, that which we have heard, that which we have seen with our eyes, that which we did behold [in the sense of gazeed intently upon], and our hands did handle, concerning the Word of ... Life - (1 Jn 1:2 NASB) and [indeed] the Life was manifested, and we have seen and testify and proclaim to you the Eternal Life, which was with the Father and was manifested to us - (1 Jn 1:3 NASB) what we have seen and heard we proclaim to you *also, so that you too may have fellowship with us; and indeed our fellowship is with the Father, and with His Son Jesus Christ."


3) Just as John began his gospel and addressed Who God is and Who Jesus is - both God and man without someone deciding that his gospel was directed at Gnostics, so 1 Jn 1 addresses Who God is and Who Jesus is with a special messsage NOT TO GNOSTICS but to believers authenticating the apostles including John as authoritative in what they wrote because of their intimate personal even physical contact with Jesus in His Humanity and what He taught to them. So there is no need to restrict John's message to Gnostics or unbelievers.

[JP]

         It is only in chapter 2 of John’s first epistle that you see the phrase “My little children” for the first time, intimating that from that chapter on, the apostle John was addressing believers.

[BSM]

Chapter headings are artificial and may not indicate a change of audience / readership. As a matter of fact there is no change of readership evident in the context as previously stipulated above. For the context of chapter one cannot apply to unbelievers or Gnostics because having fellowship with the apostles, God and Jesus Christ is not an option until one becomes a believer. So unbelievers and Gnostics are not in view in chapter one at all.

Secondly, the phrase "My little children" is not out of place at all. It is obvious who chapter one of First John is addressing: believers only. And the phrase rendered "My little children is well placed- an endearment describing to whom the first chapter is written to: believers, affirming that believers are in view in chapter one and ongoing.


[JP]

         The Gnostics also believed that they had no sin. So the apostle John was telling them that if they would acknowledge and confess their sins, God would forgive them and cleanse them from all unrighteousness (1 John 1:8–9).


[BSM]

Since the Gnostics believed that they had no sin why would John address 1 John chapter one to them!!! They are not interested in being told they are accountable to God or anyone for sinful behavior? It is obvious that chapter one is addressed to believers not Gnostics. Furthermore, believers are not perfect in this temporal life. Hence 1 Jn 1 addresses this fact - that those believers who claim to have not sinned are not telling the truth. Besides that, you don't get to acknowledge your sins and confess them [redundant] and receive forgiveness of sins and be cleansed from all unrightenousness unto eternal life. Confession is a work, it is proactive toward that end of forgiveness; and therefore cancels out God's grace of forgiveness, (Ro 11:6).

Your reference to 1 Jn 1:8, which reads in the NASB, "If we [believers] should say that we have no sin, we [deceive] ourselves and the truth is not in us" is puzzling. Since Gnostics and many unbelievers do not consider that they are accountable to God for any wrong doing, so what if they say they have no sin. That's what they believe. And since they are not believers in Christ for salvation unto eternal life, confession will accomplish nothing in the way of forgiveness of sins that they don't believe they have any to confess in the first place. This is nonsensical.

[JP]

         The early Christians did not have the book of 1 John for some fifty years, so their getting “right with God” could not have been through the confession of sins.


[BSM]

Why not? Temporal forgiveness of sins through confession has been available for hundreds of years before the First Century. Besides that believers verbally conveyed the doctrines of the New Testament Bible from the beginning when the Church Age began, which included forgiveness of temporal sins unto fellowship with God and eternal sins unto eternal life, authenticating their oral teaching via miracles. Let's look at the 'Old Testament' period.

CONFESS: IN THE OLD TESTAMENT


Compare what David, a believer, states in Psalm 32:5:

[Ps 32:5]:

"I [David] acknowledged my sin to Thee,

And my iniquity did not hide;

I said, 'I will confess my transgressions to the LORD'

And Thou didst forgive the guilt of my sin."

Note that old testament saints were saved unto eternal life in the same faith alone in Christ (the Messiah Savior) alone way except that they looked forward to the time of the cross, (ref. Ro 4:1; Jn 3:16; Heb 11:4, 13); whereas church age believers look back in time, (Eph 1:3-2:9).

Fellowship with God for old testament believers came as a result of confession and practice of various acts such as stipulated under Mosaic Law, (cp Lev 4:3, 5:5; 5:15-19; Ex 30:19-21, 40:11-12, 30-31; Pr 28:13; Ps 32:5).

[Compare Lev 5:5-6]:

(v. 5) "When anyone is guilty in any of these ways [vv. 1-4], he must confess in what way he has sinned

(v. 6) and, as a penalty for the sin he has committed, he must bring to the LORD a female lamb or goat from the flock as a sin offering; and the priest shall make atonement for him for his sin."

The sacrifice of a goat or a lamb under certain Mosaic Law provisions was meant to be a picture of an individual's acknowledgment to God of certain sins committed which then results in God's forgiveness of those 'confessed' sins:

[Lev 4:27-35]:

(v. 27) "Now if anyone of the common people sins unintentionally in doing any of the things which the LORD has commanded not to be done, and becomes guilty.

[i.e., becomes aware of his sin]

(v. 28) if his sin, which he has committed is made known to him, then he shall bring forth his offering a goat, a female without defect, for his sin which he has committed.

(v. 29) And he shall lay his hand on the head of the sin offering, and slay the sin offering at the place of the burnt offering.

(v. 30) And the priest shall take some of its blood with his finger and put it on the horns of the altar of burnt offering; and all the rest of its blood he shall pour out at the base of the altar.

(v. 31) Then he shall remove all its fat, just as the fat was removed from the sacrifice of peace offerings; and the priest shall offer it up in smoke on the altar for a soothing aroma to the LORD. Thus the priest shall offer it up in smoke on the altar for a soothing aroma to the LORD. Thus the priest shall make atonement for him, and he shall be forgiven.

(v. 32) But if he brings a lamb as his offering for a sin offering, he shall bring it, a female without defect.

(v. 33) And he shall lay his hand on the head of the sin offering, and slay it for a sin offering in the place where they slay the burnt offering.

(v. 34) And the priest is to take some of the blood of the sin offering with his finger and put it on the horns of the altar of burnt offering; and all the rest of its blood he shall pour out at the base of the altar.

(v. 35) Then he shall remove all its fat, just as the fat of the lamb is removed from the sacrifice of the peace offerings, and the priest shall offer them up in smoke on the altar, on the offerings by fire to the LORD. Thus the priest shall make atonement for him in regard to his sin which he has committed, and he shall be forgiven."

[Compare Pr 28:13]:

"He who conceals his transgressions will not prosper,

But he who confesses and forsakes them will find compassion.

[JP]


         Apostle Paul, who wrote two-thirds of the epistles to the churches, never once taught on confession of sins. In fact, in his letter to the Corinthian Christians, many of whom were committing sins like visiting temple prostitutes, he didn’t tell them to go and confess their sins to get right with God. Rather he reminded them of who they were in Christ—“Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?” (1 Cor. 3:16 KJV).

         Our being “right with God” is not based on the imperfect confession of sins by imperfect man, but on the riches of God’s grace and the perfect sacrifice of His Son.

         Those who believe that 1 John 1:9 is telling believers to confess their sin every time they sin need to realize that every sin needs to be recognized and confessed (otherwise, based on that verse, one is still unrighteous). You cannot pick and choose what to confess or confess only the sins you remember. And it is not humanly possible to confess every sin in thought, word, and deed.

         The word confess in 1 John 1:9 is the Greek word homologeo, which means “to say the same thing as” or “to agree with.”8 To confess our sins, therefore, is to say the same things about our sins as God does: that it is sin, and that our sins have been forgiven and washed away by the blood of our Lord Jesus Christ (Rev. 1:5). When you have sinned and realize you have sinned, true confession is agreeing with God’s Word and expressing your gratefulness to Him for the reality of your forgiveness in Christ.

[BSM]

"Expressing our gratefulness to Him [God] for the reality of our forgiveness in Christ" is NOT IN THIS VERSE! Stop addingto Scripture. This verse says confess what God brings to your mind - confess only those particular sins and we are forgiven of those sins we confessed and also purified from ALL unrighteousness relative to what sins we believers are commiting for the moment = all of the sins that are temporal. Eternal life is not in view, those sins have already been forgiven relative to eternal life - all of them past, present [temporal life] and future at the point of a moment of faith alone in Christ alone. The sins in view in this verse 1 Jn 1:9 are relative to temporal / day to day = temporal life for fellowship- not for eternal life. No where in the passage are words that indicate eternal life forgiveness.

Note that the text indicates we believers confess those sins that we are reminded of by God to have committed, whereupon God forgives us those particular sins that He has reminded us of committing and then purifies us from all unrighteousness, i.e., all sins that He has not reminded us of committing. So individual acts of sins are in view and not original sin!!!!! Nor eternal life.


So the Greek verb form "homologOmen" rendered "confess" is composed of "homo" meaning the same, and "logOmen" meaning "we say" from the Greek verb "lego," to speak. "HomologOmen" therefore means to say the same thing back to God that the Holy Spirit is saying to us: The Holy Spirit is bringing certain sins which we have committed to our attention - NOT EVERY SIN - which we are to confess back to God. The verb is in the present tense conveying a duration - a continuance in time which is dependent upon how long a particular child of God, born of God has been committing certain sins and has fallen out of fellowship with God as a result and is due to confess his sins - those sins that God has brought to the believer's attention. The Greek phrase "ean homologOmen tas hamartias hEmOn" rendered "If we should confess our sins," is the first part of a third class If-Then statement. It is in the subjunctive mood conveying objective possibility; i.e., maybe we children of God, born of God will and maybe we won't acknowledge back to God what He is reminding us of committing certain / particular sin(s)
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[JP]

[To the theologian, I want to share with you a powerful revelation that the Lord has opened my eyes to. In my study, He asked me to examine the word sins in 1 John 1:9 and to see if it is a noun or verb in the original Greek text. Are you ready for this?

In the two instances where we see the word “sins” in 1 John 1:9, it is the Greek noun hamartia that is used. According to well-known Bible scholar William Vine, hamartia (“a missing of the mark”) indicates “a principle or source of action, or an inward element producing acts . . . a governing principle or power.”9 In other words, it refers to the sin principle, or our sinful state on account of Adam’s sin. By using the noun form of this word, John was clearly not referring to our committing of individual acts of sin, or he would have used the verb form, hamartano.

That’s why 1 John 1:9 is primarily a salvation verse, one that encourages the sinner to acknowledge and confess his sinful state or “sinnerhood,” get born again by faith in our Lord Jesus Christ, and have his sinful state through Adam replaced with a new righteous state through Christ. The heretical Gnostic doctrine did not subscribe to a belief in man’s sinful state. John was addressing this heresy directly in the first chapter of 1 John and encouraging the Gnostics to confess their sinful state and receive the Lord’s complete forgiveness and total cleansing from all their unrighteousness through His finished work at the cross.


[BSM]

This is an unwarranted restriction of the Greek definitions of both words "hamartia" and "hamartano" which have the available meanings which include act or acts of sin. The context of the passage demands acts of sin, because the last part of the verse indicates that God purifies the believer of all unrighteousness, i.e., all acts of sin beyond forgiveness of the sin(s) confessed. Certainly God is not purifying the believer of his sin nature, his sin principle that he inherited by birth from Adam. Surely he does not need to repeatedly purify himself of his sin principle, his sin nature, of which he has only one, not many. That will occur in his experience when he receives his resurrection body which will have no sin nature. For God has already forgiven the believer of all of his acts of sin relative to the reception of eternal life which his sin principle - his sin nature will ever produce. I have found no credible versions that hold to Joseph Prince's interpretation.

[JP]

In light of this, can you see how 1 John 1:9 is not talking about confessing our sins every time we sin in thought or in deed? John was speaking of the need to acknowledge and confess to God that we are sinners because of Adam’s sin, as well as to receive the total forgiveness for all our sins through Jesus’ finished work. How often do we need to do this? Only once.


[BSM]

I) (1 Jn 1:9) IF WE CHILDREN OF GOD, BORN OF GOD - APOSTLES INCLUDED - SHOULD CONFESS OUR SINS - IN THE SENSE OF SHOULD WE CONSTANTLY ACKNOWLEDGE THE PARTICULAR ACTS OF SIN WE CHILDREN OF GOD, BORN OF GOD INEVITABLY, CONSTANTLY COMMIT THAT ARE BROUGHT TO OUR MINDS BY GOD WITH A VIEW TO HIS PERFECT RIGHTEOUSNESS; THEN GOD IS FAITHFUL - ABSOLUTELY TRUSTWORTHY AND RIGHTEOUS / JUSTIFIED IN FORGIVING OUR SINS WHICH WE CONSTANTLY CONFESS. AND HE IS JUSTIFIED IN CONTINUALLY PURIFYING US FROM ALL OF OUR UNRIGHTEOUSNESS UNTO TEMPORAL FELLOWSHIP ONCE MORE WITH HIMSELF; FORENSICALLY JUSTIFIED BECAUSE THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST, HIS SON PAID FOR THE SINS OF ALL MANKIND

(1 Jn 1:9 NASB) "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us *our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." =

[*"our" in the phrase "He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins" is in 01Sinaiticus 04C, 044Psi 81 614 623 630 1505, 1852, 2464, 2495 - the best manuscript evidence for this variation. Although the alternative reading has the Greek definite article "tas" rendered "the" in lieu of "our," it is an article of previous reference, referring to the first phrase in the verse, "If we confess .our sins." So the meaning of "our" is implied. Hence either rendering suits the context of the passage]

1) If We Children Of God, born of God - Apostles Included - Should Confess Our Sins, Our Acts Of Sin (Plural) Which We Inevitably And Constantly Commit Which Are Brought To Our Minds By God

"If we confess our sins" =

First John 1:7, which reads, "But if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, [One = God, with another = with each of we children of God, born of God walking in the light], and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin," is saying the same thing as "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness" in verse 9. The issue in the phrase in verse 7 of walking in the light is not a matter of walking with God through one's own effort, which would be expressed differently as "walk according to the Light." It is actually a matter of recognition of one's own depravity - of recognition of one's incompatibility with the Absolute Holiness and Righteousness of God, (1 Jn 1:5). It is not a matter of repenting unto behaving better, as some contend; but a matter of confessing one's sins.

So to walk in the light in order to be in fellowship with God is further explained by author John in verse 9: "If we" [children of God, born of God including apostles] "confess our sins" [in the sense of if we should acknowledge to God particular sins God is bringing to our minds which we are committing] "He [God] is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."

The Greek verb form "homologOmen" rendered "confess" is composed of "homo" meaning the same, and "logOmen" meaning "we say" from the Greek verb "lego," to speak. "HomologOmen" therefore means to say the same thing back to God that the Holy Spirit is saying to us: The Holy Spirit is bringing certain sins which we have committed to our attention which we are to confess back to God. The verb is in the present tense conveying a duration - a continuance in time which is dependent upon how long a particular child of God, born of God has been committing sins and has fallen out of fellowship with God and is due to confess his sins those particular ones. The Greek phrase "ean homologOmen tas hamartias hEmOn" rendered "If we should confess our sins," is the first part of a third class If-Then statement. It is in the subjunctive mood conveying objective possibility; i.e., maybe we children of God, born of God will and maybe we won't acknowledge back to God what He is reminding us of committing particular sins.

The Greek noun "hamartias" in the phrase "tas hamartias hEmOn" rendered "our sins" is plural, signifying acts of sin which we children of God, born of God have committed. The singular form of sin which might signify the sin principle / the sin nature is NOT in view.

2) And As We Children Of God, Born Of God Confess Our Particular Acts Of Sin, The Character Of God Being Absolutely Trustworthy And Absolutely Righteous, He Will Forgive Us Our Sins That We Have Confessed And Purify Us From All Unrighteousness Unto Temporal Fellowship Once More With Him. For God's Forgiveness And Cleansing Is Forensically Justified Because The Blood Of His Son, Jesus Was Shed For Us And For All Mankind To Pay For The Sins Of Mankind - for both the temporal life of the believer and for eternal life for all who have believed in His Son's payment of ones sins.

"He [God] is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." =

Rather than continuing to deny that we are committing particular acts of sin by not acknowledging them to God, Who is reminding us of our falling short of His Absolute Righteousness, we children of God, born of God - apostles included - are being given the opportunity to acknowledge our sins freely back to God as we are committing them. Once we confess our particular acts of sin which we have committed, the character of God being Absolutely Trustworthy, (cf. Jer 31:34), and Absolutely Righteous, (Ps 71:19); as promised, He will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness unto fellowship once more with God including those sins which we confessing children of God, born of God are not aware of; until God provides the next reminder of our falling short of His Absolute Righteousness.

For as Scripture promises, God has always been and will be true to His nature of being Absolutely Faithful and Trustworthy - fulfilling every promise He makes. For "God is Light, and there is no darkness in Him at all," (cf. 1 Jn 1:5). God "is faithful" because He is Who He is: Absolute Faithfulness. Consider especially the unfathomable gift of the life of the Son of God promised to mankind throughout the ages and faithfully dying on the cross and rising from the dead for our sins as prophesied.

Children of God, born of God including apostles who confess known sins are temporally cleansed of those sins which they have confessed; whereupon they are also temporally cleansed from all unrighteousness. Although no sin can go unpunished without impugning God's Perfect Justice; and the mercy of God cannot be invoked without the justice of God being satisified. We need not fear that God will refuse to forgive because it would not be 'right' for Him to do so in the sense that no payment was made to provide His temporal forgiveness. There is no compromise of God's Absolute Righteousness when He does forgive the child of God, born of God who confesses his sins to Him. For the sins of all mankind have been atoned for by Jesus Christ for eternal forgiveness for any who trust in that eternal provision, (becoming children of God, born of God, 1 Jn 5:9-13); as well as for temporal forgiveness / cleansing of sins - a familial forgiveness provided for those who are already children of God, born of God: those of the family of God - those who have believed in Jesus' name for eternal life, (Jn 1:12-13) - in order to provide the blessings of temporal fellowship with a Holy God while in their mortal bodies. So God is righteous in doing this, i.e., God is judicially justified in cleansing us children of God, born of God of all of our sins who confess them because He has made a grace provsion for the temporal forgiveness / cleansing of sins through the shed blood of His Son, Jesus Christ in temporal payment for all sins confessed and unconfessed - activated for the times when any child of God, born of God is walking in the Light of God's Absolute Righteousness, (ref. 1 Jn 1:7; 2:2), by confessing his sins in order to provide fellowship with God his Father.

The child of God, born of God is then cleansed of temporal sins on the basis of what Jesus his Savior did for him on the cross. That child of God, born of God, for the moment, is in fellowship with God, i.e., abiding in Christ until he violates a principle / command from God's Word again that he is reminded of to confess.

3) Since Confession Of Sins Is Never Connected In Scripture With The Acquisition Of Eternal Life; And Since The Reception Of Eternal Life Is Not Stipulated As A Result Of Confession, (But Temporal Fellowship Is); And Since Eternal Life Is Always Conditioned Solely Upon A Moment Of Faith Alone In Jesus Christ Alone Plus Nothing Else In Scripture; And Since Unbelievers Are Not In View In First John Chapter One, (But Children Of God, Born Of God Are); Then First John Chapter One Is Not Giving Instruction To Unbelievers Or Children Of God, Born Of God On How To Have Eternal Life Via Confession Of Sins.

Since confession of sins is never connected in Scripture with the acquisition of eternal life. Other passages that have confession of sins in view do not provide eternal life either; and since eternal life is not so named as a result of such an action or any action in 1 Jn chapter one - directly or indirectly - but (temporal) fellowship of children of God, born of God including apostles with one another and God is, (vv. 3, 6, 7); and since eternal life is always conditioned solely via a moment of faith alone in Jesus Christ alone plus nothing else throughout Scripture, (Jn 1:12-13; 3:16-18; 3:36, 5:24; 6:29, 35, 40, 47; 20:31; 1 Jn 5:9-13 ) - resulting in an irreversible spiritual birth and an irrevocable promise of eternal life; and since there are no requirements of an individual other than a one time expression of faith in Christ and certainly no ongoing qualifiers built into God's plan of salvation, (Eph 2:8-9; 1:13-14; Ro 11:29); and since unbelievers are not in view in First John chapter one; then First John chapter one is not giving instruction to unbelievers or believers on how to have eternal life via confession of sins, as some contend.

4) Although A Child Of God, Born Of God Already Has Forgiveness In Christ Relative To Eternal Life Forever As A Born Again Child Of God; Temporal / Familial Forgiveness Is Provided For That Born Again Child On A Moment To Moment Basis To Secure Temporal / Familial Fellowship With God For The Oft Failing Child When He Inevitably Sins Again

Some contend that a child of God, born of God already has forgiveness in Christ, (ref. Eph 1:7; 4:32; Col 1:14; 2:13) and does not need to confess his sins or do something for forgiveness of his sins as he commits them. But this point of view confuses the perfect / eternally secure position which a Christian has in God's Son (by which he is assured and even "seated... with Him in the heavenly realms" [Eph 1:13-14; 2:4-9]) with his temporal position before a Holy God as a continually flawed individual in his mortal body on earth. What is considered in 1 John 1:9 may be described as "temporal" or "familial" forgiveness. It is perfectly understandable how a son needs to have his human father forgive and cleanse him of his faults while at the same time his position within the family as a son is not in jeopardy.

This confession is not a deed but an admission, an acceptance of guilt. And by this acceptance a child of God, born of God is forgiven by God of all temporal sin to the point of the confession. ALL of the child of God, born of God's daily sins up to the point of confession are completely cleansed. This is like eternal salvation in that the cleansing we receive is by accepting our guilt and trusting in God to make it right - through the sacrifice of His Son for our sins. When eternal salvation occurs our sins are cleansed for all eternity by being promised a new nature - a new righteousness from Christ, (Rom 3:21-24). And when confession of sin occurs in a child of God, born of God, that child of God, born of God's sins up to that moment are cleansed relative to now being placed back into fellowship with God - no longer under His discipline, (Hebrews 12:4-6) - no longer grieving the Holy Spirit with sin, (Eph 4:17-30) - but throughout it all always remaining a child of God forever - a born again child of God, (Jn 1:12-13). You are in fellowship with God your Father until you sin again.

5) We Children Of God, Born Of God Including Apostles Must Be Vigilant Of Our Own Sinfulness And Confess From Moment To Moment When An Inevitable Shortcoming Is Revealed To Us In The Light Of God's Absolute Righteousness

Note that as we children of God, born of God including apostles find ourselves in fellowship with God as a result of confession to God, we must still be prepared at all times to be conscious of the light of God's Absolute Righteousness as well as ever vigilant of our own sinfulness and confess from moment to moment when a shortcoming is revealed to us in the Light of God's Absolute Righteousness. So as long as we walk in the Light of God's Absolute Righteousness by acknowledging His Holiness all the time, God will reveal to us our failures in the Light of His Holiness; and when failure inevitably happens we should confess it to restore our fellowship with Him.

6) In Order To Walk In The Light And Confess Known Sins, We Children Of God, Born Of God Including The Apostles Are Commanded To Be Discerning Of What Is Right And What Is Wrong - What Represents The Absolute Holiness Of God And What Does Not. This Necessitates An Earnest Study Of The Bible And A Constant Acknowledgment To God When One Does Not Conform To The Standard Of God's Holiness

The more consistent our walk in the Light of God, the more we walk away from those things which our sin natures move us to do such as refusing to acknowledge the Perfect Light of God, denying we have an ever present evil nature in our character and denying that we commit sins all the time. All mental and physical activity which acknowledges a Holy God distances us from activity toward the darkness in our temporal lives. Note that the pursuit of walking in the Light of God's Absolute Righteousness is enhanced by the pursuit of the knowledge of God through study of the Word of God, such as what John wrote in his first epistle.

In order to walk in the light and confess known sins to God, we children of God, born of God including the apostles are commanded to be discerning of what is right and what is wrong - of what represents the absolute holiness of God and what does not. This necessitates an earnest study of the bible and a constant acknowledgment to God when one does not conform to the standard of God's holiness.

7) Confession Of The Child Of God, Born Of God Of His Sins Is A Repentance / A Change Of Mind From Not Acknowledging His Sins To Acknowledging Them Before God. This Does Not Require An Emotional Reaction Such As Feeling Sorry, Although That May Occur; Nor Does It Have In View A Repentance From Committing Acts Of Sin To Sinless Perfection, Which Is Neither Possible With Mortal Sinful Man Nor Is It In View In First John Chapter One

Confession of the child of God, born of God of his sins is a repentance / a change of mind from not acknowledging his sins to acknowledging them before God. This does not require an emotional reaction such as feeling sorry, although that may occur; nor does it have in view a repentance from committing acts of sin to sinless perfection, which is neither possible with mortal sinful man, nor is it in view in First John chapter one.

a) Vine's Expository Dictionary of Old and New Testament Words, W.E. Vine, Revell Publishing, Old Tappan, New Jersey, 1981, pp. 279-280), defines the verb to repent:

"METANOEO, lit., to perceive afterwards (meta, after, implying change, noeo, to perceive; [comes from the Greek noun] nous, the mind, the seat of moral reflection), in contrast to pronoeo, to perceive beforehand, hence signifies to change one's mind or purpose..." ).
                              
So the Greek verb "metanoeo" = to repent relative to a child of God, born of God being in fellowship with God means for him to change his mind about willfully refusing to acknowledge that he has shortcomings in his life before a Holy God to confessing them to God. Although the basis for maintaining fellowship with God is simply one of acknowledging Who God is - Absolute Righteousness and then by confessing ones shortcomings before Him in the light of God's Absolute Righteousness on a moment to moment basis, (1 Jn 1:7). And the more a child of God, born of God distances himself from repeating those shortcomings, the greater the opportunity he has to enjoy the blessings of fellowship with the LORD through confession

8) Old Testament Provisions Of Confession For Forgiveness Of Temporal Sins Of The Child Of God, Born Of God Indicate That There Are Blessings From The LORD Provided To The Child Of God, Born Of God Who Confesses His Sins

Compare what David, a child of God, born of God, states in Psalm 32:5:

a) [Ps 32:1-11]:

(Ps 32:1 NASB) "How blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, Whose sin is covered!

(Ps 32:2 NASB) How blessed is the man to whom the LORD does not impute iniquity, And in whose spirit there is no deceit!

(Ps 32:3 NASB) When I kept silent about my sin, my body wasted away Through my groaning all day long.

(Ps 32:4 NASB) For day and night Your hand was heavy upon me; My vitality was drained away as with the fever heat of summer. Selah.

(Ps 32:5 NASB) I acknowledged my sin to You, And my iniquity I did not hide; I said, 'I will confess my transgressions to the LORD'; And You forgave the guilt of my sin. Selah.

(Ps 32:6 NASB) Therefore, let everyone who is godly pray to You in a time when You may be found; Surely in a flood of great waters they will not reach him.

(Ps 32:7 NASB) You are my hiding place; You preserve me from trouble; You surround me with songs of deliverance. Selah.

(Ps 32:8 NASB) I will instruct you and teach you in the way which you should go; I will counsel you with My eye upon you.

(Ps 32:9 NASB) Do not be as the horse or as the mule which have no understanding, Whose trappings include bit and bridle to hold them in check, Otherwise they will not come near to you.

(Ps 32:10 NASB) Many are the sorrows of the wicked, But he who trusts in the LORD, lovingkindness shall surround him.

(Ps 32:11 NASB) Be glad in the LORD and rejoice, you righteous ones; And shout for joy, all you who are upright in heart."

The sacrifice of a goat or a lamb under certain Mosaic Law provisions was meant to be a picture of an individual's acknowledgment to God of certain sins committed which then results in God's forgiveness of those 'confessed' sins:

b) [Lev 4:27-35]:

(Lev 4:27 NASB) " 'Now if anyone of the common people sins unintentionally in doing any of the things which the LORD has commanded not to be done, and becomes guilty,

(Lev 4:28 NASB) if his sin which he has committed is made known to him, then he shall bring for his offering a goat, a female without defect, for his sin which he has committed.

(Lev 4:29 NASB) 'He shall lay his hand on the head of the sin offering and slay the sin offering at the place of the burnt offering.

(Lev 4:30 NASB) 'The priest shall take some of its blood with his finger and put it on the horns of the altar of burnt offering; and all the rest of its blood he shall pour out at the base of the altar.

(Lev 4:31 NASB) Then he shall remove all its fat, just as the fat was removed from the sacrifice of peace offerings; and the priest shall offer it up in smoke on the altar for a soothing aroma to the LORD. Thus the priest shall make atonement for him, and he will be forgiven.

(Lev 4:32 NASB) 'But if he brings a lamb as his offering for a sin offering, he shall bring it, a female without defect.

(Lev 4:33 NASB) 'He shall lay his hand on the head of the sin offering and slay it for a sin offering in the place where they slay the burnt offering.

(Lev 4:34 NASB) 'The priest is to take some of the blood of the sin offering with his finger and put it on the horns of the altar of burnt offering, and all the rest of its blood he shall pour out at the base of the altar.

(Lev 4:35 NASB) 'Then he shall remove all its fat, just as the fat of the lamb is removed from the sacrifice of the peace offerings, and the priest shall offer them up in smoke on the altar, on the offerings by fire to the LORD. Thus the priest shall make atonement for him in regard to his sin which he has committed, and he will be forgiven.' "

Note that old testament saints were saved unto eternal life in the same way by a moment of faith alone in Christ (the Messiah Savior) to come alone except that they looked forward to the time of His provision for their sins, (ref. Ro 4:1; Jn 3:16; Heb 11:4, 13); whereas church age children of God, born of God look back in time, (Eph 1:3-2:9). Fellowship with God for old testament believers came as a result of confession and practice of various acts such as stipulated under Mosaic Law, (cp Lev 4:3, 5:5; 5:15-19; Ex 30:19-21, 40:11-12, 30-31; Pr 28:13; Ps 32:5).

c) [Compare Lev 5:1-6]:

(Lev 5:1 NASB) " 'Now if a person sins after he hears a public adjuration to testify when he is a witness, whether he has seen or otherwise known, if he does not tell it, then he will bear his guilt.

(Lev 5:2 NASB) 'Or if a person touches any unclean thing, whether a carcass of an unclean beast or the carcass of unclean cattle or a carcass of unclean swarming things, though it is hidden from him and he is unclean, then he will be guilty.

(Lev 5:3 NASB) 'Or if he touches human uncleanness, of whatever sort his uncleanness may be with which he becomes unclean, and it is hidden from him, and then he comes to know it, he will be guilty.

(Lev 5:4 NASB) 'Or if a person swears thoughtlessly with his lips to do evil or to do good, in whatever matter a man may speak thoughtlessly with an oath, and it is hidden from him, and then he comes to know it, he will be guilty in one of these.

(Lev 5:5 NASB) 'So it shall be when he becomes guilty in one of these, that he shall confess that in which he has sinned.

(Lev 5:6 NASB) 'He shall also bring his guilt offering to the LORD for his sin which he has committed, a female from the flock, a lamb or a goat as a sin offering. So the priest shall make atonement on his behalf for his sin."

d) [Compare Pr 28:13]:

(Pr 28:13 NASB) "He who conceals his transgressions will not prosper, But he who confesses and forsakes them will find compassion."


[JP]

Now, what does the apostle John say then, about our committing of sins after we’ve become believers? Just two verses later in the second chapter of 1 John, John answers this question as he begins his address to believers: “My little children, these things I write to you, so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous” (1 John 2:1).

This time, the words sin and sins are the Greek verb hamartano. John is now referring to believers’ committing of sins—their sinful thoughts and deeds. What does John say regarding this? He reminds us that when we fail as believers, we have an Advocate with the Father—Jesus Christ.

Because of our Lord Jesus and what He has accomplished at the cross, we have forgiveness and we still stand righteous before God even when we’ve missed it.

[BSM]

AGAIN YOU HAVE MISSED IT! Go back to the first 3 verses and read again of the first chapter. Believers' daily fellowship with God, not salvation unto eternal life is in view. Then go to verse 7: If we believers walk in the light of the Righteousness of God implying acknowledging when you as a believer fall short of the Light, the Righteousness of God, the blood of Jesus purifies us of all unrighteousness - unto FELLOWSHIP not unto eternal life. All of this points to Jesus being an Advocate with the Father because He paid for the sins of all mankind - payment for forgiveness of not only sins relative to eternal life but also sins relative to fellowship of the believer with God in their temporal lives. Don't you see the word fellowship in v. 3?

C) (1 Jn 1:1-4) WHAT JOHN AND FELLOW APOSTLES HAVE SEEN AND HEARD THEY PROCLAIM ALSO TO JOHN'S READERS / AND ALL CHILDREN OF GOD, BORN OF GOD SO THAT THEY TOO MAY HAVE FELLOWSHIP WITH THE APOSTLES AND INDEED THE APOSTLES' FELLOWSHIP IS WITH THE FATHER AND WITH HIS SON JESUS CHRIST, WHICH FELLOWSHIP READERS / AND ALL CHILDREN OF GOD, BORN OF GOD MAY HAVE AS WELL - THIS IS THE STATED PURPOSE OF THE EPISTLE

(1 Jn 1:1 YLT) "That which was from the beginning, that which we have heard, that which we have seen with our eyes, that which we did behold [in the sense of gazed intently upon], and our hands did handle, concerning the Word of ... Life - (1 Jn 1:2 NASB) and [indeed] the Life was manifested, and we have seen and testify and proclaim to you the Eternal Life, which was with the Father and was manifested to us - (1 Jn 1:3 NASB) "what we have seen and heard we proclaim to you *also, so that you too may have fellowship with us; and indeed our fellowship is with the Father, and with His Son Jesus Christ. (1 Jn 1:4 NASB) These things we write, so that our joy may be made complete." =

Of all the children of God, born of God John probably was the one who could understand and appreciate what this kind of fellowship could mean. He was one of the "inner circle," along with Peter and James, who had enjoyed special privileges; for example, witnessing the transfiguration of Jesus. He was very close to Jesus, possibly more than the other apostles (note in 1:1 how he refers to that relationship). He is referred to as "one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved" (John 13:23) and sat next to the Lord at the Last Supper. But he had enjoyed that fellowship for only a little more than 3 years; now he could enjoy it continually through the Spirit.

So John wrote that through what he and fellow apostles have heard, seen with their eyes, and gazed intently upon, and their hands have handled have thereby attained, he proclaims should be the goal of his readers / and all children of God, born of God - that through ones faith in Jesus Christ - the Eternal Life - one may also have (Greek "echEte," present tense), signifying having an ongoing fellowship with the apostles, (and with all children of God, born of God). And indeed - all the more - the fellowship that John and fellow apostles have with one another and with the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ, all children of God, born of God may also have with John and fellow apostles, with the Father and His Son and with one another - all part of the unity of all children of God, born of God through their faith in Jesus Christ.

[The First Epistle of John, Walking in the Light of God's Love, Zane Hodges, Grace Evangelical Society Publishers, Irving, Texas, 1999, pp. 51-52]:

"[The phrase rendered] "fellowship with us" into which author John invites the readers involves sharing the apostles' own "fellowship .... with the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ." This is a stunning claim. The author of the epistle is stating that he is part of a circle so intimate with God that if one has "fellowship with" his circle, one also has "fellowship with" God "the Father and with His Son!" But the claim is no more amazing than the one he also makes in 4:6: "We [apostles] are of God. He who knows God hears us; he who is not of God does not hear us."

The modern world, with its skepticism and unbelief, has virtually lost its respect for apostolic authority. To the modern and postmodern scholar, the apostles were mere creatures of their own, prescientific age.

Their viewpoints have no more authority than the modern mind feels willing to grant them, and the enlightened scholar of today always knows more than these 'ignorant and unlearned' men did.

But the biblical point of view is different. In the Christian faith, all claims to truth must be tested at the bar of apostolic authority. What the apostles said as representatives of a Risen Lord carried all the authority of the Lord Himself. To refuse to hear the apostles was to refuse to hear God Himself. In the same way, to be "out of fellowship" with apostolic thought and practice was to be "out of fellowship ... with the Father and the Son." There is no form of true Christian "fellowship" outside of apostolic truth, since the New Testament message is nothing more nor less than the truth which the Lord Jesus revealed to His apostles and which He commanded them to teach to us (John 14:26; Matthew 28:18-20).

[Note that a diligent study of Scripture, whether New Testament or Old Testament, in accordance with proper rules of language, context and logic results in a message from the apostles and Old Testament authors that is non-contradictory throughout, that perfectly fulfills every detail of prophecy so far, that has no spelling, grammatical, geographical or historical errors that can be substantiated; hence Scripture throughout corroborates the testimony of each of the apostles and each of the Old Testament authors as wholly reliable]

[Hodges, cont.]:

It is noteworthy, however, that in offering to share the apostolic experience with his readers, John mentions only "that which we have seen and heard." He does not repeat two ideas found in verse 1, namely, "which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled." The word translated "looked upon" (Greek: etheasametha) can suggest "the thought of attentive, careful regard, as in Mt 11:7. Since here this word follows the more common word, "seen," it is likely that John intended the more intensive sense, as we might say, "which we gazed at." Of the four words in verse 1 ("heard... seen... looked upon ... handled"), the first two, which are repeated in verse 3, are in the Greek perfect tense, while the last two, not repeated in verse 3, are in the aorist tense.

Although commentators are often guilty of overrefinement in handling the Greek tenses, the change of tense in verse 1 appears to be deliberate. The thought of "sharability" most likely underlines this shift of tense. In this context the verbs in the perfect imply the ongoing sharability of the experience of the apostles, while the two aorist verbs carry no such connotation. This explains why, in the present verse, [1 Jn 1:3], John speaks only of "that which we have seen and heard" as the basis of his shared "fellowship" with the readers.

Thus the apostles really could not share the experience of "gazing at" and "handling" the manifested Life. But they could share whatever was "seen" or "heard." And while all Christian "fellowship" with God must lie within the parameters of what the apostles saw and heard, the apostolic experience as a whole cannot be fully shared in this life. We must wait until we are in the presence of the Lord to "gaze at" or "handle" Him! But that is clearly something to look forward to."

The Greek word "koinOnian" rendered "fellowship" in vv. 3 and 6 means having communion with one another with an emphasis on the closeness of the relationship - a readiness to share. This "koinOnian" is a sense of unity amongst all the children of God, born of God with and through God the Father and His Son, Jesus Christ - the Eternal Life.

1) [Compare Phil 2:1-8]:

(Phil 2:1 NASB) "If therefore there is any encouragement in Christ, if there is any consolation of love, if there is any fellowship of the Spirit, if any affection and compassion,

(Phil 2:2 NASB) make my joy complete by being of the same mind, maintaining the same love, united in spirit, intent on one purpose.

(Phil 2:3 NASB) Do nothing from selfishness or empty conceit, but with humility of mind let each of you regard one another as more important than himself;

(Phil 2:4 NASB) do not merely look out for your own personal interests, but also for the interests of others.

(Phil 2:5 NASB) Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus,

(Phil 2:6 NASB) who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped,

(Phil 2:7 NASB) but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men.

(Phil 2:8 NASB) And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross."

[Hodges, cont.]:

"This is a supernatural life that was disclosed to author John and his fellow apostles in the incarnate Jesus Christ to His chosen apostles. lt is the Eternal Life that comes from the Father and becomes the eternal life which is shared individually and corporately by the company of children of God, born of God. It is what causes the oneness of faith - because the faith is the same for all: in Christ alone unto eternal life.

Note that the words "fellowship with us" precede in the text the words "fellowship is with the Father and with His Son, Jesus Christ." This is evidently a reminder that there can be no fellowship with the Father or with the Son that is not based on the content of the apostolic witness. So John stresses "fellowship with us" as having priority in time.

So the purpose of John's letter is stated in these first three verses: to inform his intended readers / and all children of God, born of God that just as the apostles were in fellowship with one another and God the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ, so the readers / and all children of God, born of God may also have fellowship with them and the Father and His Son.

If one has fellowship [Greek: "koinOnia," singular] with God the Father and His Son Jesus Christ (1:3), then one will have "koinOnia" with other children of God, born of God who have this same relationship to God (1:6, 7). And if fellowship does not exist between children of God, born of God, then any claim to have fellowship with God is invalid. The converse, though not stated, would also be true: True human "koinOnia" is impossible apart from "koinOnia" with God."

Hence the issue is not about salvation unto eternal life, as some contend, but it is about having author John's readers / and all children of God, born of God having fellowship with the apostles and with God the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ. For author John's intended audience is children of God, born of God who are already secure in their salvation whom he calls "My little children:"

2) [Compare 1 Jn 5:9-13]:

(1 Jn 5:9 NASB) If we receive the testimony of men, the testimony of God is greater; for the testimony of God is this, that He has testified concerning His Son.

(1 Jn 5:10 NASB) The one who believes in the Son of God has the testimony in himself; the one who does not believe God has made Him a liar, because he has not believed in the testimony that God has given concerning His Son.

(1 Jn 5:11 NASB) And the testimony is this, that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son.

(1 Jn 5:13 NASB) These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life."

Note that 1 Jn chapter 5:9-13 confirms that believing in the Son is all that is required in order to have eternal life. So the epistle of First John is addressed to children of God, born of God - those who know they have eternal life because they know that they have believed in the Son of God for it.

Furthermore, the following four passages indicate that the intended readership of First John is described by the phrase, "My little children" a descriptive term for children of God, born of God:

3) [Compare 1 Jn 2:1]:

(1 Jn 2:1 NASB) "My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the Righteous;"

The first part of 1 Jn 2:1, "My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin," further establishes to whom the First Epistle of John was written. Since 'unchildren' of God, 'unborn' of God are hopelessly enslaved to sin, (Ro 6:17, 20); and since only children of God, born of God therefore would be in a position to not sin; then the intended audience of this epistle must be children of God, born of God, as author John described as "My little children."

This is further confirmed by the final phrase of 1 Jn 2:1, "And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the Righteous," which confirms that children of God, born of God are in view in this passage; for those who are not children of God, born of God first must become children of God, born of God in Jesus Christ in order to have Him as an Advocate with God the Father when they do sin.

4) [Compare Jn 1:12-13]:

(Jn 1:12 YLT) "But as many [individuals of His own creation, (Jn 1:11a)] as did receive Him to them He gave authority to become sons [lit., children] of God - to those believing in His name"

5) [Compare 1 Jn 3:1-2]:

(1 Jn 3:1 NASB) "See how great a love the Father has bestowed on us, that we would be called children of God; and such we are. For this reason the world does not know us, because it did not know Him.

(1 Jn 3:2 NASB) Beloved, now we are children of God, and it has not appeared as yet what we will be. We know that when He appears, we will be like Him, because we will see Him just as He is."

6) [Compare 1 Jn 2:12]:

(1 Jn 2:12 NASB) "I am writing to you, little children, because your sins have been forgiven you for His name's sake."

Note that only children of God, born of God have the status wherein their sins are forgiven them relative to eternal life, (cf Acts 10:43).

So the subject of the first epistle of John is the exhortation to the reader / children of God, born of God to live a holy and righteous life resulting in fellowship with God.

This could not apply to what one must do to receive eternal life since acting righteously, i.e., keeping God's commandments, etc., are not part of receiving eternal life, (1 Jn 5:9-13 ); nor are they absolutely trustworthy - they are untrustworthy at best, (1 Jn 1:8, 10).

D) (1 Jn 1:1-4) THE EPISTLE OF FIRST JOHN WAS WRITTEN TO COUNTER THOSE ERRORS WHICH GO AGAINST THE TRUTHS OF SCRIPTURE IN ORDER TO KEEP READERS - ALL CHILDREN OF GOD, BORN OF GOD - ABIDING IN THE TRUTHS THEY HAVE LEARNED. AND THIS IS ESPECIALLY SO THAT ALL CHILDREN OF GOD, BORN OF GOD MAY HAVE FELLOWSHIP WITH THE APOSTLES AND WITH GOD THE FATHER AND WITH HIS SON JESUS CHRIST; SO THAT THE JOY OF THE READERS / CHILDREN OF GOD, BORN OF GOD AS WELL AS THE APOSTLES' JOY MIGHT BE COMPLETE. THE APOSTLES' JOY WOULD RESULT BECAUSE OF THE SPIRITUAL WELL-BEING OF THEIR BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN CHRIST

(1 Jn 1:1 YLT) "That which was from the beginning, that which we have heard, that which we have seen with our eyes, that which we did behold [in the sense of gazed intently upon], and our hands did handle, concerning the Word of ... Life - (1 Jn 1:2 NASB) and [indeed] the Life was manifested, and we have seen and testify and proclaim to you the Eternal Life, which was with the Father and was manifested to us - (1 Jn 1:3 NASB) what we have seen and heard we proclaim to you *also, so that you too may have fellowship with us; and indeed our fellowship is with the Father, and with His Son Jesus Christ. (1 Jn 1:4 NASB) These things we write*, so that our joy** may be made complete."


[JP]

As the apostle Paul reminded the Corinthian believers who had failed that they were still the temple of the Holy Spirit, John reminds us of who we are in Christ? This is not to encourage us to sin but to encourage us to look to our Lord Jesus, to see our sins punished at the cross, and to live victoriously and gloriously for Him. That is what true repentance is all about—turning to the cross, and returning to His grace! When you fail today, know that you can talk to God honestly about your failing, but do it with a revelation of the cross of our Lord Jesus. See your sins punished in His body and receive afresh His forgiveness and unmerited favor to reign over your sins.

[BSM]

Don't you get it!!!!! In the context of committing sinful acts in the temporal / Christian life, to return to the grace of God for a believer IS to return to God's fellowship when we sin in the temporal life. That is what Paul is talking about here. Paul is not talking about returning to the grace of God relative to salvation unto eternal life. That was already and forever established at the point of faith alone in Christ alone when they became believers. When Paul writes of the short comings of the Corinthian believers the implication is that they acknowledge their sins, i.e, confess them to restore their fellowship with God - not restore their salvation!!!! And that restoration is solely by the grace of God. That's the context isn't it???? - the same as in 1 Jn chapter one!!! To do it with a revelation of the cross of our Lord Jesus is precisely what John is writing about in 1 Jn 1:7: "If we believers walk in the light of the Righteousness of God implying acknowledging when you as a believer fall short of the Light, the Righteousness of God, the blood of Jesus purifies us of all unrighteousness - unto FELLOWSHIP not eternal life - all by the grace of God." The believer whether sinning or not sinning - his eternal life is eternally secure.

[JP]

DO WE CONFESS OUR SINS UNDER GRACE?


[BSM]

The question, "DO WE CONFESS OUR SINS UNDER GRACE?" is nonsensical, not in the bible and should be ignored. It is not clear what this question is intended to mean. One might confess his sin such that God will not graciously forgive those sins such as if one is an unbeliever, a gnostic, of if the confession is not accurate or real. If it does not appear in Scripture then it should not be addressed as if it were. There is no passage that explains the answer to this foolish question. Now if one is a believer and he is confessing legitimate sins, then God will forgive those sins and purify the believer from all unrighteousness - that's called grace and it is based God's Son's propitiation for the sins of all mankind - that's the grace of God.


[JP]

Once, when I was preaching in Italy, a prominent psychiatrist to whom I had been introduced shared with me something heartbreaking. He told me that he has counseled many sincere Christians who are living defeated lives, some even in mental asylums, because they believe that being right with God hangs on their ability to confess every sin.


[BSM]

By now you must understand that God is not asking the believer to confess every sin in order to be right with God for eternal life. You confess the same thing that He, God, brings to mind which is evidently NOT every sin and He forgives those sins and purifies the believer from all unrighteousness unto temporal fellowship and blessings in this life - eternal life having been secured forever at the point of faith alone in Christ alone.

[JP]

My friend, can you see how dangerous this teaching is? Without the assurance of complete forgiveness, these believers are sin-conscious, burdened with guilt and shame, condemned by the enemy, joyless, and totally insecure about their salvation.

[BSM]

Learn to read: "fellowship" is the issue not assurance of eternal life. Assurance of eternal life is clearly explained throughout God's Word based on a moment of faith alone in Christ alone no matter what


And it does not involve being sin-conscious, burdened with guilt and shame, condemned by the enemy, joyless, and totally insecure about their salvation.


[JP]

Yet the truth is that every believer has total forgiveness in Christ, whose eternal blood keeps on cleansing them from all sin. The moment they know this truth, heaven comes into their souls, as it did for Frances Havergal, a famous nineteenth-century hymn writer.10 And the effect this produces in their lives is not a desire to go out and sin, but a desire to live a life that glorifies their Savior. He who knows that he is forgiven much—forgiven of all, actually—will love much (Luke 7:47 NLT).

[BSM]

Wrong again. There are no guarantees that a believer will have a desire to live a life that glorifies their Savior; or that he who knows that he is forgiven will love much. No where in Scripture is this guaranteed. The epistles indicate that believers must study to show themselves approved, follow the leading of the Holy Spirit and depending upon their response they will be provided with rewards and / or discipline depending upon their faithfulness.

[JP].

We confess our sins knowing we are already forgiven, not to be forgiven.

So is Joseph Prince against a Christian’s confessing his sins? Let me say this clearly: I do believe in the confession of sins and I do confess my sins still. But there’s a big difference now—I confess my sins knowing that all my sins are already forgiven. I don’t confess my sins to be forgiven. Because I have a close relationship with my heavenly Father, I can be honest with Him when I’ve done wrong. I can talk to Him about it, receive His grace for my weakness, and move forward knowing full well that He has already forgiven me through His Son’s sacrifice. And I no longer worry about the fact that I can’t possibly confess every sin, because I know it’s not my confessions that save me, but the blood of Jesus.

[BSM]

1 Jn 1:9 does not stipulate that ones sins are already forgiven even before one confesses them. The question arises then why confess them at all if they are already forgiven. And suppose the believer stubbornly refuses to admit the wrong doing, will they still be forgiven? What scripture says must not be tampered with. Your statement about 1 Jn 1:9 is nonsensical. God is not a nonsensical God - and He does not need you to correct Him.


1 Jn 1:9 says what it says and it is not to be tampered with regardless how close a relationship you think you have with the Father. Instead of obeying what 1 Jn 1:9 says, you do not have the latitude to change what God has provided for you to do to receive forgiveness and purification of all unrighteousness - nor change that the subject is restoration of fellowship of believers with God, and not about salvation of Gnostics or unbelievers. You also imply that you have to confess every sin, yet you stipulate that you cannot confess every sin, therefore it seems you don't confess like you think the verse is saying. That's not honest, it's deceptive. Actually, the verse does not stipulate that you have to confess every sin, only those sins God brings to your mind and He will forgive those sins and purify you from all unrighteousness. Finally, you still don't get the fact that 1 Jn 1:1-10 is all about restoring fellowship with God, not about keeping your eternal life intact.                                                                                                      

[JP]

Beloved, our forgiveness was purchased perfectly with our Lord’s precious blood. It is not contingent on how perfectly we are able to confess our every sin. How can our forgiveness be dependent on the consistency, frequency, and quality of our confessions? That is bound to fail! Our forgiveness is dependent upon our faith in the quality of our Lord’s sinless blood that was shed at the cross. There is a world of difference between these two bases for our forgiveness, and it results in a world of difference to your peace of mind!


[BSM]

You are drawing unwarranted conclusions about this passage in 1 Jn 1:9. It is God's grace to forgive your confessed sins and purify you from all unrighteousness relative here to restoration of fellowship with God - NOT ABOUT ETERNAL RESTORATION!! There is no requirement to confess our every sin or to confess each sin perfectly in order to maintain your salvation in view. Your assessment of your peace of mind is not evident in the context of this passage either.

[JP]
Dear reader, grace doesn’t make light of sin; it is the power to break free from sin!

[BSM]
Wrong. Grace, God's grace is His unmerited favor toward the believer. There is nothing in Scripture that supports the idea that God's grace operates within the believer as the power to break the believer free from sin. God covers sins committed by the believer relative to the reception of eternal life being eternal so that the believer is eternally secure.

Notice Ro 6:1-2 which says, "What shall we say then, shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means. Far be the thought such ones as we - who died to sin. How shall we any longer be living in it?" Notice that although we believers died to sin in the sense of being freed from sin's control over our lives, we still have the opportunity to choose to let sin control us once again, moment to moment in our lives because the sin nature still lives within us always there tempting each one of us to consider and do sinful acts. But the grace of God still covers that sin. It does not give us believers power to break free of that sin. Nevertheless, it is our choice to endeavor to do so. And as you continue to study Romans chapters 6 and 7 especially, the temporal life is indeed a struggle between the sin nature within us and the inner man and the Holy Spirit.

[JP]
And this is the present truth of grace in which God wants us to be established (2 Pet. 1:12)—that concerning the confession of sins, we confess our sins because we are already forgiven, not to obtain God’s forgiveness. The more conscious you are of how forgiven you already are in Christ, the more you will truly live above every defeat.

[BSM]

Your words, "the more conscious you are of how forgiven you already are in Christ, the more you will truly live above every defeat," is no where in the Bible. The principle is not one of the believer living above every defeat, but of God's grace of getting you through every moment of your life despite your defeats and not your not being defeated. Though the believer is weak, God is strong and He promises the believer not to give the believer more than he can handle 

[Compare 1 Cor 10:13 NASB]:

"No temptation has overtaken you except something common to mankind; and God is faithful, so He will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will provide the way of escape also, so that you may be able to bear it."


[JP]

TRUE GRACE TEACHES PROGRESSIVE SANCTIFICATION

Now, I understand there are ministers who are genuinely worried that when the truth of the gospel is told like that, people will take advantage of their total forgiveness in Christ and lead godless lives. They are worried that such teaching places no emphasis on sanctification or the desire to live holy, God-glorifying lives. This is a misconception, because true grace does teach progressive sanctification.


[BSM]

Believers do have total forgiveness of sins unto eternal life and by the (true) grace of God. Nevertheless they may choose to live godless lives or commit sins all the time, (Ro 6:1-2). As a matter of fact they do commit sins all the time, (1 Jn 1:8, 10).


[JP]

Let me state clearly that while a believer has been justified and made righteous by the blood of Jesus, it is also true that sanctification is ongoing in his growth as a Christian. This is why the author of the book of Hebrews says that we are “being sanctified” even though we have been “perfected forever” by Christ’s one act of obedience at the cross (see Heb. 10:14).

[BSM]

When a believer has been justified he is not made as Righteous as God is in his experience - in his temporal body and life. He has been declared Righteous by God which is a positional truth not an experiential truth YET until he is transformed at resurrection. So he is not Righteous in his behavior in this life. He has not yet been made Righteous. After all he still has a sin nature so he can't be righteous in this life while he has that nature intact in himself, albeit the control of the sin nature has been broken, he still may choose to sin and he does, (1 Jn 1:8, 10)!!

Note that Heb 10:14 stipulates the following: "For by one offering He [Jesus] has perfected for all time those who are being sanctified." There is no stipulation here that there will be much progress, even moments of sinless perfection in the temporal lives of believers. But there is implied a final result of sinless perfection, albeit not in the temporal life when all individuals still have a sin nature to which all succomb to all the time, (1 Jn 1:8, 10). Romans chapters six and seven make this very clear:

Just look at Ro 6:1-2 which says, "What shall we say then, shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means. Far be the thought such ones as we - who died to sin. How shall we any longer be living in it?" Notice that although we believers died to sin in the sense of being freed from sin's absolute control over our lives, we still have the opportunity to choose to let sin control us once again, and again, moment to moment in our lives because the sin nature still lives within us always there tempting each one of us to consider and do sinful acts. But the grace of God still covers that sin. It does not give us believers power to break free of that sin. Nevertheless, it is our choice to endeavor to do so. And as you continue to study Romans chapters 6 and 7 especially, the temporal life is indeed a struggle between the sin nature within us and the inner man and the Holy Spirit. Although believers are being sanctified as Scripture indicates, it is still true that the evidence shows that believers cannot claim to be without sin at any time as it says in 1 Jn 1:8-10.

Take a look at this excerpt from my study on 1 John:

H) (1 Jn 1:8) IF WE CHILDREN OF GOD, BORN OF GOD INCLUDING APOSTLES SAY THAT WE HAVE NO SIN - IN THE SENSE OF HAVING NOT COMMITTED A SINGLE SIN WITH A PARTICULAR TIMEFRAME IN VIEW, WE DECEIVE OURSELVES AND THE TRUTH IS NOT IN US - AND NEITHER FOR THE MOMENT IS FELLOWSHIP WITH GOD

(1 Jn 1:6 NASB) "If we [should] say that we have fellowship with Him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not [do] the truth; (1 Jn 1:7 NASB) but if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, [One = God, with another = with each of we children of God, born of God walking in the light], and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin. (1 Jn 1:8 NASB) If we [should] say that we have no sin, we [deceive] ourselves and the truth is not in us." =

[Variant "the truth of God" in some miniscules and syr - little support, unnecessarily expanded the word "truth." The shortest reading is best]

After enlightening children of God, born of God in 1 Jn 1:5-7 on how to have fellowship with God by their unceasing acknowledgment that God is Perfect Light / Absolute Righteousness, and by unceasing acknowledgment that they constantly fall short of His Absolute Righteousness and need unceasing cleansing of their sins by the blood of Jesus God's Son; author John returns in 1 Jn 1:8 to children of God, born of God' (including apostles') tendency - even those who have a consistency of being in fellowship with God, to deceive themselves when they falsely consider themselves free of committing acts of sin; when they falsely think that they do not need continuous cleansing from "the blood of Jesus Christ."

The first phrase in verse 8, "If we [should] say that we have no sin" comprises the first clause of a 3rd class If-Then statement. The Greek words "ean eipOmen" rendered "If we [should] say" is in the aorist tense and the subjunctive mood, conveying a completed action of maybe we do say, and maybe we do not say. The subjunctive mood of objective possibility conveys a message of children of God, born of God potentially making a statement that they have no sin, [sin, singular conveying that the child of God, born of God no longer bears present guilt for some particular sin - any sin*]" For the Greek words "hamartian ouk echomen" rendered "we have no sin" is in the present tense conveying a moment in time in that present period of time when one thinks there is not a single sin that one can be held accountable for in a timeframe they falsely perceive as one of sinless perfection.

*Although the sin nature, the principle of sin that pervades all mortal humanity except Jesus Christ is present even in children of God, born of God including the apostles; nevertheless the phrase rendered "we have no sin," in the NASB does not refer to the presence of the sin nature / the sin principle within one, as some contend. For the Greek phrase transliterated "ouk echomen hamartian" lit. "sin not we have" and rendered "we have no sin" in the NASB, occurs elsewhere in the New Testament in John's Gospel, (cf. 9:41; 15:22, 24; 19:11). In all these places, the obvious meaning is to bear present guilt for some particular sin - any sin, implying that the phrase rendered "we have no sin," in 1 Jn 1:8 implies the false idea that a child of God, born of God experiences moments of sinless perfection.
   
A child of God, born of God may not be conscious of any acts of sin in his life, or maintain that he no longer has a sin nature which produces acts of sin; or he may think that he has overcome his sin nature with his new nature via the indwelling Holy Spirit for a period of time in order to achieve moments of sinless \ perfection. Some might even falsely contend that they are beyond the categories of good and evil because they possess the Spirit of God or have achieved some kind of spiritual transcendance. But whatever one thinks does not contradict the fact that while in one's mortal body, one nevertheless has a sin nature, commits sin all the time, and constantly falls short of the glory of God - His Absolute Righteousness all the time - children of God, born of God including apostles (as well as all unbelievers). This is clearly and repeatedly conveyed in Scripture, (1 Jn 1:10; even admitted to by the apostle Paul after he became a child of God, born of God and an apostle: ref. Romans chapter 7 ).

The second clause of the If-Then statement contains two phrases, "we [deceive] ourselves and the truth is not in us." It declares the result of when we children of God, born of God do say that we have no sin: we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us." It brings out into the light those children of God, born of God who have wilfully hidden their mentalities from the sphere of light in which God dwells - the sphere of His Absolute Righteousness, which sphere man cannot attain under his own auspices in his mortal life. He needs the grace of God to declare him forgiven and purified from all unrighteousness in the moment - that moment in which he actually confesses sins that God brings to his mind - NOT EVERY SIN!!, (1 Jn 1:9). This is man's typical self deception - his arrogance - which serves to puff himself up to think that he has committed no sin for a period of time - that he has no sin nature or has overcome it if he is a child of God, born of God with the new nature within him that the Holy Spirit has provided. The Greek word "heautous" rendered "ourselves" is the first word in the second clause, "we [deceive] ourselves and the truth is not in us." It is in an emphatic position emphasizing that such a self deception is deliberate and willful, bearing no resemblance to the truth, nor to innocence. Such children of God, born of God are in danger of becoming progressively delusional and evil as the timespan that they claim to be without sin increases.

So when children of God, born of God feel close to God, they should nevertheless remember that a closeness with God, i.e., genuine fellowship with Him is not due to their being free of sin - without acts of sin being committed by them, or by some kind of feeling based on emotion or some unbiblical idea. Fellowship with God only comes to a child of God, born of God via confession to God Who is Light / Absolute Righteousness, and out of the grace of God because of the shed blood of Jesus Christ, His Son, which cleanses us from all sin, (1 Jn 1:7). Fellowship does not result from how good the child of God, born of God behaves or feels but how much more he is focused upon God's Absolute Righteousness as compared with the evil nature of his own thoughts, words and deeds which he acknowledges to God.



[JP]

As believers, we cannot become more righteous, but we can become more sanctified or holy in terms of how we live our lives.

 

[BSM]

Nonsensical. At the point of faith alone in Christ alone, believers have been declared Righteous with a capital 'R' indicating God's perfect Righteousness, not relative human righteousness which the latter is always contaminated with some kind of evil, (1 Jn 1:8, 10).9. So in God's eyes all believers are viewed by God but not actually in their experience as Righteous as God is Righteous because God has promised to transform all believers into beings that are indeed in their experience as Righteous as God is - without sin at the point of resurrection. So to say we cannot become more righteous as God is Righteous is nonsensical and nowhere in Scripture. No one can become more righteous than God!!!!! If you would only stick to Scripture you would be a benefit to mankind.


So believers in this mortal life are always failing to be Righteous, falling far short of the glory of God. So it is a work in progress via study of the Word, following the leading of the Holy Spirit and confessing known sins to maintain a better record of faithfulness / righteousness - but never a moment of sinless perfection.


[JP]

Justification by faith happened instantaneously. The moment we received Jesus, we were forgiven, cleansed, perfected in righteousness, and saved.


[BSM]

Indeed justification by a moment of faith alone in Christ alone happened instantaneously but only in the sense that God declared the believer to have His Righteousness - a positional truth not an experiential one - to be experiential at resurrection. And the moment we received Jesus in the sense of believed in Him, (Jn 1:12-13) we were forgiven of our sins unto eternal life; and cleansed of all unrighteousness relative to eternal life, but not cleansed of all unrighteousness relative to how we conduct our lives in this temporal life. And we have NOT BEEN PERFECTED YET IN RIGHTEOUSNESS. We have been declared Righteous but our experience does not reflect an experiential Righteousness moment to moment in our temporal lives. Nevertheless, at that moment of faith alone in Christ alone we were saved forever unto eternal life. But it would be better to refer to Scripture and explain the words in God's Word that convey this message. That you did not do and your message is confusing. When you say "Justification by faith happened instanteously" why not go to a passage in Romans chapter 3.


Compare [Ro 3:21-24]:

(v. 3:21) "But now an eternal righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify.

(v. 3:22) This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference,

(v. 3:23) for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

(v. 3:24) and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus."

A) RECEIVING A RIGHTEOUSNESS FROM GOD UNTO ETERNAL LIFE, THE GOSPEL, IS ACCOMPLISHED APART FROM HUMAN DOING, HAS BEEN MADE KNOWN THROUGHOUT THE AGES AND IS TESTIFIED AS SUCH IN SCRIPTURE

(v. 1:16) "I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile. (v. 1:17 NKJV) For in the gospel [an eternal] righteousness from God is revealed [in one to mankind] from faith to faith, [i.e., out of ones belief in the gospel to faithfulness in ones life to that belief] just as it is written: 'The righteous [one] by faith will live.' (v. 3:21) But now an eternal righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify." =

Receiving a righteouseness from God unto eternal life, the gospel, is accomplished apart from human doing, has been made known throughout the ages and is testified as such in Scripture. The phrase "apart from law", literally "without law", ("chOris nomon") is without the definite article pointing to a quality of law, not a specific law like the Mosaic Law. So the phrase "chOris nomon" = "without law" means without any set of rules of human doing, not limited to the Mosaic Law. It refers to the reception of an eternal righteousness from God unto eternal life apart from, i.e., to the exclusion of any human doing. Verse 1:17 refers to an eternal righteousness from God being revealed in the gospel. Hence verse 3:21: "But now an eternal righteousness from God apart from law has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify" is directly related to the gospel and its proclamation to the world. The phrase "an eternal righteousness from God...has been made known" in v. 3:21 has in it the verb "has been made known," rendered from the Greek, "pephanerOtai," which is in the perfect tense. The perfect tense signifies a completed action (in the past) of providing information as to the reception of the righteousness of God, (the gospel, ref. 1:17), with an ongoing result of that action in the present. In effect this is an ongoing proclamation of the gospel throughout the ages largely through the testimony of Scripture. The phrase "the Law and the Prophets" is a phrase which was established in the past to refer to the entire Old Testament Scriptures, the Law referring to the Pentateuch and the Prophets referring to the rest of the OT books. It is thus declared in 3:21 that an eternal righteousness from God, (the gospel), apart from law, i.e., apart from human doing, has been made known throughout history to which Scripture testifies.

XI) [Ro 3:21-24]:

(v. 3:21) "But now an eternal righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify.

(v. 3:22) This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference,

(v. 3:23) for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

(v. 3:24) and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus." 

A) RECEIVING A RIGHTEOUSNESS FROM GOD UNTO ETERNAL LIFE, THE GOSPEL, IS ACCOMPLISHED APART FROM HUMAN DOING, HAS BEEN MADE KNOWN THROUGHOUT THE AGES AND IS TESTIFIED AS SUCH IN SCRIPTURE

(v. 1:16) "I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile. (v. 1:17 NKJV) For in the gospel [an eternal] righteousness from God is revealed [in one to mankind] from faith to faith, [i.e., out of ones belief in the gospel to faithfulness in ones life to that belief] just as it is written: 'The righteous [one] by faith will live.' (v. 3:21) But now an eternal righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify." =

Receiving a righteouseness from God unto eternal life, the gospel, is accomplished apart from human doing, has been made known throughout the ages and is testified as such in Scripture. The phrase "apart from law", literally "without law", ("chOris nomon") is without the definite article pointing to a quality of law, not a specific law like the Mosaic Law. So the phrase "chOris nomon" = "without law" means without any set of rules of human doing, not limited to the Mosaic Law. It refers to the reception of an eternal righteousness from God unto eternal life apart from, i.e., to the exclusion of any human doing. Verse 1:17 refers to an eternal righteousness from God being revealed in the gospel. Hence verse 3:21: "But now an eternal righteousness from God apart from law has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify" is directly related to the gospel and its proclamation to the world. The phrase "an eternal righteousness from God...has been made known" in v. 3:21 has in it the verb "has been made known," rendered from the Greek, "pephanerOtai," which is in the perfect tense. The perfect tense signifies a completed action (in the past) of providing information as to the reception of the righteousness of God, (the gospel, ref. 1:17), with an ongoing result of that action in the present. In effect this is an ongoing proclamation of the gospel throughout the ages largely through the testimony of Scripture. The phrase "the Law and the Prophets" is a phrase which was established in the past to refer to the entire Old Testament Scriptures, the Law referring to the Pentateuch and the Prophets referring to the rest of the OT books. It is thus declared in 3:21 that an eternal righteousness from God, (the gospel), apart from law, i.e., apart from human doing, has been made known throughout history to which Scripture testifies."

[JP]

We were also sanctified in Christ (see Heb. 10:10). However, it is important to understand that the revelation and outworking of our sanctification in Christ is progressive. This means that the more we grow in our relationship with the Lord Jesus, the more holy we will become in every area of our lives.

The Word of God proclaims that “All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness” (2 Tim. 3:16). So be wary of any counterfeit grace teaching that says behavior, discipline, correction, and right living are not important. The revelation of forgiveness does not detract from, nor is it at the expense of, right living. Instead, it is the fuel that makes right living happen.


[BSM]

Sanctification means to set apart for special use or purpose. So to be sanctified in Christ as a result of the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all means to be set apart as an actual member of the body of Christ, the Church to serve Him as directed by Him implying being absolutely Righteous - in sinless perfection once the process of sanctification process is completed - evidently when resurrection comes, (1 Jn 3:2; Phil 3:20-21).

Compare 1 Jn 3:2

(1 Jn 3:2 NASB) "Beloved, now we are children of God, and it has not appeared as yet what we will be. We know that when He appears, we will be like Him, because we will see Him just as He is."

So the declaration by God of being sanctified in Christ comprises God's declaration of an individual's status with God so far as He is concerned and has promised us that we will become in our actual experience at resurrection.

And Heb 10:10 NASB reads, "By this will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all." So the believer's sanctification, his being set apart to God is as a result of the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. Final sanctification, however, will not occur until resurrection.

On the other hand, the statement by Joseph Prince or the equivalent, "However, it is important to understand that the revelation and outworking of our sanctification in Christ is progressive," does not appear in Scripture. The word revelation is not clearly explained. If it means that in this mortal life it will be revealed that believers will achieve sanctification, i.e., sinless perfection; then the idea of such a revelation is unscriptural. Although many passages focus believers on taking steps toward leading better Christian lives, believers have a sin nature which constantly leads them astray, (1 Jn 1:8, 10; Ro 6:1ff). Sanctification in this mortal life is not guranteed to occur in a progressive manner or in any manner at all. There will not be moments when a believer can claim not to have sinned, (1 Jn 1:8, 10). And Joseph Prince's statement, "However, it is important to understand that the revelation and outworking of our sanctification in Christ is progressive. This means that the more we grow in our relationship with the Lord Jesus, the more holy we will become in every area of our lives," is not guaranteed. There will be moments when the believer will progress albeit imperfectly and moments when the believer will backslide. Complete sanctification will occur at resurrection, (1 Jn 3:2; Phil 3:20-21).


[JP]

Merriam-Webster Online describes sanctification as “the state of growing in divine grace as a result of Christian commitment after conversion.”11 You see, it is all about growing in grace. We should encourage our people today to establish themselves in the gospel of grace. Paul told Timothy to “be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus” (2 Tim. 2:1). Peter encouraged believers to build a strong foundation with these closing words in his last epistle: “Grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ” (2 Pet. 3:18).

[BSM]

The Merriam-Webster Online dictionary defines sanctification in more than one way.

Let's start with the available definitions of the verb to sanctify according to the Merrian-Webster Online dictionary:

1) to set apart to a sacred purpose or to religious use: CONSECRATE

2) to free from sin: PURIFY

and there are other meanings as well which do not meet the context as well as what we have here. You can check the rest of the meanings out to see if what I say is accurate.

None of these meanings necessarily includes what you stated “the state of growing in divine grace as a result of Christian commitment after conversion.” Not only do you add to Scripture but you even add to the dictionary!!!!

The dictionary does NOT have the word sanctify or sanctification include the concept of growing in divine grace as a result of Christian commitment after conversion. The bible teaches that sanctify means to set apart for a particular purpose depending upon the context that the word sanctify or sanctification occurs. And it does not require that one must commit to being sanctified after conversion, albeit it is commanded of a believer - but there are no guarantees and there is no assurance any believer reaches perfect sanctification / sinless perfection in their mortal lives, (1 Jn 1:8, 10).

So sanctification means to set apart for special use or purpose. So to be sanctified in Christ as a result of the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all means to be set apart as an actual member of the body of Christ, the Church to serve Him as directed by Him implying being absolutely Righteous - in sinless perfection once the process of sanctification process is completed - evidently when resurrection comes, (1 Jn 3:2; Phil 3:20-21).

Compare 1 Jn 3:2

(1 Jn 3:2 NASB) "Beloved, now we are children of God, and it has not appeared as yet what we will be. We know that when He appears, we will be like Him, because we will see Him just as He is."

So the declaration by God of being sanctified in Christ comprises God's declaration of an individual's status with God so far as He is concerned and has promised us that we will become in our actual experience at resurrection.

[JP]

True grace always produces true holiness.

 

The more one grows in grace—the more one is washed again and again by the water of the word of God’s grace—the more one grows in sanctification and holiness. When our people experience the true grace of our Lord Jesus, the allure and passing pleasures of sin fade in the light of His glory and grace. And they begin to live victorious over the power of sin.

[BSM]

The phrase "true grace" does not appear in the Bible. Grace does not need the word "true" attached to it to be grace. It is either grace or it is not grace. There is no false grace. Your definition / description does not make sense. Grace by itself without any modifying words appears many, many times and almost always it is connected to God and how He largely operates with man. A correct, i.e., true definition of grace means "unmerited favor." It almost all of the time refers to God providing unmerited blessings, favor toward an individual such as temporal blessings, temporal deliverance from something, temporal forgiveness unto fellowship for an individual for confession of sins committed, eternal forgiveness unto eternal life for those who believe in His Sons' payment for their sin to that end.

So the point being made that "TRUE GRACE TEACHES PROGRESSIVE SALVATION' is nonsensical. Grace does not teach anything, nor do the words "PROGRESSIVE SANCTIFICATION" appear in Scripture, albeit the concept is present. It is better to go to Scripture and do a thorough study of the matter, of which an excerpt of a study on the subject from Grace Evangelical Society appears below with a more thorough approach to the subject.

So if the words 'TRUE GRACE' occur in the Bible, and they do not, they have in view God's unmerited blessing / favor toward another. If it may result in progressive sanctification in a particular individual solely out of that individual's own effort to grow in the faith unto sinless perfection at the end of that individual's life [note that Scripture does not indicate that that will occur]; nevetheless it does not teach anything that merits such benefit - without teaching anything. Note that no one will reach a stage anything close to sinless perfection until they see Jesus as He is - in the next life.

But God's grace in this life is not to provide our gloriously transformed resurrection bodies to us. That comes in the next life, (1 Jn 3:2 & Phil 3:20-21 quoted below). Our moment of faith alone in Christ alone has provided eternal life as our immediate present tense possession along with the promise, not the experience, of an incorruptible body which will be received in the next life - which comes when we go to be with Jesus at Rapture time:

Compare Phil 3:20-21 NASB

20 "For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ,

21 Who will transform the body of our lowly condition into conformity with His glorious body, by the exertion of the power that He has even to subject all things to Himself."

Compare 1 Jn 3:2 NASB

(1 Jn 3:2 NASB "Beloved, now we are children of God, and it has not appeared as yet what we will be. We know that when He appears, we will be like Him, because we will see Him just as He is."

So the word sanctification means to set apart for something, the context of the passage it is located in will establish the details of that setting apart. The believer for example has been set apart to salvation unto eternal life, having received immediate possession of eternal life at the moment of faith alone in Christ alone + nothing else. Whereupon his ongoing efforts toward sanctification or lack thereof in his temporal life depends upon a number of factors:


****** EXCERPT ON STUDY OF SANCTIFICATION FROM GRACE EVANGELICAL SOCIETY ******

Sanctification – Part 4: Man’s Role in Present Sanctification
September 1, 1994 by Bob Wilkin in Journal Articles

https://faithalone.org/journal-articles/mans-role-in-present-sanctification/

I. Introduction

This is the article of a study on present sanctification begun in the previous issue. In the last article we considered God’s role in present sanctification. In this one we will consider man’s role.

Present sanctification is also called progressive or experiential sanctification. Present sanctification concerns the goal of the Christian life: progressive increase in the believer’s experience of holiness.

Some extreme Calvinists actually believe that Christians have no personal role in their own sanctification. I remember a conversation I had years ago with a young man just about to enter the pastorate. We were talking about progressive sanctification. He told me that the growth of believers, and even the amount we sinned, was all determined by God. He was convinced that we could do nothing to effect our growth either positively or negatively!

Years later I debated an educator who was preparing men and women for ministry. The topic of our discussion was saving faith. He, too, was advocating the view that man has no role at all to play in his growth in holiness.

In the course of the debate I asked him, “If God is totally in charge of our present sanctification and we have absolutely nothing to do with it, why do we ever sin?” He had a clever, though in my estimate unpersuasive, explanation.

He told the story of his grandfather’s Model A Ford. It seems it had a bent frame. As long as you held onto the wheel, it would track straight ahead. If, however, you let go, even for a moment, the car would sharply and immediately veer off the road. So it is, he said, with the Christian life. God “lets go” of our lives from time to time to show us how much we need Him. He then soon retakes control of our lives so that we don’t sin very much!

These are not the views of a select few. These two individuals represent quite a number of pastors, theologians, and laypeople today. Not only have I personally met many others who hold this view, I often receive questions from people who have been approached by people promoting it.

The idea that present sanctification is solely a work of God, that man has absolutely no active role to play, is unbiblical and unhealthy. We don’t need to sin in order to see our need for the Lord. Surely in eternity, when no believer will ever sin, we will never lack awareness of our need for Him.

A few months ago I had lunch with a man who is on the staff of a very large and very affluent church. He said that it is sometimes hard working with very powerful people. He said, only partly in jest, that the attitude of many of those powerful people is that while they hope God will bless what they are doing, if He doesn’t, they can bring about the desired result without Him!

As I pointed out in the previous article, present sanctification is impossible apart from God’s work in the lives of believers. A balanced, biblical perspective is that both God and the believer play a role in present sanctification. The role of man is just as clear in the Bible as the role of God. The Scriptures clearly and repeatedly show that the believer has an active role to play in present sanctification. A passage like Phil 2:12-13 brings this out well:

Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation1 with fear and trembling; for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure.

The following are a listing of but a few of the many texts which call upon the believer to take an active part in his Christian experience:

John 14:15: If you love Me, keep My commandments.

1 Cor 9:27: But I discipline my body and bring it into subjection, lest, when I have preached to others, I myself should become disqualified.2

Heb 13:1-5: Let brotherly love continue. Do not forget to entertain strangers, Remember the prisoners, Fornicators and adulterers God will judge. Let your conduct be without covetousness; be content with such things as you have.

James 1:22: But be doers of the word, and not hearers only…

1 Pet 1:16: Because it is written, “Be holy, for I am holy.”

1 John 2:28: And now, little children, abide in Him, that when He appears, we may have confidence and not be ashamed before Him at His coming.

The idea that believers have no role to play in their own sanctification is not only unbiblical. It is also unhealthy. It certainly leads people to doubt whether they are saved since according to this view if you fail to persevere you prove that you were never saved in the first place. That, in turn, leads to despair. To know that hell is real and yet to lack certainty that we are eternally secure is terrible. Some respond to the despair by doing what their view says they can’t: trying harder. Others respond to it by giving up. After all, if it’s all up to God, what difference does it make what I do?

Man has a role to play in present sanctification. It is not an independent role. Apart from God taking the initiative and giving us “all things that pertain to life and godliness” (2 Pet 1:3), no growth would take place. However, since God has done this, believers can respond. It is to that response that we now turn our attention.

What follows are a number of specific things which God has commanded believers to do. They are important aspects of the believer’s responsibility in present sanctification. Our success or failure in carrying out these commands has a definite impact on our progress in the faith.


II. The Believer’s Responsibilities in Present Sanctification

A. Living by Faith

Believing in Christ is a condition of both justification and present sanctification. On the one hand, only those who believe in Christ are regenerate (John 3), and only regenerate people can experience present sanctification. On the other hand, it is possible for a believer to take his or her eyes off the Lord Jesus Christ, the Author and Finisher of our faith (Heb 12:2). In order to continue to grow as a Christian, we must continue to look to our Savior. While we are eternally secure from the moment we trust Christ (John 5:24; 10:27-29; Rom 8:38-39), that does not mean that our faith will never falter.

Galatians 2:20 includes a statement about the need for ongoing faith in Christ. It reads:

I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me (emphasis added).

Likewise, 2 Cor 5:7 says, “For we walk by faith, not by sight” (emphasis added).

The portions italicized highlight an important aspect of present sanctification which many believers underestimate or ignore: continuing to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. The path of righteousness begins and ends by grace through faith. If our faith falters, so, too, does our progress in holiness.

Ultimately, of course, believers are commanded to believe all aspects of God’s truth. When people become Christians they believe that Jesus Christ freely gives them eternal life. They know that they have eternal life because they trust His promise (e.g., John 6:47). However, that does not mean that they either know or believe everything the Bible says.3 They need to read and study the Bible so they can come to know and believe more and more of what it contains.

While there are thousands of vital truths to be believed in Scripture, most believers recognize a handful of basics, or fundamental truths (often called the Fundamentals). These include the deity of Christ, His virgin birth, His literal bodily resurrection from the dead, His Second Coming, and the inerrancy of Scripture. For a person who has been a Christian for years to stray from the truth on one of these subjects, even if he or she remains clear on the Gospel itself, is a major problem. Compare, for example, 2 Tim 2:17-18, which concerns doctrinal defection regarding the future resurrection of our bodies, 2 Thess 2:1ff., which deals with defective thinking on Christ’s Second Coming, and Gal 2:11ff., which reports an occasion in Antioch when Peter and Barnabus withdrew from the Gentile believers there and would not eat meals with them.

Zane Hodges writes:

Let there be no mistake. The failure of one’s faith is a grim possibility on the field of spiritual battle. To deny this is to be spiritually unprepared for the enemy’s assault.

But equally, to acknowledge it is not in any way an invitation to fall prey to satanic falsehoods—far from it. The Commander still challenges us to stand firm against our foe. He still commands allegiance to His truth.4

B. Being Baptized

Some denominations and groups overemphasize baptism by making it a requirement for eternal life. That view is called baptismal regeneration. Scripture rejects such a view since it teaches that the only condition of eternal life is believing the Gospel (cf. John 3:16; 5:24; 6:47: 11:25-27; 20:30-31; Acts 10:43-48; 1 Cor 1:17).5

[The content of that belief is that Jesus Christ paid for our sins - the sins of all mankind]


Other denominations and groups go to the other extreme and underemphasize baptism by rarely practicing it or talking about it. At one time I was a member of a large conservative church which was solid on the Gospel but weak on baptism. Baptism was almost never mentioned from the pulpit and baptismal services were rarely scheduled. I recall only a handful of people being baptized over the course of five years. Sometimes a whole year would go by without one baptism being conducted.

Before He ascended to heaven, our Lord Himself taught that baptism is the first step in discipleship:

Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you. . . (Matt 28:19-20).

Note what He told the apostles to do in order to make disciples: (1) baptize and (2) teach. The words translated “baptizing” and “teaching” are participles in Greek as well as in the NKJV. They are circumstantial participles expressing the manner in which the command they modify (make disciples) was to be carried out.6 This, of course, presupposes that they would evangelize (cf. Mark 16:15; Acts 1:8). The apostles were to baptize and teach those who came to faith in Christ.

On the day of Pentecost the apostles began carrying out the command to make disciples. They baptized and began teaching those who came to faith as a result of their preaching that day. The apostles baptized 3,000 people on the Church’s birthday (Acts 2:41). Then they set about to teach them. Acts 2:42 says, “And they continued steadfastly in the apostles’ doctrine and fellowship, in the breaking of bread, and in prayers.”

Baptism is more than a public confession of our faith in Christ. It is also an indication that a person is entering into discipleship.7 Thus, while baptism is not a condition of eternal life, it is nonetheless important. It is an important first step on the road of present sanctification. To avoid being baptized is to disobey the Lord’s command and to miss out on an vital element of our Christian experience.

C. Counting the Cost

One cannot read the teaching of Jesus on discipleship without recognizing that discipleship is costly. To follow Christ on the path of obedience is to pay a price.

Putting it another way, present sanctification extracts a price. To grow significantly as a Christian we must make a decision at some point in our Christian experience: Is it worth the cost to follow Christ? Am I willing to suffer for Him? Am I willing to give up my time, money, pleasures, friends, family, or whatever it takes to do what He says (cf. Luke 14:26-33)? Ultimately to be a wholehearted disciple of Christ we must be willing to give up everything we have and hope to have, including not only our possessions, but also our reputations, our comforts, and our time. Jesus said, “Whoever of you does not forsake all that he has cannot be My disciple” (Luke 14:33).

Lordship Salvation advocates claim that unbelievers must count the cost of discipleship and decide if they are willing to pay the price in order to obtain eternal life. In his book Christ’s Call to Discipleship, James Montgomery Boice has a chapter entitled “Counting the Cost” (pp. 105-14). There he gives the following answer to the question “What [is] the minimum amount of doctrine or belief a person [has] to have to be a Christian?”:

The minimum amount a person must believe to be a Christian is everything, and the minimum amount a person must give is all. I say, “You must give it all. You cannot hold back even a fraction of a percentage of yourself. Every sin must be abandoned. Every false thought must be repudiated. You must be the Lord’s entirely” [italics in original].8

I am deeply saddened to read such a terrible distortion of the Gospel of God’s Grace. To confuse justification and present sanctification is a grievous error. It hinders unbelievers from being saved since it presents them with a badly garbled gospel.

God requires that we count the cost of discipleship repeatedly. In Rom 12:1 Paul urged the believers in the church at Rome to “present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service.” That every believer needs to do this daily is suggested by the context and by other passages of Scripture. Romans 12:2 goes on to speak of the need to be transformed by the renewing of one’s mind—surely something which must be done repeatedly. Likewise, in Luke 9:23 Jesus said, “If anyone desires to come after Me…let him take up his cross daily” (emphasis supplied).

I went to school with a young man of Arab descent who grew up in the Middle East. When he trusted in Christ, he had to count the cost of following Christ immediately. He knew that if he submitted to Christian baptism, his family would disown him. He counted the cost and was baptized. As he had feared, his family then disowned him. They considered him as a dead man. They would not have anything more to do with him. I was touched by his level of commitment. It encouraged me to be ready to pay any price in my walk with Christ.

D. Receiving Christian Instruction

Closely related to counting the cost is getting involved in Christian instruction. The Scriptures plainly teach that present sanctification requires education. There is no such thing as instant spirituality. One does not “arrive” in the Christian life at the point of faith—or at some significant point of commitment, either. Growth takes time plus obedience to what God has said. And to learn what God has said takes instruction.

The apostle Peter ended his second epistle with these words:

You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked; but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

Peter’s readers knew that growing in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior requires Christian instruction (cf. 1 Pet 4:10-11; 5:1-5; 2 Pet 1:12-15; 3:16).

The normal place for Christian instruction is the local church. Paul instructed Timothy to teach “faithful men who will be able to teach others also” (2 Tim 2:12). Likewise, Paul told Titus: “Speak the things which are proper for sound doctrine” (Titus 2:1). The sound doctrine Paul had in mind was not merely doctrine about salvation, the Lord Jesus, the Holy Spirit, eschatology, and the like. He clearly also had the doctrine of the Christian walk in mind, for he went on to speak of the need to be sober, reverent, temperate (v 2), not given to much wine (v 3), loving one’s spouse and children (v 4), and so forth.

There are many ways in which a person can receive instruction, including hearing the Word taught on Sunday morning and Sunday evening, Sunday school, training union, participating in Bible study groups, reading commentaries and books, listening to tapes, and attending a Christian College, Bible College, or seminary.

Unfortunately, today some people define discipleship so narrowly that they unwittingly discourage certain meetings of the church. I was an elder in a church where the issue of Christian instruction and discipleship became a topic for extended board discussion. The pastor felt that the only real Christian instruction and discipleship took place in small groups that met outside the church building (in homes and restaurants, for example). He did not think that meetings in the church, such as Sunday School, the preaching service, the Lord’s Supper, seminars, conferences, or special classes, were elements in discipleship!

Many believers today receive a major part of their Christian instruction through parachurch groups such as Christian colleges, seminaries, on-campus Christian organizations, Overseas Christian Servicemen Centers, prison ministries, and others. This is not unbiblical, for all of those outreaches should be designed to assist the local church, not to rival or supplant it. However, care must be taken that a person doesn’t begin to view his involvement in a parachurch organization as replacing his need for local church involvement.

One growing problem is that church attendance and involvement is dropping off for members of conservative churches. A generation or two ago it was common for Christians to go to church at least three times a week: Sunday morning, Sunday evening, and Wednesday evening. Sadly some conservative Christians today are not even in church three times in a month.

Commenting on the importance of corporate worship on Sunday, Charles Ryrie writes, “To neglect the Lord’s Day is to slight Him, to blunt the testimony to His resurrection, and to miss the benefits of the ministry and protection of corporate worship” (italics added).9

Christian instruction is a lifetime proposition. You can’t end your education prior to going to be with the Lord without calamitous results. Anyone who thinks that he no longer needs instruction is sadly mistaken.

E. Abiding in Christ

Jesus said, “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing” (John 15:5).

One’s Christian experience is at its heart a personal relationship. While there are commands to be obeyed, it is wrong to think of walking with Christ as some legalistic exercise. He cares whether we obey His commands or not because it pleases Him when we do and grieves Him when we don’t (cf. 2 Cor 5:9; Eph 4:30).

On several occasions God has changed the commandments. In the Garden of Eden there were only a few commands: tend the garden, be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth, and don’t eat the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. Once Adam and Eve were expelled from Eden, two of those commands were no longer in force. Under the Mosaic Law there was a host of laws for purification and many sacrifices that we no longer are obligated to obey (though we are obligated to apply those timeless principles which they taught, Rom 7:12; 2 Tim 3:16-17). “Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes” (Rom 10:4).

What is timeless is that God delights in the obedience of His children. He is deeply grieved by things like idolatry (which he calls playing the harlot!—cf. Jer 2:20; 3:6; Ezek 16:20ff.), taking His name in vain, immorality, haughtiness, lying, false measures, etc. He wants His children to live like children of God—which is what believers are (John 1:12).

In Romans 7 Paul teaches that if a Christian focuses on the prohibitions he will likely fail to obey God. Being obsessed with commands is the path to disobedience and despair, not to obedience and joy (7:13-24). Rather, Paul goes on to say, we must focus on Christ Himself (7:25). By looking to Him, we can find the motivation and strength we need to obey.

Witness a small child at play in the home of a stranger. What do wise parents do when their child begins to play with things in that home which are dangerous or fragile? They do not recite a set of rules to a one year old. Instead, they divert the child’s attention to something else which is safe. So, too, when a child of God is tempted to sin, he or she needs to look to Christ. By contemplating Him, we regain proper focus and the appeal of the temptation diminishes.

This is one of the main reasons why the Lord gave us His Supper. We are to contemplate Christ as we eat the bread, drink the fruit of the vine, and hear the Word taught (cf. 1 Cor 11:23-33; 14:26-39). Regular participation in the Lord’s Supper in a contemplative environment can do wonders for one’s walk with Christ.

We can contemplate Christ in many other ways as well: prayer, Bible reading and Bible study, fellowship, witnessing, and meditation on Scripture. Contemplation of Christ is not some great mystery reserved for monks and recluses. All believers can and should regularly contemplate Christ.

Our aim in life should be “to be well pleasing to Him” (2 Cor 5:9). Our allegiance is not to a cold set of rules. It is to a Person, the Lord Jesus Christ (Col 3:24). We are obeying a Person who loves us and whom we love (1 John 4:19: “We love Him because He first loved us”). Attitude is a key element in man’s role in present sanctification. Our attitude should be an abiding determination to obey our loving Lord.

F. Feeding on God’s Word

Present sanctification relies heavily on regularly partaking of God’s Word. After all, God communicated with us so that we might know how to obey Him and that we might be continually motivated to do so.

The Psalmist said to God, “Your word I have hidden in my heart, that I might not sin against You” (Ps 119:11). Paul instructed Timothy, “Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth” (2 Tim 2:15). Peter wrote, “As newborn babes, desire the pure milk of the word, that you may grow thereby” (1 Pet 2:2). The Lord Jesus, citing Deut 8:3, said, “Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God” (Matt 4:4).

Many churches are moving away from verse-by-verse Bible exposition and replacing it with string-of-pearls sermons which merely touch on a text briefly and then, like the prodigal son, depart to a far country. I think that this is a dangerous trend. Illustrations and applications, while important, should not become the heart of messages.

Take a look at the Christian books which are popular today. Self-help books do well. Commentaries and books on theology, however, do not. In fact, it is not uncommon to go into a Christian home and find few if any commentaries or books on doctrine.

I am not suggesting that preachers and teachers should eliminate illustrations and applications. What I am saying, however, is that a vital element in discipleship is learning from the Scriptures. Well-chosen illustrations and applications can help us understand and apply the text. However, it is the Word of God which is of primary importance.

The Word of God is profitable for reproof, correction, teaching, and training in righteousness (2 Tim 3:16-17). It is vital, then, that we take it in, chew on it, and allow it to transform our way of thinking and acting (Rom 12:1-2). This can be done by reading (I like reading through the entire Bible in a year using a one-year Bible), study, memorization, meditation, and listening to it being taught.

Lewis Sperry Chafer wrote:

It is as His Word abides in the believer that he is in the place of spiritual achievement (John 15:7). There is little hope for victory in daily life on the part of those believers who, being ignorant of the Word of God, do not know the nature of their conflict or the deliverance God has provided. Over against this, there is no estimating the sanctifying power of the Word of God. Our Savior prayed, “Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth” (John 17:17).10

G. Praying

God delights in the prayers of His children (Psalm 147; Rev 5:8; 8:3-4). In the words, “Give us this day our daily bread” (Matt 6:11), it is clear that God wants us to daily beseech Him to meet our needs. The apostle Paul commanded the Thessalonian believers, and through them all believers, to “pray without ceasing” (1 Thess 5:17). He was asking them to do something which was characteristic of his life (e.g., “without ceasing I remember you in my prayers night and day,” 1 Tim 1:3). Daniel made it a practice to pray three times each day, even when he knew it might well cost him his life in a lion’s den (Dan 6:10). So, too, did David (Ps 55:17).

Regular, daily prayer takes discipline and concerted effort. It is sadly possible for a believer to go through the whole day and not speak to God even once. This should not be. Prayer is a vital aspect of man’s role in present sanctification.

In fact, part of our prayer life should be directed at praying for our own sanctification (Ps 32:6; Matt 6:13; 26:40-41; 1 John 1:9; Jude 20) and for that of others (2 Cor 13:7; Eph 3:14-21; Phil 1:9-11; 1 Thess 5:25; 2 Thess 3:1-2; 1 Tim 2:1ff.). We should beseech God to give us strength to control our tongue, to stay free of bitterness, covetousness, envy, jealousy, and immorality, and to walk in a manner pleasing to Him.

I know someone who is a prominent figure in the Gospel debate who has been widely attacked in print for his strong advocacy of the Free Grace position. All who know him recognize him as a man who not only believes in grace but who also lives it. He has indicated that he is convinced the reason he has not become bitter in the face of all the harsh words thrown at him is because every day he asks God to keep him from bitterness.

Prayerlessness makes us vulnerable to temptation (cf. Matt 6:13; 26:41) and works against our growth. Prayer is the linchpin of present sanctification. Neglect prayer and the wheels may come off your spiritual cart!

H. Stirring One Another Up to Love and Good Works

Hebrews 10:24-25 reads:

And let us consider one another in order to stir up love and good works, not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some, but exhorting one another, and so much the more as you see the Day approaching.

Assembling together with other believers is a biblically mandated way “to stir up love and good works” on the part of the believers present. A person who comes each week to a church where God’s Word is clearly taught in a loving, caring environment is not likely to fall away from the Lord. Rather, as the author of Hebrews says, that typically has the effect of stirring one up to love and good deeds. Or, stated oppositely, one who stays away from the assembly of the local church runs the real risk of backsliding in his or her Christian experience.11

To walk with God one must assemble together with other believers to partake of the Lord’s Supper, to be taught, to be exhorted, to pray, to sing, and to worship. The group may be large or small. Size is not the point.12 Assembling regularly with other believers in a local church is.

I. Witnessing

God wants all believers to share the Gospel with unbelievers. While only some Christians have the spiritual gift of evangelism, all are called on to evangelize. Compare Matt 10:32-33; Mark 16:15; 2 Cor 5:20. That last verse indicates that all Christians are ambassadors for Christ.

Believers who think that their growth will not suffer if they fail to share their faith are sadly mistaken. Witnessing helps us grow in the faith in many ways. It causes us to study God’s Word more so that we can answer the questions which we are asked. It moves us to pray for the lost and to pray for new believers. It keeps ever before us the fact that we are strangers and aliens in this world.

When someone trusts Christ through our witness, we are encouraged. If we then help the new believer grow in the faith, we ourselves grow as we teach.

In addition to these things, sharing our faith is a means by which we share in Christ’s sufferings. Paul told Timothy: “Therefore do not be ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me His prisoner, but share with me in the sufferings for the gospel according to the power of God” (2 Tim 1:8). Similarly Jesus said, “Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all manner of evil against you falsely for My sake” (Matt 5:11).

No Christian is exempt from witnessing. Few have the gift of giving, but all are commanded to give. Few have the gift of helps, but all are needed to help. Few have the gift of evangelism, but all are commanded to evangelize.

Clarity in evangelism is, of course, absolutely crucial if we are to please God when we witness. Mormons and Jehovah’s Witnesses go door to door regularly. Some of them spend 30 hours or more a month at it. Yet this does not please God because their message is wrong.

I once heard a missionary tell how he supposedly led a tribe to Christ. The chief came to him and said, “We want to become Christians. What do we need to do?” The missionary’s answer to this thrilling question was this: “Follow Christ.” How sad I was to hear this. The man wanted to know what he needed to do to become a Christian. He should have been told that eternal life is a free gift to all who but trust Jesus Christ and Him alone for it. Instead, he was essentially told to work his way to heaven by following Christ.

How tragic it is that many of the missionaries and evangelists today are not clear on the Gospel. The fact that this is so makes it even more important for those of us who are clear on the Gospel to share our faith. The need is great.

Robert Lightner comments on the need for Christians, as ambassadors of Christ, to be clear on the Gospel:

Another outstanding characteristic of an ambassador is the fact that he has news to tell. It is not his prerogative to amplify, add to, or alter that news in any way. He simply delivers information from those who sent him.13

III. Conclusion

God plays a vital role in the growth of every believer. Apart from His work in our lives, growth would not take place. However, He has not arranged it so that growth takes place totally apart from the believer himself. Believers have a role to play as well (Phil 2:12-13).

The believer’s role in present sanctification includes living by faith, being baptized, counting the cost, receiving Christian instruction, abiding in Christ, reading, feeding on God’s Word, praying, stirring one another up to love and good deeds, and witnessing.

The Free Grace position powerfully promotes progressive sanctification, yet without annihilating assurance or muddling motivation.

ENDNOTES

1The expression work out your own salvation does not refer to working to obtain eternal salvation. Rather, it refers to bringing about deliverance from temporal difficulties. For further discussion see “Working Out Your Salvation (Philippians 2:12),” The Grace Evangelical Society News, May-June 1993, 2-3.

2Disqualified here means disapproved for reward. For more discussion see Zane C. Hodges’s Absolutely Free! A Biblical Reply to Lordship Salvation (Dallas: Redenci�n Viva, 1989), 201-202.

3For example, while I believe the Bible teaches baptism by immersion, that is not a part of the Gospel. A person could be saved without even knowing about or believing in baptism by immersion.

4Absolutely Free!, 111-12.

5See Journal of the Grace Evangelical Society, “We Believe in Water Baptism,” by Arthur L. Farstad, Spring 1990, 3-9; “The Gospel and Water Baptism: A Study of Acts 2:38,” by Lanny Thomas Tanton, Spring 1990, 27-52; “The Gospel and Water Baptism: A Study of Acts 22:16,” by Lanny Thomas Tanton, Spring 1991, 23-40.

6See Leon Morris, The Gospel According to Matthew (Grand Rapids: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co., 1992), 749n.; Alan Hugh McNeile, The Gospel According to St. Matthew, Reprint ed. (Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1980), 436. See also A. T. Robertson, A Grammar of the Greek New Testament in the Light of Historical Research (Nashville: Broadman Press, 1934), 1128.

7Discipleship in the NT has at its basic sense being a pupil or learner of Christ. See Bauer, Gingrich, and Danker, A Greek English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature (Chicago: The University of Chicago Press, 1970), s.v. “matheteuo” and “mathetes,” 485.

8Christ’s Call to Discipleship (Chicago: Moody Press, 1986), 114.

9Basic Theology (Wheaton: Victor Books, 1986), 432.

10Systematic Theology, 8 volumes (Dallas: Dallas Seminary Press, 1947), 2:333.

11See, for example, the comments by Zane Hodges in The Bible Knowledge Commentary, NT Edition, s.v. “Hebrews,” (Wheaton: Victor Books, 1983 ), edited by John F. Walvoord and Roy B. Zuck, 805.

12 The editor of our Journal, for example, has had a church that meets in his home for over twenty years. The group is small. But the impact on those attending each week is not.

13 Cf. Robert P. Lightner, Sin, The Savior, and Salvation (Nashville: Thomas Nelson Publishers, 1991), 277. See also Charlie Bing’s article, “How to Share the Gospel Clearly,” Journal of the Grace Evangelical Society, Spring 1994, 51-65.

Appendix:

Questions and Answers About Man’s Role in Present Sanctification


Question #1. What is the relationship between present sanctification and assurance of salvation?

There are many today who teach that clearly evident progress in present sanctification (i.e., good works) is indispensable for assurance of salvation. This view, however, is unbiblical and leads to devastating practical problems.

To disprove that view all one needs to find is one verse in which someone was given assurance of salvation apart from works. There are a host of such passages.

Consider John 11:25-27, where Jesus questioned Martha as to whether she believed in Him and then accepted her confession of faith without objection. If assurance were dependent on ongoing good works, Jesus would have had to add a warning that she might not be truly saved.

The apostle Paul had complete assurance of salvation (Rom 8:38-39), and yet he was not certain he would persevere until the end of his life (e.g., 1 Cor 9:27).

Paul affirmed the salvation of Timothy and Titus in Scripture, mentioning only their faith (cf. 1 Tim 1:2; 2 Tim 1:5; Titus 1:4). He did not restrict that assurance in any way. He was 100% sure that they were saved apart from their works. And, since Paul was an apostle and he was asserting their salvation in inspired Scripture, Timothy and Titus were certain of their own salvation apart from their works.

Likewise, the apostle Peter told Cornelius and his household that they were saved (Acts 10:43-48). On what basis did he do this? Surely not on the basis of their works, for they had only been Christians for a few minutes when he made his declaration. They hadn’t had time to do any good works. They certainly hadn’t persevered in the faith until the end. Rather, Peter asserted their salvation on the basis that they had “received the Holy Spirit” (v 47). And it is clear in context that they received the Holy Spirit as a result of believing in Jesus Christ (v 43).

The apostles were absolutely 100% certain of their salvation. They knew they could not possibly do anything to lose it or to prove they never had it in the first place. They had Jesus’ own word for it (cf. Luke 10:20; John 13:10). Their assurance was not dependent on their progress in present sanctification either.

In addition, there are many passages which promise such assurance to anyone who trusts Christ and Him alone for eternal life. In John 6:47 Jesus said, “He who believes in Me has everlasting life.” In John 5:24 He said, “He who hears My word and believes on Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.”

Biblically the evidence is clear. Assurance is not dependent on progress in present sanctification. Practically this follows as well. Not one of us could have assurance if it were linked to our works, since our works are imperfect (1 John 1:8,10). Only perfect works could grant certainty of salvation (which is what assurance is). In fact, even if a person lived a perfect life for years, he couldn’t be sure that he wouldn’t sin the next day and lose his salvation or prove he never really had it!

Linking assurance to works can have devastating results. Christians who accept this teaching are discouraged and insecure (because they know hell exists and yet they aren’t sure if they will spend eternity there or not) and are in denial as to the extent of their own sinfulness. This greatly hinders their progress in present sanctification. Discouragement and insecurity do not promote holiness. Neither does denial of one’s own sinfulness.

Non Christians who accept this teaching are also discouraged and insecure and in denial as to the extent of their sinfulness. Worse still, this teaching greatly hinders them from being saved. It reinforces their natural inclination to attempt to be good enough to merit eternal salvation.


Question #2. What are proper and improper motivations to pursue personal holiness?

There are two major improper motivations: fear of hell and seeking the praise of men. Believers should not fear hell (John 10:28-29; Rom 8:38-39). To attempt to live a godly life so you can avoid going to hell is works-salvation thinking pure and simple.

Believers should also avoid seeking to please men as a primary aim (Gal 1:10). We are to seek to please God, not men. To be baptized to impress one’s parents or friends, for example, is wrong. Similarly, to attend church so others will think more highly of you is to be wrongly motivated.

Positive biblical motivations include love and gratitude, the prospect of God’s blessings if we obey and of His discipline if we disobey, and the Judgment Seat of Christ and eternal rewards.

The grace of God produces a powerful sense of love and gratitude which should motivate the believer to please God (2 Cor 5:14).

While the blessings are not always material, God does bless obedience (e.g., Matt 6:31-34; Gal 5:22-23). Things go better for the obedient believer. On the other hand, the disobedient believer will experience trials and difficulties as part of God’s hand of discipline (Prov 22:8; Heb 12:3-11).

There are also significant future consequences to how we live. Those who are enduring in the faith when they go to be with the Lord will have eternal treasure and will rule with Christ forever (Matt 6:19-21; 1 Cor 3:10-15; 9:24-27; 2 Tim 2:12). All believers will appear at Jesus’ Judgment Seat someday. Only those who have done well in their Christian experience will hear His “Well done” (Luke 19:11-26; 2 Cor 5:9-10).

It is naive to think that if a person can be absolutely certain of his salvation apart from his works that he would have no motivation to holiness. Love and gratitude, blessings for obedience and discipline for disobedience, and the prospect of eternal rewards all are powerful motivators for the person who is sure of his salvation to please God.

Question #3. Is present sanctification optional?

Lordship Salvation advocates feel that Free Grace people treat the issue of backsliding believers too casually. As a result, they often ask the question, “Is present sanctification optional?”

Actually, it grieves us to hear of fellow believers who have experienced a major fall. Sin is sad. The difference is, we do not conclude that a sinning believer must not be a Christian at all. This in no way, however, condones the sin.

Present sanctification is commanded by God (1 Pet 1:16; Heb 12:14). In that sense it is clearly not optional.

God does not remove all sinful desires from believers until they die or are raptured. After that time believers are sinless and perfectly holy in their daily experience (1 John 3:1). Prior to that time they fall short of the glory of God (Rom 3:23; 1 John 1:8, 10).

Thus progress in present sanctification is a matter of degrees and is not an all-or-nothing proposition. If the above question is understood to mean something like, “Is it possible for a Christian to disobey God and to grieve Him?” the answer isYes

(cf. 1 Kings 11:1-11; 1 Cor 3:1-3; 11:30; Eph 4:30; James 5:19-20).


Question #4. Is some minimum level of personal holiness guaranteed?

There is no passage in Scripture which promises such a thing or which paints a picture of the minimum level of godliness which all believers will attain. Even those in the Lordship Salvation camp find it impossible and undesirable to create a picture of what such a minimum level would look like.

What of a Christian who dies seconds after trusting Christ? Surely this has happened a number of times in history (e.g., deathbed conversions, battlefield conversions). How many good works could a person do in a few seconds?

Even when considering those who live for decades after trusting Christ, why should they aim for mediocrity? Why not excellence? Paul said, “And whatever you do, do it heartily, as to the Lord and not to men, knowing that it is from the Lord you will receive the reward of the inheritance” (Col 3:23-24).

The Bible does teach that God desires all believers to produce fruit which honors Him (e.g., Eph 2:10). Like a track coach calling to his charges to do their best, God calls upon believers to obey Him (1 Pet 1:16). Even more, He provides the power necessary to obey (2 Pet 1:3). He does not, however, remove our ability to disobey or guarantee some minimum level of achievement.

Question #5. Is perfection possible in this life?

First John 1:8 says, “If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.” This looks at our present experience. Verse 10 of 1 John 1 looks at our past experience and affirms that past sinlessness is also impossible: “If we say we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.”

It is impossible to achieve sinless perfection prior to death or the Rapture. After those events, however, it is guaranteed for the believer (1 John 3:2).


Question #6. Is there such a thing as a carnal Christian?

In 1 Cor 3:1-3 Paul chides the Corinthian Christians for being carnal. The word carnal means fleshly. The Corinthian believers to which Paul was writing had been believers for about 4 or 5 years. That was plenty of time for them to have grown and matured in the faith, yet they were “still carnal” (v 3) and were still “babes in Christ” (v 1).

On the one hand, Paul clearly says that Christians can be carnal. That is, Christians can live in such a way that they are not manifesting spiritual maturity.

On the other hand, Paul does not use the expression “carnal Christian.” He does not establish this as a special type of believer, any more than a baby is a special type of human. Carnality is a stage of development that all new Christians should soon grow out of as they mature in the faith. Unfortunately, however, just as adults can act like children, so too those who have been believers for years, like the Corinthians, can still act in immature childish ways.

Therefore, the answer to this question is “yes and no.” Yes, Christians can be carnal and can act carnally. No, there is technically no special category of believer called carnal believers.


Question #7. Hebrews 12:14 reads: “Pursue peace with all people, and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord.” What does that mean? Does it teach that there is a certain level of holiness we must achieve in this life in order to be saved?

Lordship Salvationists see in this verse a warning to all believers. They suggest that this passage implicitly teaches that believers prove whether they are true or false believers by their behavior. True believers will heed this warning and will achieve final salvation. False believers will not and will be eternally condemned.

Such an interpretation is illogical. If eternal security is true, and it is, then no believer can lose his salvation. Believers don’t need any commands or warnings in order to stay saved. Even false professors, those who think they believe the Gospel and yet are actually believing a counterfeit gospel, do not need to be warned to get to work. They need to be warned that they don’t believe the Gospel. No such warning is present here since the author is writing to Christians (cf. Heb 12:2, “looking to Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith”). False professors need to be given the Gospel so that they can believe it and be saved. However, the Gospel is not presented here.

The Lordship Salvation interpretation is also forced. They are reading their theology back into a verse, not letting the verse speak for itself. The verse says that no one will see the Lord without holiness. It is clear from verses like 1 John 3:2, “We know that when He is revealed, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is,” that when believers see the Lord we will be perfectly holy, sinless. That is what is called ultimate or future sanctification.

The author of Hebrews is challenging believers to strive now to live like we will live forever. It is like Peter citing the Lord’s command from Leviticus, “Be holy, for I am holy” (1 Pet 1:16). It is also like Paul saying, “I beseech you to walk worthy of the calling with which you were called” (Eph 4:1).

 

Question #8. Second Corinthians 13:5 reads, “Examine yourselves as to whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Do you not know yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?—unless indeed you are disqualified.” What does that mean? Does it command believers to look at their works to see if they are regenerate?

Some see in this verse a command to test our salvation by our works. But that interpretation flies in the face of Scripture. In both First and Second Corinthians Paul asserted that he was writing to genuine believers: “To those who are sanctified in Christ Jesus” (1 Cor 1:2). “Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own?” (1 Cor 6:19). “You are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read by all men; clearly you are an epistle of Christ, ministered by us, written not with ink but by the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of flesh, that is, of the heart” (2 Cor 3:2-3). “For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ…” (2 Cor 5:10). Why would Paul come to the end of the second letter and question the salvation of people whose salvation he had consistently affirmed? He wouldn’t.

If the Corinthian believers needed to examine themselves to see if they were saved, then so do all believers. There is no hint here of this being a special requirement for assurance in Corinth. And, if believers need to do this once, then they need to do it over and over again for our works are not perfect and they do not remain static.

However, we know that people like the apostles, Timothy, Titus, Cornelius and his household, Martha, and many others had absolute certainty of their salvation apart from their works (see question 1 above). Why would God have absolute assurance apart from works for some believers and not for all?

Note the last word in 2 Cor 13:5. In the Greek it is the word adokimos. Paul said in 1 Cor 9:27 that he feared that after he had preached to others he himself might be disqualified (adokimos). Clearly he did not fear hell. What he did fear was being disapproved for the prize of ruling with Christ (1 Cor 9:24-25; cf. 2 Tim 2:12). Likewise, the Corinthians were in danger of being disapproved for that prize.

It is a mistake to assume that “in the faith” here refers to being saved. A look at the preceding verses shows that some of the Corinthians doubted that Paul himself was Christ’s spokesman (v 3). So in v 5 Paul asks them to examine themselves rather than him! They questioned whether he spoke for Christ. He challenges them to see if they speak for Christ. When he says, “examine yourselves to see if you are in the faith,” he is referring to their experience, not to their position. Were they in the faith in their behavior?

Similarly, in this context when Paul questions them as to whether or not Christ is in them, he is not questioning their salvation. He is questioning their present sanctification. He wants them to see whether Christ is experientially active in their lives or not. Paul wrote something very similar to the Ephesian believers. He prayed “that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith” (Eph 3:17). These were saved people and he was praying that Christ might dwell, or be completely at home, in their hearts."



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[JP]

LET’S NOT BE ASHAMED OF THE GOSPEL

My prayer is that this article will help pastors, ministers, and leaders in the church begin a journey of discerning the differences between what is genuine grace and what is counterfeit grace.

[BSM]

Since the phrases "genuine grace" and "counterfeit grace" and explanations of what these phrases mean do not appear in God's Word, it is best to simply bypass them and stick with what God's Word explains what grace means = unmerited favor/ blessing / deliverance, etc. depending upon context which is provided by God for someone that they did not do anything to deserve to receive. God's grace is NOT some kind of power which is imbued in an individual that he can then exert toward some end as some contend, such as growing in the faith under his own auspices. If it is considered by some such as Joseph Prince as counterfeit grace, it is not grace at all. There is no such thing as counterfeit grace. It is simply not grace. On the other hand, "genuine grace" does not need the word "genuine" to modify it. Grace is grace or it is not grace at all, (Ro 11:6).


[JP]

Many of the thoughts shared here are taken from and covered more extensively in my book, Grace Revolution—Experience the Power to Live Above Defeat.12 


[BSM]

The book title "Grace Revolution" is problematic and unbiblical. God's grace does not need a revolution.  God is immutable and beyond time. How He operates which is largely through His grace does not need a revamping / change. Joseph Prince seems to think that God is restricted to operate within time. But He is outside of time and does not have to make periodic corrections in how He operates. Some even contend that God has to wait for man to decide to make his move and then God responds. But God created the passage of time. Everything that happens in the universe He decreed before the universe existed - even to the smallest action such as the precise location of a subatomic particle as it makes its way through an atom - moment to moment to moment BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE UNIVERSE WAS CREATED .


Furthermore, individuals do not experience the power to live above defeat in this life. The only power in view is the Power of God when He delivers an individual from defeat or by God graciously providing circumstances in your life that aide in helping you work through your defeat. I have not found the expression "experience the power to live above defeat," in Scripture. The individual experiences the power of God delivering him from defeat. And at times an individual suffers and is not delivered. It is all up to the sovereignty of God. Depending upon the individual's relationship with God and circumstances involved, an individual might suffer defeat or be blessed with victory.


[JP]

I implore you as a brother in Christ to not back away from the gospel of grace because of hearsay, counterfeit teachings, controversies, and a small minority who abuse and misrepresent the gospel by the way they live.

[BSM]

The best way to avoid "hearasy, counterfeit teachings, unbiblical controversies [there are legitimate biblical controversies such as when you are contending for the faith - Jude 3, Phil 1:27-30] abuse and misrepresentation of the gospel is to simply READ THE BIBLE PROPERLY and contend for what you have learned what the bible says. For proper instruction click on this .



[JP]

The gospel of grace is the answer. Grace lifts a person who is struggling with sin out of a life of defeat.


[BSM]

Again, grace is the unmerited favor of God providing salvation unto eternal life, temporal blessings, deliverance from difficulties, etc. Grace does not lift a person who is struggling with sin out of a life of defeat. It is God Who lifts a person who is struggling with sin out of a life of defeat which person does not deserve His deliverance, but it is God Who exercises His power to deliver you despite the fact that you don't deserve it. That's what grace means. At other times God permits your difficulties so that you learn to persevere in the faith and depend upon Him and not count on your own efforts to get through that difficulty.


[JP]

Grace produces not an outward form of holiness that is transient, but an enduring holiness that is birthed from a transformation that begins in a person’s heart when he encounters Jesus.


[BSM]
Grace produces nothing, it is God Who produces. And because of Jesus Christ's propitiation for the sins of all mankind, God produces a great number of things for men by grace because His Son paid for it all. Grace means unmerited blessing / undeserved favor. Most often grace describes God's activity as providing individuals blessings / favors that individuals do not earn / deserve. Individuals do NOT exemplify a form of holiness in their behavior as a result of the grace of God providing eternal forgiveness and eternal life for them. They are instead credited with God's Righteousness that they do not exemplify in their lives hardly at all in accordance with His promise to transform them into Perfect Righteous beings at resurrection. Although believers - those that have expressed at least a moment of faith alone in Christ alone for eternal life - are thereby credited with God's Perfect Righteousness, i.e., Perfect Holiness, believers will begin to experience His Perfect Holiness only when they are resurrected and have received their promised resurrection bodies - and not before while they are in their mortal lives.


Joseph Prince's phrase "Grace produces not an outward form of holiness that is transient but an enduring holiness that is birthed from a transformation that begins in a person's heart when he encounters Jesus" is nonsensical and unbiblical. Grace produces nothing in an individual because it is God Who by His grace = unmerited favor produces / provides such things as eternal life, not the individual. Secondly, whatever "an outward form of holiness that is transient" is, it is not in Scripture whether good or bad. I suppose Joseph Prince means that it is only an appearance of but not genuine holiness / sinless perfection in a believer by the phrase "Grace produces not an outward form of holiness." But it has already been established that believers will not reach any form of holiness / sinless perfection until resurrection because all mankind except the Humanity of Jesus Christ still have a sin nature which causes the individual to be unable to have moments of holiness / sinless perfection. So there will not even be transient moments of holiness / sinless perfection in the experience of any believer's life, (1 Jn 1:8, 10); much less enduring holiness. Furthermore, Scripture does not stipulate that believers are "birthed from a transformation that begins in a person's heart when he encounters Jesus." There is no encounter with Jesus other than the believer being placed into Christ / His body at the moment of faith alone in Christ alone. That encounter does not result in an immediate transformation that begins in a person's heart = mind according to the Greek word for "heart" meaning the location within the individual of the seat of mental / cognitive capacity - the mind, i.e. the location where the activity of exercising faith / belief occurs - or does such a transformation take place anywhere else in an individuals body while in this temporal body. So the individual is not transformed into a holy person in the sense of experiencing moments of sinless perfection at any time in his mortal life. That will happen at the resurrection.

[JP]

This is what happened to Neil from the United Kingdom, who wrote to my ministry about how the Lord set him free from a forty-year struggle with a sexual addiction:

While reading a book by Pastor Prince, I was delivered from a forty-year addiction to pornography. In the past, I had tried to break free from this addiction by my own power and in my own strength, but failed every time.

Throughout that time, the devil used this addiction to heap fear, guilt, and condemnation on me. This fear and shame kept me from asking for help from the pastors of the various churches I attended over the forty-year period. I had even held leadership positions in some of these places.

As I read the book, I got a fresh revelation of who I am in Christ—I am the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus—and how there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. It was through this fresh revelation that the grip of this addiction was broken off my life forever.

[BSM]

Although, I am happy for this man's deliverance; I question his words which he wrote, "l got a fresh revelation of who I am in Christ" because it confuses the position a believer has in Christ with his temporal, daily experience. His words, "I am the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus" is his position he has in Christ at the moment when he expressed a moment of faith alone in Christ alone + nothing else in order to be saved unto eternal life - if he did this at all. There is some question as Pastor Joseph Prince does not seem to hold to this idea  of a moment of faith alone in Christ alone, such that he might think that salvation unto eternal life includes the possibility of other things so that progressive sanctification might occur, or even that supernatural experiences must verify ones salvation. So deliverance from something in ones daily life is not to be as a result of His being saved unto eternal life by his expression of a moment of faith alone in Christ alone - in Christ's propitiation of sins which results in him being declared righteous and placed into Christ, the body of Christ. Deliverance from temporal difficulties such as his addiction may come to him in his temporal life's experience because he is a believer and even a non-believer; but this is not a result of his salvation experience which includes his position, not his expereince of being declared righteous by God. Actually having the righteousness of God as a position or as an experience are not required to be delivered of temporal difficulties in ones physical lifetime. Note that Jesus healed many individuals - believers and unbelievers, and so did the apostles. So his words, "It was through this fresh revelation that the grip of this addiction was broken off in my life forever," is questionable. BTW, there are no new revelations which add to the 66 books of God's Word, until Christ comes again in His Second Coming.


[JP]

[Neil's testimony continues here:]

I now wear a ring to remind myself that I am righteous. Every time the devil tries to tempt me to view pornography, I just have to look at the ring to remind myself that I am the righteousness of God in Christ, and the temptation loses any hold on me.

[BSM]

Wearing a ring to remind oneself that one is Righteous in the sense of being just as Righteous as Jesus Christ is Righteous in ones experience is not going to happen because no one except Jesus Himself is capable of being as Righteous as He is in ones experience - ring or not; much less defeating ones temptation to commit a sin or sins. That is just not in Scripture. Believers will only become as Righteous as Jesus is Righteous in their experience when we will see Him as He is - after ones resurrection when they receive a resurrection body just like Jesus has.

[Compare 1 John 3:2]: “We know that when He is revealed, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is,”

On the other hand, being declared to have the Righteousness of God credited to ones account at the moment of faith alone will not cause temptation or anything else to go away. These things might be accomplished through prayer, fellow believers, other means such as medical organizations, etc. We are still individuals who, albeit saved unto eternal life, still have our sin natures intact. There is no passage which stipulates that believers have the life experience of having the Righteousness of Jesus Christ. Being declared to have the Righteousness of God credited to ones account does not signify that one acts with the Righteousness of God in ones experience in ones temporal life. The declaration that one has been credited with the Righteousness of God is a positional truth not an actual experiential reality / position until we get to meet Jesus in the Rapture when we will see Him as He is. It is God's promise to the believer to receive a Perfect Resurrection body that will in the future, in ones experience, be as Righteous as Christ's Resurrection body, after one's mortal life is over. Neil's declaration, "I now wear a ring to remind myself that I am righteous. Every time the devil tries to tempt me to view pornography, I just have to look at the ring to remind myself that I am the righteousness of God in Christ, and the temptation loses any hold on me." I am glad that Neil has separated himself from pornography however that was done - through prayer, self-determination, or other means not even connected with God, albeit He is sovereign and everything that happens on the planet is under His sovereignty and decrees.


[JP]

This is the power of the gospel. Precious lives like Neil’s are being touched, changed, and transformed by the love of our Lord Jesus.


[BSM]

The power of the Gospel does not include transforming lives relative to experiences in ones mortal life - such as being cured of diseases, or freed from addictions. These are other subjects which are not guaranteed when one is saved unto eternal life. It is God Whose power saves unto eternal life those who believe in His Son's propitiation for the sins of the whole world. By believing in the gospel of eternal life, God exercies His power and that individual will receive immediate posssession of eternal life - the process to be completed by God at that individual's resurrection to be transformed at resurrection into a perfect resurrection body with unimaginably great resurrection capacities. So the gospel is the good news of salvation unto eternal life obtained through a moment of faith alone in Jesus Christ alone by the sovereignty of God. It is not about curing addictions, diseases, getting a good job, having a happy marriage, etc. Those are other matters that may or may not occur during ones mortal lifetime, albeit by the grace and sovereignty of God.

[JP]

Our part as ministers entrusted with the gospel is not to back away from the truth, but to study the Word of God diligently, rightly divide His Word, and boldly proclaim His truth with absolute clarity and love. We must not be ashamed of the gospel.

[BSM]

Amen, except that Pastor Prince, you have shown NO evidence that you actually are doing that in this paper. Take a look at the proper method to interpret the Bible as I have posted here: utilizing the normative rules of language, context and logic just like you learned beginning at home and at elementary school WHEN YOU WERE A CHILD: biblestudymanuals.net/properb.htm

This is not rocket science but it does take time and diligence and self-sacrificial honesty - putting the welfare of others above your own gain: Here is the link: biblestudymanuals.net/properb.htm. My seminary professor told me over and over again: The most important thing to keep in mind when you are interpreting the Bible: Context, context, context - who, what, why, when, to whom, how.

[JP]

It is without doubt, as Apostle Paul proclaimed, “the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes…For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, ‘The just shall live by faith’” (Rom. 1:16–17). The gospel is not about our self-righteousness but the righteousness of God given as a gift to those who put their faith in our Lord Jesus.

[BSM]

There is no passage which stipulates that believers while they are in their mortal bodies have the life experience of having the Righteousness of Jesus Christ. Being declared to have the Righteousness of God credited to ones account does not signify that one acts with the Righteousness of God in ones experience in ones temporal life. The declaration that one has been credited with the Righteousness of God is a positional truth not an actual experiential reality / position. It is God's promise to the believer to receive a Perfect Resurrection body that will in the future, in ones experience, be as Righteous as Christ's Resurrection body, after one's mortal life is over and he receives his perfect resurrection body - which body will have an experiential life that is Righteous as the Righteousness of God  is and be rewarded depending upon ones faithfulness in their temporal lives via diligent study of God's Word, following the leading of the Holy Spirit within and the grace of God Who forgives temporal sin confession and purifies one of all temporal unrighteousness.

The passage that you have quoted from which is Ro 1:16-17 you have quoted from a version that does not accurately translate the passage and thereby you have misinterpreted it. It does not indicate that believers in their mortal lives will conduct themselves in a Righteous manner, (1 Jn 1:8 and 10 say so).

****** EXCERPT FROM ROMANS CHAPTER ONE ******

B) THE ONE WHO IS RIGHTEOUS BY FAITH IS THE ONE WHO WILL HAVE ETERNAL LIFE AND WILL LIVE OUT HIS TEMPORAL LIFE IN A RIGHTEOUS MANNER AS HE LIVES BY THAT SAME FAITH

(v. 16) "For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile.


(v. 17 YLT) For the righteousness of God in it is revealed from faith to faith, according as it [has] been written, 'And the righteous one by faith shall live,' " =

1) [Compare Hab 2:4]:
(Hab 2:4 NASB) "Behold, as for the proud one, (v. 6), His soul is not right within him; [Hebrew and Septuagint Greek word order]: But a righteous man by his faith will live."

The proud one [the one who is self-righteous, the Babylonian, (vv. 6-20)] his soul within him is not right - not righteous - with God. But the righteous soul - the one declared righteous before God through faith in God will live out his temporal life, the years appointed to him and forever in eternity, not so the self-righteous one.

This verse is best rendered from the word order of the Hebrew text wherein a man is not righteous before the exercise of his faith, he becomes righteous by the exercise of his faith in God's promise of eternal life through a coming Messiah / Savior by which faith he will live in the sense of have eternal life; and he will live out his temporal life in a righteous manner as he lives it by that same faith.

And by quoting the Old Testament in Ro 1:17, Paul showed that even during the dispensation of Law, legal obedience was not the basis for a justified standing before God because, as the Prophet Habakkuk wrote, "The righteous by faith will live," (Hab 2:4).

2) [Ro 1:17b Greek Interlinear]:

"Ho dE ...dikaios .............Ek pistEOs zesEtai"

"The but righteous [one] .by faith .....will live"
Note that most versions have "the righteous [one] / the just shall live by faith" [NASB, NKJV, HCSB, ASB, KJV, NIV]. Only a few like the YLT follows the correct word order:

3) [Compare Ro 1:17]:

(Ro 1:17 YLT) "For the righteousness of God in it is revealed from faith to faith, according as it [has] been written, 'And the righteous one by faith shall live,' " [Hab 2:4]

When the improper word order for Hab 2:4 / Ro 1:17 / Gal 3:11 is read as it appears in most versions, it could easily be misconstrued to mean that those that are righteous before God are those who live by being faithful to law, despite the fact that the context of the verses which precede and follow indicate that man cannot faithfully keep the Law or any law and will remain accursed if he tries to be righteous by any kind of human doing.

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