Enoch 1:9 says this:
And behold! He cometh with ten thousands of holy ones to execute
judgement upon all, and to destroy [all] the ungodly: and to convict
all flesh of all the works [of their ungodliness] which they have
ungodly committed, and of all the hard things which ungodly sinners
[have spoken] against Him.
Clearly this is very similar to Jude 1:14-15.
• Was Jude quoting The Book of Enoch?
NO! Consider what Jude
1:14-15 says in the NASB - God's Word says that there will be a
judgment executed upon all. But there is no stipulation that they will
all be destroyed at that time:
Jude 1:14-15 (NASB)
14 "It was also about these men that Enoch, in the seventh
generation from Adam, prophesied, saying, "Behold, the Lord came with
many thousands of His holy ones,
15 to execute judgment upon all, and to convict all the ungodly
of all their ungodly deeds which they have done in an ungodly way, and
of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him."
• If so, does this mean the Book of Enoch should be considered Scripture?
• Were The Book of Enoch and Jude both quoting from an earlier text (i.e. the actual account of Enoch)?
• Was the author of The Book of Enoch actually quoting from Jude to make their book look more credible?
What we don't know is when The Book of Enoch was written, who the
author was, or what Jude was quoting. :)
The best one can tell, the
Biblical figure Enoch was not the author, but rather, someone who lived
closer to the time of Christ, or possibly even after, based on some of
the references. There are many arguments on all sides of this debate,
but the real question in the back of many Christian minds is:
Is it Scripture?
Is this the Holy-Spirit inspired word of God? This is where we can
pretty confidently say "no". If it were Scripture, we would expect it
to be free of false doctrine. What we find instead is that false
doctrine is one of the most prevalent themes in the book!
Taking a cursory look at the text up through Chapter 59, are found the
following false doctrines.
• 1:1 Implies restoration during tribulation - not congruent with scriptures.
• 1:8 In conflict with the doctrine that peace was
made at the cross. Also, in the last days tribulation will increase for
the righteous - this "verse" seems to dispute that.
• 2:2-3 Appears to contradict 2 Pet 3:3-7
• 5:4 Is an admonition to some unknown party - this
is very irregular relative to the scriptures (i.e. authentic ancient
writings by God-fearing Jews)
• 6:3 Semjaza seems to be listed as the leader of the angels, which is not scriptural
• 6:3,8 None of these angels are mentioned in the Bible
• 8:1 Azazel isn't even listed in 6:8 as one of the angels that fornicated with women
• 8:3 Araqiel and Shamsiel aren't listed in 6:8 either
• 10:2 Enoch allegedly wrote about Noah, even though
the Bible teaches that Enoch was taken up to heaven years before Noah
was born.
******[Note that the correct translation of 2 Kgs 2:11 of the Masoretic text - the Septuagint - has in 4 Kgs 2:11, "And it came to pass as they were going, they went on talking; and, behold, a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and it separated between them both; and Eliu was taken up in a whirlwind as it were into heaven," in the sense of it appeared to be headed into the heavens. For according to Jn 3:13 "No one has ascended into heaven, but He Who descended from heaven: the Son of Man."]
• 10:4-6,12 Implies angels can be bound & hid in holes under rocks. This is contrary to scripture.
• 10:8 Ascribes all the sin of the fallen angels to one named Azazel - not scriptural.
• 10:15-11:2 Seems to imply that permanent
restoration took place after the flood - clearly not true. It seems the
true author of this book confused scriptures pertaining to the future
restoration.
• 13:5-6,14:4-5,7 Implies fallen angels can't talk to
God - this contradicts Job. Also implies that angels were repentant,
but weren't received back by God - very strange doctrine.
• 14 Gives a very strange description of Heaven that conflicts with many scriptures
• 15:8-10 Very strange doctrine about "evil spirits" proceeding from unredeemable giants
• 17-18,21,23 Gives a very strange description of the
earth & universe which is clearly not true. Also alludes to the
ancient model of astronomy that held that there were 7 stars (the
closest planets) which burned like the sun (they don't.)
• 19:3 Discredits all other prophecy about the consumation of the ages.
• 20 Lists strange angels not in scripture, and
incorrectly assigns the roles of Michael (the warrior) and Gabriel (the
messenger)
• 21:7-10 Seems to contradict Biblical descriptions
of the present & final judgement places for the fallen angels
• 22 Contradicts the Biblical descriptions of past,
present & future dwelling places for the righteous who die
• 32:2-6 Seems to imply the Garden of Eden was still in existance after the Flood
• 33:1-2 Says Heaven rests on a foundation that is at the Eastern edge of the earth
• 33:3 He claims he counted the stars &
individually mapped them, which is impossible scripturally (&
scientifically)
• 34 Says the winds come out of a "portal" at the Northern edge of the earth
• 36:3 Says the stars come out of portals at the Eastern edge of the earth & move West
• 38:5-6 Contradicts Daniel & other prophecies about the Mellennial Reign
• 39:1-2 Very strange implications here about the
"seed" of angels dwelling with men at the end... this contradicts the
scriptures
• 40:7 Talks about the "Satans" - plural, different
than the Bible, who gives that name to only one fallen angel. Also,
implies Satan can't stand in God's presence, contrary to Job.
• 40:9 Once again mixes up the roles of the 2
Archangels & adds more names in. Michael's role in scripture is
related to conquering nations & fighting spiritual wars, while
Gabriel's relates to bringing messages & visions to people.
• 41:1-2 Says the Kingdom of God is divided - it's
not & can't be scripturally. Also describes sinners being repelled
from a mansion, which is also not scriptural, unless you look at a
parable Jesus told, which was not intended to be literal.
• 41:4-5 Says the sun, moon, winds, etc. are stored in chambers & released at appointed times.
• 41:6-7 Implies the sun & moon move opposite of each other
• 43:1-3,44 Very weird model of the nature of stars & lightning
• 47:4 Says God requires the blood of the saints... very strange
• 51:1 Says Sheol & Hell will give back to the
earth, which isn't scriptural - also Hell is a NT term, not OT
• 51:2 Disputes the Biblical doctrine that we are
chosen. (We don't have to wait until Christ's return to be chosen.)
This isn't scriptural.
• General: Seems to imply Enoch came back down to
earth after being taken up to Heaven, which is not scriptural.
[Note that the correct translation of 2 Kgs 2:11 of the Masoretic text - the Septuagint - has in 4 Kgs 2:11, "And it came to pass as they were going, they went on talking; and, behold, a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and it separated between them both; and Eliu was taken up in a whirlwind as it were into heaven," in the sense of it appeared to be headed into the heavens. For according to Jn 3:13 "No one has ascended into heaven, but He Who descended from heaven: the Son of Man."]
notes from www.refuteit.com/the-book-of-enoch-debunked.html below
Jude never said he was quoting from the book of Enoch.
Jude: to convince all that are ungodly.
Enoch: to destroy all that are ungodly.
Jn 16:8: to convict the world about sin - nothing mentioned about
destroying all the ungodly, especially since all men but Christ are
ungodly.
Ac 17:8; Titus 1:12: Paul quotes from pagan sources in order to
convince pagans of the gospel. But that does not make these sources
Scripture.
Enoch 5:6 - in end times - those living in Tribulation times: sinners find no mercy, no salvation
Rev 14:6: I saw an angel flying in mid heaven, having an eternal Gospel to proclaim...
cp 2 Pet 3:9, Rev 7:14; 9:20, 16:9; 20:4
Enoch 7:2 450 foot giants and 4,500 foot giants
Dt 3:11 Kg Og largest 9 cubits ~13 feet
Enoch 10:8 - sin entered the world through a fallen angel named Azazel.
Ro 5:12 - sin entered the world through one man [Adam]
Enoch 10:20-21 - Michael the Archangel was to cleanse the world from sin - before the flood.
Gen 6:5 states that men even after the flood were sinful. So there was no cleansing of sin by the angels.
Dan 9:24 - Yeshua would put an end to sin
Acts 4:12; 1 Tim 2:5; Col 1:19-22 - salvation only through Christ
Enoch 19:2 - women will become mythical like creatures
The siren was a pagan, mythical creature that took for the form
of a half woman and half bird that lured sailors into danger with their
singing. It was believed that they were cannibals.
The Bible has no such passage. Species do not evolve into other species, they create after their own kind.
Enoch 39:1 - people will descend from heaven and their children will become one with the children of men.
This passage implies that the elect and holy children will come down
from heaven in the last days with their 'seed' (children) and the
children will become one with the children of men.
The Bible does not support this.
Enoch 41:1 - the kingdom of God is divided.
Mt 12:25 - If a kingdom is divided it cannot stand.
Dan 2:44 - God's Kingdom will never be destroyed.
Enoch 41:2 - Sinners will be evicted from the Mansions in Heaven.
Jn 14:2 - the mansions were built in heaven for the saved, not sinners
Enoch 46:1-3; 48:1-3, 6 - Jesus the Son of Man was created, therefore not God
Enoch 71:14 - Noah was taken up to heaven like his grandfather (Enoch)
"he translated my spirit into the heaven of heavens" (71:5) and Noah
said he saw the "Son of Man." Noah supposedly writes, "This is the Son
of Man who is born unto righteousness of the Head of Days forsakes him
not." - again it claims Jesus was born (created) in heaven before he
came to earth in the form of a man. Not scriptural.
[According to Jn 3:13 "No one has ascended into heaven, but
He Who descended from heaven: the Son of Man."]
The Book of Enoch claims Noah was translated to heaven prior to the
flood and this "Son of Man" figure was already born and seated on a
throne. The Son of Man also participated in the judgment of the flood as
seen in Enoch 69:26-28. Strangely, the Book of Enoch also calls Noah
the "son of man" in Enoch 60:10. However, all of this is contradictory
to the scriptural account.
[Note that the correct translation of 2 Kgs 2:11 of the Masoretic text - the Septuagint - has in 4 Kgs 2:11, "And it came to pass as they were going, they went on talking; and, behold, a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and it separated between them both; and Eliu was taken up in a whirlwind as it were into heaven," in the sense of it appeared to be headed into the heavens. For according to Jn 3:13 "No one has ascended into heaven, but He Who descended from heaven: the Son of Man."]
The wording in the above posted portions gives the impression that
Jesus is nothing more than a man who was selected before the earth was
created -
This is all incorrect. Jesus is God and not a creature of God.
The bible clearly teaches that Jesus was not just a man, nor was He an angel, and He was not a special creation. Jesus always existed with the Father, because Jesus, with the Father, and the Holy Spirit are God.
[Compare John 1:1-3]:
(Jn 1:1 NASB) "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
(Jn 1:2 NASB) He was in the beginning with God.
(Jn 1:3 NASB) All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being."
[Compare Titus 2:13-14]:
(Titus 2:13 NASB) "looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus,
(Titus 2:14 NASB) Who
gave Himself for us to redeem us from every lawless deed, and to purify
for Himself a people for His own possession, zealous for good deeds."
Enoch 47:4 - God requires righteous blood offerings.
God requires the shedding of human blood for a sacrifice. So Christ's blood was insufficient.
Heb 10:10, 12, 14, 26 - Christ's offering is final, no other is required.
[Compare 1 Peter 3:18 (NASB)
(1 Pet 3:18 NASB) "For Christ also died for sins once for all, the just
for the unjust, so that He might bring us to God, having been put to
death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit;"